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The Crowbar In the Window

One of the quirks of the offseason is that everything is put into question...and yet nothing changes.

Every offseason the same questions get asked.  What's happening with the prospects?  How's payroll?  Who's going to be playing [enter position here] on opening day?  Who's on the market?  Are we trading for this year or for future seasons?

The reason we're all so interested in the offseason is because the answers are never the same.

One answer in particular should be a point of interest for Twins fans over the coming weeks.  For years it's been no secret that Terry Ryan covets his prospects.  It's how we built a team to win three consecutive division titles.  It's how we had a plethora of minor league pitchers in 2005 that, combined, may have been as competetive as certain MLB rotations.  It was our return on Dougie Baseball, Knobby and A.J.

If there's an issue with hoarding prospects, it's that at some point they need to bring about fruition in the form of not just a competetive ballclub but one that can reach the playoffs.  Tampa Bay has a number of young players who, as of 2005, haven't been able to reach the next level.  Why they haven't improved can be attributed to any number of things:  coaching, leadership, weak links, Boston and New York.  The question that arrises is this:  when do prospects stop showing potential for winning and start showing stagnation and an inability of a franchise to make major decisions?  If you pull the trigger too soon you don't get full return on your prospects, don't know how your prospects could have helped your club, and with a team like the Twins you may lose a window of opportunity.  If you pull the trigger too late you still don't get full return on your prospects...or even worse, get stuck with backloads of blocked players whose progress is impeded by lack of growth.  But, if you pull the trigger at the right time, you have the potential to not only maximize the return on your players, to not only see hand-picked prospects blossom in your own system...you also can throw a crowbar into that window of opportunity.  A window of two years could become five.

In the late 90's and early 00's, Terry Ryan made a series of right decisions and gave the Twins an extended timetable with which to make postseason runs.  From 2001 until midway through 2005, the Twins were competetive.  For five consecutive seasons, Minnesota has been a good club.

Now, Minnesota is in a precarious situation.  In the offseason preceeding 2006, there are large decisions to be made; many of which could fortell how good the Twins will become over the next three or four years.  If moves aren't made to improve the offense, to move certain prospects that can't help us out by remaining in the minors, our window of opportunity will continue to close.

It's all a cycle; it's all a balancing act.  Terry Ryan has been on a unicycle on a highwire, juggling feathers and swallowing flame-covered swords.  How he responds over the coming weeks will give us a clue to our future.  Whatever happens, I guarantee you I'm along for the ride.

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Tampa Bay has a number of young players who, as of 2005, haven't been able to reach the next level.  Why they haven't improved can be attributed to any number of things:  coaching, leadership, weak links, Boston and New York.

Which Devil Rays prospects are you referring to?

by Sulla on Nov 22, 2005 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

TB Prospects
Right now?  Scott Kazmir, Aubrey Huff (getting a bit older) Jorge Cantu, Rocco Baldelli, Carl Crawford, Joey Gathright, Jonny Gomes, B.J. Upton and Delmon Young.  They have a few young pitchers with potential, but besides Kazmir I can't pinpoint one of them that  shows the promise that many from the Twins' system have shown.  Perhaps a weaker pitching farm system is the reason for stagnation?  Who knows, but with all the young players with offensive potential I'd hope they'd be better.

by Jesse on Nov 23, 2005 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen
That was downright poetic.

by kbj on Nov 22, 2005 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Tampa Bay prospect
Reached the next level?  All those you mentioned have prospered at the major league level or are on the verge of getting there (Gaithright, Young, Upton).  They are young with no pitching (save Kazmir), and that's why they haven't won.

But the TB system has produced big time.  And I'm betting on Delmon and BJ (as a hitter).  You should have stayed focused on pitching.  Even Kazmir is not from their system.  Scouting, development, and having the top picks to take the #1 bats in the draft are probably the culprits...but not pertaining to position players...they've had an incredible run.

Sometime your low self-esteem is just good common sense.

by statman on Nov 23, 2005 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Production
Production without a winning team means nothing, which was the point I was trying to make.  You can have a lineup of young players who can all put up great numbers, but somewhere along the line, if you're not winning, you're not doing something right.  For the Twins to continue doing what they've done right for the last five years moves need to be made, because having a stellar pitching staff alone will get you nowhere.  Tampa has a great lineup...and they aren't going anywhere.

by Jesse on Nov 23, 2005 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

They did win
The young guys took off in the second half and the Devil Rays went 39-34. Pretty promising, if you ask me.

by Sulla on Nov 23, 2005 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: They Did Win
Yes, 39-34 is promising, but not the point.  There's a distinct difference between promising and actually winning.  Considering how awful they were before the last 73 of the year, 5 games above .500 is an accomplishment...but no more an accomplishment than the Twins limping in +500 this season.

Tampa is promising.  So are the Twins.  But if either team wants to be successful, "promising" isn't good enough, know what I mean?  Mauer and (still) Morneau are promising, but they aren't an offense if they're on their own.  Do we stand pat with our offense because some of the young guys are "promising"?  If Tampa doesn't make moves to improve their pitching staff, how likely are they to finish with significant improvement over 2005?

by Jesse on Nov 24, 2005 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

Mauer promising?
Mauer was awesome.  Awesome, awesome, awesome.  There's no point in saying he his promising anymore.  He's the real deal, and he's shown it.  He was the most valuable position player for the Twins last year by a mile.  He was (at least) the third best catcher in MLB last year, and he was all of 22 years old.  If you want to find reasons the Twins didn't win the division last year, go right ahead, but Joe Mauer was not one of those reasons.

by ubelmann on Nov 25, 2005 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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