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Well, That's $4.35MM We Can't Get Back...

Twins exercise 2007 option on right-handed sinker-baller.

On the surface this looks like a bit of a questionable decision.  In spite of the fact that Brad Radke will probably retire, the thought of spending $4,350,000 on what appears to be barely a back-end-of-the-rotation kind of guy is a bit sketchy at best.  After all, with talents like Matt Garza, Boof Bonser and Scott Baker on the threshold, why overpay for a guy whose numbers could probably be duplicated by any of the Twins' 76 pitching prospects?

Dig a little deeper however, and it doesn't look like such a bad deal.  In addition to the loss of longtime rotation mainstay Radke, Francisco Liriano is going to need some pretty hefty layoff time.  This would leave your starting rotation with one pitcher with any sort of experience, Johan Santana, and the three guys I mentioned earlier:  Garza, Bonser and Baker.  Between them they had enough innings in 2006 to match Santana's innings exactly.  A starting rotation short on experience, no matter how much talent, is a huge question mark.

Passing on Silva's option, then, would have tied Minnesota's hands as to where their free agent money would need to be spent.  They would need to find a veteran starter.  Being that starting pitching, as always, will be a premium in the offseason, and with agents knowing what situation the Twins would be in, you know they'd be asking us to break the bank on what would probably be a mid-level talent.  While Jason Schmidt, Greg Maddux or Barry Zito wouldn't look too shabby donning Minnesota jerseys, it's just not in the cards.

What likely has happened is that the Twins have overpaid for Carlos Silva, to the tune of $4MM, instead of overpaying for the likes of Woody Williams, to the tune of $6MM.

Of course, this is all merely conjecture.  I've been wrong once before.

Year     IP  GS   ERA  WHIP   K/9   G:A   OPS
2002   84.0   0  3.21  1.31  4.93  2.81  .726
2003   87.1   1  4.43  1.48  4.95  1.83  .779
2004  203.0  33  4.21  1.43  3.37  1.58  .801
2005  188.1  27  3.44  1.17  3.39  1.55  .740
2006  180.1  31  5.94  1.54  3.49  1.29  .889

If something happens over the winter that helps Silva regain his once commanding sinker, if he puts up 2005 type numbers his option is going to look like a steal.  Playing the odds, even if it means saving money against a free agent starter, well...sometimes you have to bite the bullet.

Should Silva faulter, the Twins will have in-house options available in addition to the low-end veteran starting pitcher they'll probably acquire.  After Johan, there's Garza, Bonser, Baker, Perkins, Slowey and even Guerrier.  Those seven, plus Silva and the TBA FA SP (figure that one out!), will give the Twins at least nine men to compete for the five rotation slots.

Of the major areas in need of attention for the Twins in winter, we were given a direct view of our team's direction for one of them on Tuesday.  Picking up Silva's option speaks volumes about our expectations for not just Silva, but for the free agent market and our ability to reel in talent at a reasonable price.

We still have a fistful of dollars to spend this offseason.  It will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens next.

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The price may seem a little high.

And I see a replay of the Lohse situation. Sign him or let him walk. Sign him as insurance in case the rookies can't take the ball immediately and run with it.

Sign him becuase the free-agent market is soooo light.

You have to hope there are a couple of other "veteran" options out there...maybe on par of Rick Helling or slightly better, who would accept an invite to camp. That's the Twins cheap side of things.

You have to hope that someone will shine from the Garza, Baker, Boof, Perkins quartet, All four could/should become a part of the team sometime next season.

And there are a couple of arms, health permiting, that will get the call befroe the end of '07 -- Slowey for one.

The question is: if Silva has a great spring, as well as the rookies, do you cut him loose, or really play the Lohse ticket again.

If a guy is healthy, can throw the ball with some decency (when Silva is good, he's adequate...when he's bad, he's very)...arms can be moved...or used.

by twintown on Nov 1, 2006 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

More
There is a relativly large amount of pressure ow on Matt Garza to step up and meet the Verlander comparisons now that Liriano is down.

GODDAMN WHY IS LIRIANO DOWN?

It would make me feel horrible about next year, but then the Cardinals won the series, so...

"Baseball is great because you can't take a knee or kill the clock. You have to put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn chance." C Stengel

by AdamOnFirst on Nov 1, 2006 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i know
having the kid down is just the worst case of all.  the pressure on Garza and boof is a lot.  I have more confidence, gut feel no science involved, that boof is mentally tuff.  that's just me cuz i don't know other than from watching his demenor on the mound.  gaps in his game yea but he's got the focus and i think he is teachable to work ou t the gaps.  i'm 99% sure Brad will call it quites so finding a seasoned arm maybe the key.  hey look at Rogers, what a find and TR didn't want him anymore.
"hi everybody" Herb Carneal Hall of fame baseball announcer.

by firstatbat61 on Nov 1, 2006 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

2007 season
I would like to see the Twins go after a veteran starter to further make the rotation better. If they could find someone like they did when they signed Kenny Rogers a few years ago for a bargain price, that would be worth the risk. However, guys like Garza and Boof (Boooof!!) now have had some post-season experience even though it was only 3 games.

Fellow Twins fans, this is a crucial off-season. This team is only a player or two from contending for the World Series.

by twinsfan4ever on Nov 1, 2006 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

A player or two ....
I'd like to think that's the case.  After all, we won 96 games & the division in 2005 with a boatload of injuries and 40% of the rotation down for the last couple months or so.

But then came the playoffs.  We never once challenged Oakland.

I know it's a completely different ballgame, but ...

a guy I know says he's not interested in a high schooler's batting average - too many lousy pitchers to feast on.  

What he wants to know is "How'd he do against the best pitchers?"

I wish we had more firepower to deal with those guys.

by BD57 on Nov 2, 2006 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Not absolute
Billy Beane would have passed on Joe Mauer, Miguel Cabrera, Justin Morneau, and a host of guys drafted out of high school or signed out of the Latin American academies simply because they didn't face college pitchers. If a guy has that kind of talent, you don't make his lack of college experience the difference maker. If you do, you end up drafting a lot of mediocre college guys like Jeremy Brown just because they hit on a bigger stage. And college guys can develop bad habits that are hard to break. David McCarty, for example, never made an impact even though he was a "can't miss" prospect. He never made the adjustment to the high tight fastball with a wood bat. Adam Johnson never leanrd to keep the ball down consistently. If you look at the Twins system, most of the top 20 prospects were either drafted out of high school or signed out of Latin America as 16 year olds. I'm glad they get a lot of high schoolers, myself, rather than unnecessarily limiting the talent pool.
Joe Mauer for MVP.

by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2006 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Highschololers
Highschoolers are definitely a higher risk, higher reward type thhing, which becomes neccesary when your entire roster has to be hoem grown, you need stars somewhere.  More sure-thing but average layes are smarter for teams that can bring in a few stars.
"Baseball is great because you can't take a knee or kill the clock. You have to put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn chance." C Stengel

by AdamOnFirst on Nov 4, 2006 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

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