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Taking a break from the Twins, I thought I'd articulate an idea I've been running around in my head for the last year or so.

Jackie Robinson, we all know that name -- the man who broke the color line in baseball, the man whose number was universaly retired, venerated even now and of course a damn good player. Baseball is my favorite sport, only soccer has the kind of international appeal that baseball has, and especially with the birth of the WBC (which I fully support) it's become a truly international game.

The barriers beside  talent and poor management skills are falling. There are increasing numbers of players coming over from Japan and Korea, from Europe and it's expanding in Central Asia as well hopefully displacing Crickett (boring to watch, and astonishingly, even MORE boring to play, sorry Crickett fans.)

The Women's College World Series just finished up in Oklahoma as well, Arizona swept Northwestern and the ladies took home another title putting them that much closer to UCLA's record of softball titles. I must confess, I was rooting for Northwestern because it was their first time.

So can you guess where I'm going now? Maybe. There is one line that baseball has yet to cross and if it did, it would be a blockbuster. That's right, the gender line. I still can't figure out how to make the extended entry work, but here goes.

Star-divide

Remember a cool baseball story from last year? A little league pitcher pitches a perfect game, with 18 strikeouts! The story garnered extra attention because the pitcher was a girl. Even if she wasn't a fluke, when she gets to highschool the coaches will politely ask her to play softball. While there are girls who play on highschool teams, it's still not common and nearly unheard of in college.

Why? I think it's because by the time of college (and maybe highschool) most girls are used to the softball system. I imagine it would be as difficult for a person to switch from softball to baseball as it would be the otherway around. It could eventually be done  but not without a lot of work. Of course there's also an argument that highschool boys would sexually harass any girl on their team or that it would break team unity, but I for one, would not have been threatned if girls had been added to my highschool sports teams so its difficult for me to understand that particular objection.

One of the (few) things I liked about Moneyball, was that the use of the SABR system was a new way to evaluate players and find value in some players the traditional system overlooked.

This could be an untapped reservoir of talent, and I for one, wonder if MLB teams could exploit it. If some organization, either one that needed to generate publicity (say, like Tampa Bay) or one with budget constraints (hint hint, Twins!) quietly began to construct a system to draft females along with males...

Of course, you'd need a solid baseball programs at the highschool level (at the least) to be able to find women with the talent to be selected to minor league teams, but as something that might pay dividends it's something that I would rally behind and there IS the American Women's Baseball Federation and the Women's International Baseball Association. In recent years these organizations have been actively increasing the numbers of female ball players. Perhaps some offers could be made to some of the better players there to place them in minor league systems.

I understand that this would be a huge opening to criticism. "Why are you wasting team resources buiilding a farm system for girls? What if you can't sign some great start because you spent all this money on that? What can you hope to accomplish?"

Due to physical differences I don't think women will approach parity to men in baseball, but I don't see why a solid minority couldn't hold their own with occasional stars. I guess in the end, I'm aruging for "let 'em play and see what happens!"

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Fantastic idea for a post
I've often thought about the issues of sports being gender-exclusive, and while I don't see it as a critical issue in the grand scheme of equal rights, I'd like to see freedom given for people to try out for a sport regardless of gender.  If you're good enough to make it, then you're good enough to make it, regardless if you're wearing a bra or a nut cup.  I'd like to have seen Swoops make her mark in the NBA, just as I look forward to Wie making her mark in golf in three to five years.

by Jesse on Jun 7, 2006 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Volleyball
Still one fo the best women's sports this side of gymnastics.

Women have a baseball sport...softball.

And I think msot wear a cup...of sorts.

by twintown on Jun 7, 2006 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cricket
Dude, where did you get the extra t from? It's cricket, it's a sport, it's not named after a character in a walt disney movie, as this fine sport greatly predates even Walt Disney, the Nazi-sympathizer and anti-semite, himself. And you may think it is boring, many do, but that is mostly because people do not fully understand and appreciate it's subtleties and nuances.  Much as many find baseball boring for the same reason.  So lay off cricket - this is the second time I have had to defend this fine sport of gentleman in this forum, I never expected that!

On to substance.  Personally, I just do not understand why girls/women have to play softball instead of baseball.  This seems ridiculous to me.  These softball players would clearly be great baseball players - why are there no girls/womens baseball leagues in high school and college.  Why make them throw underarm with a bigger ball? It's insulting, I think. Let them play baseball.

If I had a daughter, I would hope she would want to play baseball as a kid with the boys, and once the physical ability gap began to grow between the girls and boys, I would hope she would have the opportunity to continue to play on girls teams and in girls leagues.  Why is this not the case? I find this absurd.

These largely incoherent thoughts were hurriedly scribbled down

by Victor on Jun 8, 2006 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

insulted?
Fast pitch softball is just as competitive, intricate and complicated as baseball, with some key fundamental differences.  It is a game of strategy and errors.  One passed ball / throwing error can make or break a game.  It's a game that requires good management to be successful - not unlike baseball - but to suggest that it is somehow sexist "make girls throw underhand" misses the point of the difference of the game.  The underhand motion of the pitch allows for a real rising fast ball - something that cannot exist in baseball.  The motion of the pitcher also allows screw balls to be pitched with less effect on the pitcher's arm allowing them to pitch consecutive complete games.  

To assert that theses athletes would make excellent baseball players denies them their due credit for being athletes with a different set of skills.

The problem more over lies in our societal standard that boys must play certain sports and girls others (ie. volleyball and football, or softball and baseball...).  While these barriers are beginning to fall (see the emergence of college and high school womens hockey teams etc) it may be a while until the gender gap is broken at the major league level in sports like baseball football and hockey.  Every transition like this takes time, energy, and the determination of one player to break those barriers and to be successful at that sports highest level.

this was not funny

by JS22 on Jun 8, 2006 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
I believe that in many ways fastpitch softball is superior to baseball, especially with the speed of the game.  Gai Ingham Berlage wrote about how women were gradually shut out of baseball in "Women in baseball: the forgotten history," which is an unfrotunate story, but she ends the book by ripping fastpitch, thereby ignoring how women have carved a space out for themselves through a game that has become extremely popular.
   

by wcooley on Jun 8, 2006 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fastpitch
...as I mentioned, I watch the women's college world series. I enjoy watching fastpitch softball, and you'll notice I didn't disparage it in my original post. Neither sport is better than the other, but not only do I prefer baseball, but compensation is much better in baseball, compared to any kind of professional softball leagues.

I think baseball is as near perfection as anything else, and the addition of women who can play at that level would crystalize its place that way.

by MNPundit on Jun 8, 2006 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cricket
There are numerous things that conspire to make cricket a unique sport -- the bizarre length of the matches rsulting in the intervals for lunch/tea, the running back and forth along the pitch right next to the opposing bowler... Also I saw a report on ESPN that players are occasionally driven to suicide once they retire from cricket.

So, having actually played it, and considering all those things, I don't like it very much.

by MNPundit on Jun 8, 2006 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't happen
There are two reasons for the lack of women in higher levels, and I believe you touched on both.

1>  Sports culture isn't permissive of girls in sports after a point.

2>  Testosterone.

I can personally attest to the testosteone.  I have played baseball and football with several girls who were amoung the dominant players in the league at a time.  In baseball, jessica was ne of the leagues most fered pitchers in middle school.  But by about 8th grade, the other pitchers had all caught up to her fastball velocity and her dominance had waned.  Kirstan was one of the hardest hitting linebackers in the league in every per-high school league and was one fo the best players.  By 9th grade football, she was on the B team and she quit after a short stint in 10th grade.  She just wasn't strong enough any more after being outpaced by the tesosterne induced male strength.

Both went on to have successful "careers" in other sports like basettball and soccer, but neither could play with the boys after a point.

On ths note, the way Michelle Wie is treated annoys the hell out of me.  There is anothe grld who is even younger is at least as good on the LPGA.  Even more importantly, she has done nothing thusfar to deserve the attention she is getting.  Any 16 yearold can try and qualify for the US open.  I'll be impressed if she ever does.  And before I ever have to listen to anyone compare her to Tiger Woods again, I better at least see a women golfer make the cut in a main PGA Tour event. and have Wie appear near the leaderboard in something.

by AdamOnFirst on Jun 9, 2006 4:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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