Twins Community Prospect # 7
Matt Moses is your #6 prospect. There are some More changes on the List. Thanks to everyone who voted last time. Here's the List So Far.
1. Matt Garza
2. Kevin Slowey
3. Alexi Casilla
4. Anthony Swarzak
5. Glen Perkins
6. Matt Moses
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Span? Are you kidding me?
by captnhawaii on Jul 28, 2006 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Roberts over Span...
by djskilbr on Jul 28, 2006 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
me too..
by captnhawaii on Jul 28, 2006 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds kind of irrational...
Roberts is hitting .298/.351/.363 this year in Hi A ball, at the age of 21, with 57 strikeouts against 25 walks in 383 AB.
Span hit .339/.410/.403 last year in Hi A ball, at the age of 21, with 25 strikeouts against 22 walks in 186 AB.
So Roberts is striking out at a higher rate (albeit just slightly) and Span walked a lot more. And from what I understand, the scouts value Span's tools more.
I mean, I guess maybe I could see taking Roberts over Span just because he doesn't have Span's AA setback on his record, but it's certainly not a clear-cut decision--the stats don't especially favor Roberts and neither do the scouting reports.
Roberts could just as easily fall on his face in AA like Span has, and maybe do worse.
by ubelmann on Jul 28, 2006 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roberts last two weeks
ANyway, the limitations of season average numbers, especially in the minor leagues, is they don't take into account trends.
by cmathewson on Jul 28, 2006 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
Personally, I would say that is sometimes an advantage. People can get pretty worked up sometimes about a hot week here or there when sometimes it really is just a hot streak or a cold streak and really not very meaningful. I mean, remember all of the hand-wringing about how Cuddyer was never going to pan out, since he always struggled in April? And about how David Ortiz probably wouldn't be all that good because he was so inconsistent from month-to-month?
Roberts has been striking out a little less with the Twins than with the Reds, but it's been a very small decrease, and is still striking out twice as often as he walks, even on this hot streak. At any rate, there's nothing in his Twins stat line that is different enough from his Reds stat line to convince me he's turned any sort of corner. Maybe he has, but it hasn't shown up in his underlying performance indicators so far.
Now, if you can give me reliable scouting info that says Roberts is a much better defender than Span, then I'm willing to listen. I've never been sold on Span as a good CF since the only thing you ever hear about him is he's fast, which is far from the only thing required to play CF well (as you've mentioned before).
But right now, it doesn't look to me like Roberts is clearly better. Maybe somewhat better, but clearly better is a stretch.
by ubelmann on Jul 28, 2006 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sort of agree..
I think Roberts has a more consistent track record (OPS greater than 800 in all but the first half of this year) and should get bonus points for being able to turn his speed in stolen bases-something Span has yet to do with any real regularity.
With regards to turning the corner, Roberts' month of July saw him hit 24 ground balls and 22 line drives compared to 22 ground balls and ZERO line drives in June. (For comparison, Span has hit 207 ground balls and just 30 line drives on the year.) So it would seem he is driving the ball better. Obviously 1 good month doesn't make a prospect, but it is encouraging to see that performance out of someone we got for Juan Castro.
by captnhawaii on Jul 28, 2006 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robbins, Valencia, Parmelee, Benson
As for pitchers, I'd say Morlan is the next. But I wouldn't discount Duensing, Waldrop, Rainville, Durbin, Bonsor, Kemp, Mullins, Burnett, Smit, Fox, Sosa, Pino, Mijeras, Powers, and Leatherman, in that order.
by cmathewson on Jul 28, 2006 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rainville
Also I will Be working out of town next week and not have Access to the internet If someone wants to Take over for me on Monday they can. Other wise i will start posting again when I get back probally Next Sunday or Saturday night.
by FrozenTed9 on Jul 28, 2006 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been
Like I said, i think it has gotten to the point we are just voting for the guys we have heard about the most.
by AdamOnFirst on Jul 29, 2006 4:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I follow these guys
by cmathewson on Jul 29, 2006 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valencia
I'm not real high on Span right now either, but i do think he'll be fine. Roberts is riding a nice hot streak, but he did nothing for a year before that despite three years of college. Moses has been really hot of late to bring his average up to .255. Sadly, I think this is a good representation for where the Twins farm system is right now.
by SethSpeaks on Jul 29, 2006 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valencia and Robbins...
Why did Valencia slip? It's a mystery. But the rumor is that teams drafted for signability more than any draft in recent memory, and he said he would not sign for less than first- round money. I maintain he is the steal of the draft. The Twins drafted a lot of guys who other teams passed on because early indications were they would be tough to sign. And they have signed some of those guys, including Valencia, who eneded up signing for considerably less than he told clubs he would sign for.
It remains to be seen whether they can sign fifth rounder Devin Shephard, who is a first-round talent who slipped because of his schlarship to one of the Oklahoma schools. He said he won't sign for less than $1 million.
And the Twins have that in the budget yet, but are trying to sign Jeff Manship, a right handed pitcher from Notre Dame with some of that money. If they don't get that done, they could sign Shephard, which would make this the best position player draft in recent memory. If they do sign Manship (probably to a 2007 contract), they would also sign 7th rounder Jonathan Waltenbury, who has been described as another Justin Morneau, partly because he's Canadian, I suppose. I would be happpy if they signed either Shephard or Waltenbury and Manship. But we'll see.
by cmathewson on Jul 29, 2006 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
by wcooley on Jul 29, 2006 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's going to LSU
by cmathewson on Jul 29, 2006 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
by AdamOnFirst on Jul 29, 2006 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Rodney Dangerfield...
by roger on Jul 29, 2006 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trent
by FrozenTed9 on Jul 29, 2006 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
replying to your previous comment
by cortalekanak on Dec 9, 2006 7:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
replying to your previous comment
by cortalekanak on Jan 16, 2007 4:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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