Yankees Tampering?
Courtesy of LEN III at Strib online.
It's this quote from Hank Steinbrenner that is causing some within the Twins organization to become upset, not only for threatening to pull his team's offer from the table, but also for this comment:
There are two points worth discussing in that one quote. First, Steinbrenner was speaking in regards to the Twins possibly playing the Red Sox against the Yankees, in order to get themselves the best possible deal. Apparently he doesn't like competing with other teams to get what he wants; Hank wanted a bidding war of one. Second, his comment about wanting Johan is directed at the player personally, but with no clear view of what league tampering rules (and punishments) are, all that can be said is that Steinbrenner is trying to send a message to Johan: We want you.
Any insights into tampering rules and regulations are welcome.
Curt Schilling weighs in on the Sox/Yankees Santana bit.
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UPDATE: La Velle has posted that the Twins could be meeting with both Boston and Yankee officials as soon as tonight, and "more than one Twins official" has denied that New York put a deadline on whatever offer they've laid out.
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The above quoted part of his remarks
It's pretty irrelevant to me, though. Who cares about what a blowhard Hank Steinbrenner is? Smith's job is to get the best deal for the Twins--if that's the Yankees package, he should do that regardless of how much Steinbrenner blusters.
As for the threat--ack. Again, Smith has to determine how real it is, and how much of a risk it is to call them. I have no problem with the Yankees saying their offer is only available until a certain time. I have no problem with the Twins trying to wrangle the best deal. This is what happens.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 3, 2007 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A fine would be the penalty...
I think the key here is that everyone knows the Yankees are interested in Santana, so Steinbrenner's remarks don't really change anything here. So this is probably more like going 68 mph in a 65 mph zone than going 68 mph in a 20 mph school zone.
by ubelmann on Dec 3, 2007 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
by AdamOnFirst on Dec 3, 2007 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees a Go-Gone?
Of course, you hope that there are more teams that could pay Johan, even though Mr. Santana and his agent have to be salivating at the thought of maybe even a $200 million payout if they wait until free agency and Santana has a pwoerful 2008...with the Twins.
But this is so wrong in baseball. Will the same thing happen with C.C. Just because you can afford to throw away money, does it make you the ultimate home of the best players, if you so choose to pay them? What would a salary cap accomplish when stuff like this basically fills the airwaves?
On an end note, my thoughts, again, on Hughes and Melkey. Well, Melkey is a good temporary fix for 2-3 seasons until Span (unlikely), Benson or Revere come up thru the system. Maybe they might offer something better, or at least different. Hughes...look at this one plus...we didn't have to sign him after drafting him. He, unfortuantely, wants to be a Yankee and Minnesota is a step away from the Big Apple (and endorsements and the like). Will he be happy, and can he live with the mid-market world of frustrations until he truly proves his worth and success?
Arrgh to Steiney!
"I do want Santana, and the fact is that this is their best offer," Steinbrenner said. "I think it's probably the best offer they're going to get from anybody. I don't know what Boston's going to do, but that won't determine what I do."
by twintown on Dec 3, 2007 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In addition
And after the Red sox came in with the toughest offer, that was when the Yankees added Hughes. It is total garbage if they think anyone believes what they said is true.
by AdamOnFirst on Dec 3, 2007 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bargaining ploy?
by cmathewson on Dec 3, 2007 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
tampering lite, but tampering
Suppose the Twins are seriously considering raisiing their offer to resign Santana themselves. What does it do to their bargaining position to have the Yankees telling him, essentially, if he holds out a year, there's a job waiting for him in NY -- obviously at higher pay?
Steinbrenner should keep his big fat mouth shut. The Twins right now have the EXCLUSIVE right to bargain with Santana. It's tampering to tell a player on a team you want that player, because it hurts the team that has him, plain and simple. It forces them to pay more, or lowers their chance of signing him at all.
If he can't understand that, how about this scenario. What if last year, while A-Rod was weighing whether to opt out of his contract with the Yankees, the Red Sox had openly urged him to do so because there was a job waiting for him in Boston? How would Steinbrenner have liked that? He would have screamed tampering from the rooftops, and been right to do so.
In reality, it's obvious that any team would "want" Santana, and it's silly not to acknowledge that. But there has to be a clear line, and that line is you can't communicate with a player while he's on another team.
I think there should be a fine from the commissioner. A token fine is fine, but I think the league should explain the rule to Boy George and make him say he's sorry. You've got to stop bullies when they throw their weight around or they'll do it even more.
Oh, and as for not wanting to be played against each Boston? I guess Hankie doesn't get the concept of the auction: Santana is being offered to the highest bidder. That's how EVERY TRADE IN THE WORLD WORKS. Duh.
I'd hate to see Hank on ebay -- I bet if there's no "buy it now" option he gets livid and smashes his computer.
by by jiminy on Dec 3, 2007 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha
That made me spit out my coffee. Nice one, jiminy!
by natetheskate on Dec 4, 2007 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!!!
by by jiminy on Dec 4, 2007 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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