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Via twincities.com and BYTO:

Punto fits at No. 2: Ron Gardenhire believes Nick Punto is well-suited for the No. 2 spot in the Twins' batting order, .204 batting average or not.

Punto proved that Friday night, when he manufactured the winning run in the 10th inning.

"He's a good bunter, good speed - get him on base, that's a good scenario," the Minnesota manager said. "You've got doubles hitters coming up after him, and if a guy hits a double, you should score. If Punto or (Jason) Tyner is on, they will."

Gardenhire said has heard all the complaints about Punto, but "I have a lot of respect for a guy who goes through troubles like he's had offensively and still never carries it over (to defense)," he said. "It never affects him on the other side of the ball. He goes out there and plays defense, really plays it, and saves us all kinds of runs."

Gardenhire used Tyner as his leadoff hitter on Saturday because left-handers hit .328 against Texas starter Kameron Loe. And he preferred Punto over Alexi Casilla, who batted ninth, because of his experience. Besides, Punto is a .261 career hitter in the second slot, better than any other spot in the order.

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Okay, couple things here. First, apparently Gardenhire needs to start watching some Twins games like the rest of us. Everyone knows Punto hasn't been able to bunt at all this year, and Gardenhire himself said as much after that bunt third strike debacle a few days ago. But a single, error, and wild pitch later, and here we are, back to the completely irrational support of the worst regular MLB batter hitting second in the lineup. Does Gardenhire have amnesia or something?

Second, Gardy cites the fact that Punto doesn't let his terrible offense affect his defense. Well that's just super. Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with his abilities to hit at the top of a major league lineup. Psst, Ron, you can actually bat the position players in any order you want. Little Nicky's defense won't be diminished by batting him ninth. Just an FYI.

Finally, being a terrible hitter with experience does not make him a better option than a decent hitter without experience. They don't hand out extra runs at the end of the game based on how many cumulative games your lineup has played.

And, of course, I had to do a photoshop for this tremendous outburst of baseball savvy by Gardy:

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Reason #1 you don't bat a .200 hitter anywhere at the top of the order...he gets one more at-bat than guys at the bottom of an order.

Top of the order hitters, usually the first two, are palce-setters. They should make a pitcher work right out of the gate, getting the pitcher towards that 20-pitch first inning. They should be able to make contact or put the ball-in-play. Yes, doing either of those can result in an out, but they have the ability to NOT strikeout as much as the middle of the order and actually make contact more than the guys who bring up the rear.

The ability to add a base. Steal second. Go from first to third. Break up a double play. Doesn't happen, thoygh, if you get on base once a game at best.

I will give Little Nicky bonus points for his work on the field, althugh he was just too short of a shortstop the other night (Friday) in the eigth. Bartlett would have speared that ball over his head. If Ripken was out there, he would have caught it with his mouth.

But he does his turns, throws and releases quite, quite well.

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by twintown on Aug 19, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ron Gardenhire
Ron Gardenhire can go suck my F*** c*k.  Between pulling Santana in teh ninth when he still had a shot at setting the major league strikeout total and his bullshit mismanagement in game 2 of the ALDS, I'll never forgive that loser.
Baseball is great because you cant take a knee or kill the clock. You gotta put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn shot E Weaver abridged

by AdamOnFirst on Aug 19, 2007 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he or not.....
I got the impression Santana felt he was done, doffing his cap et al.

Great game to be at. Bet the '87 guys loved the noise!

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by twintown on Aug 19, 2007 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool it
112 pitches is enough. He would need another 15 pitches or so to strike out the side in the ninth, and he still would not have set a major league record, he only would have tied it. A lot of good that record did Kerry Wood. Some people think trying to get the record was the beginning of the end for him. We need Santana for the long haul. We don't need any heroics for one game and an injury.

I wasn't fond of the Nathan decision in 2003. But I don't fault him for going with Rincon in 2004. Rincon was the best set-up man in baseball that year. None of us saw that coming. I was there. 55,000 fans were as shocked as Gardenhire on that one.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Aug 20, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't
1.  OH MY GOD!  112 PITCHES!

Because Santana is ALWAYS overworked and trying for a game of immortality isn't worth the risk of going to 125 pitches.

  1.  Kerry Wood's mechanics were the end for him.  They were terrible, even in that game.  That game hurt him because no one bothered to stop him after that.
  2.  I wasn't faulting the Rincon decision.  That was fine.  I was talking about when he left Nathan in for the third inning when he was A> obviously gassed after limping out of his second inning and B> had a scorching hot Crain available who hadn't given up a run in his last 25 innings or so.  We lost that game, and pretty much the series, because Gardenhire doesn't trust young players.
Baseball is great because you cant take a knee or kill the clock. You gotta put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn shot E Weaver abridged

by AdamOnFirst on Aug 20, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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PS:  I'm worked up about the Santana thing, so don't take to much offense to anything I say, but I stand by it.
Baseball is great because you cant take a knee or kill the clock. You gotta put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn shot E Weaver abridged

by AdamOnFirst on Aug 20, 2007 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome
I love that photo.  Now we just need a "Viva la Punto!" sign.

by Jesse on Aug 20, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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