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Minnesota Twins Prospect #8 (Poll)

Anthony Swarzak takes the #7 spot in our list. I put several new players on the previous ballot and they didn't do so well, so we'll be adding several new ones again this time based on your comments. So, keep discussing your choices:

  1. Danny Valencia, 3B
  2. Ben Revere, OF
  3. Aaron Hicks, OF
  4. Angel Morales, OF
  5. Wilson Ramos, C
  6. Jose Mijares, LH RP 
  7. Anthony Swarzak, RHP

Off the ballot (for this round) - Brian Duensing, Philip Humber, Matt Macri, Chris Parmelee, Trevor Plouffe

On the ballot - Kevin Mulvey, Anthony Slama (back on), Dustin Martin, Michael McCardell, Rene Tosoni, Steve Tolleson

Again, please vote for the player that you think is the Twins top prospect among those remaining on the ballot. Poll will be up for approximately 24 hours. Please vote, but also discuss your selection and the players available.

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Again, if you have any questions or want to do some research on any of the prospects mentioned, one starting point might be http://www.sethspeaks.net/100208.htm. That is my personal Top 10 list, and it has links to all of my top 50 choices.

Poll
Who is your choice for the #8 Minnesota Twins Prospect?
Rob Delaney
16 votes
Deolis Guerra
22 votes
Luke Hughes
33 votes
Dustin Martin
1 votes
Michael McCardell
28 votes
Kevin Mulvey
24 votes
Tyler Robertson
51 votes
Anthony Slama
10 votes
Rene Tosoni
8 votes
Steve Tolleson
2 votes

195 votes | Poll has closed

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My Vote

I think it gets interesting here, so I’m going to hold off on my vote until I read some people’s comments here. I could vote for Robertson, who is still highest on my list. He’s young and talented, but the injuries are a concern. I think Mulvey is vastly underrated by us. He put together a very solid first season with Rochester for being so young. He’s got a chance. Tosoni had a great year but the unfortunate leg injury. Delaney was incredible. Slama was incredible, but stayed in Ft. Myers. Martin had a steady, consistent season at New Britain and he’s had a good first week in the AFL. For the same reason I’m not at all worried about Valencia because of his slow first week, I temper my excitement for Martin based on one good week. And McCardell was USA Today’s Choice for Twins Minor League Player of the Year. he was terrific. Guerra is still all about upside. Hughes could contribute as early as 2008, but he doesn’t have a real position and strikes out a ton. So, leave lots of comments and help me decide.

by SethSpeaks on Oct 14, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Robertson

I like Mulvey, Dlaney, Slama, and Guerra as well. But Robertson has the most upside. Hopefully he beats the injury bug.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 14, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Robertson

To me, it’s between Mulvey and Robertson.

I’m still struggling with my definition of ‘prospect’. Do I go with the guy that has a higher chance of making it to the majors, but be a #4 or #5 starter (Mulvey), or do I go with the guy that has more potential, but much more risk of flaming out (Robertson)?

In this case, I had to go for the potential.

What would my life be like without the '91 World Series?

by MJesser on Oct 14, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is...

the real question here. My opinion is that both have ot come into play somewhat, but I definitely lean toward the ceiling.

by SethSpeaks on Oct 14, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I debated between Robertson and Guerra....

and went with Guerra. But I can see either side just fine.

I think Mulvey is next for me after those 2, but Guerra/Robertson are VERY close to me in overall ceiling.

by DJSkillz on Oct 14, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went

I went with Hughes again. Robertson is next for me. I had to wait on him over the injury concerns, of course.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Oct 14, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Robertson

Next vote… I don’t know. I’m split between Hughes and Guerra for the 9th pick.

"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"

by maxisagod on Oct 14, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that Tosoni...

…could be the star of all the players currently in the minor leagues. Like so many, he has a long ways to go. Unfortunately, this year was cut short by a broken foot…but after jumping from his first year in ETon a level up to Ft. Myers he played like a future star. After being one of the league’s top hitters the first month, plus, of the season…he went down with an injury. He came back at the end of the year and didn’t appear to have missed much…playing centerfield in the playoffs with two playoff home runs. Expect he will start next season at Ft. Myers and move up to New Britain at mid-season as Valencia did this year. Look for Tosoni to be playing a corner outfield spot for the Twins as early as September, 2010.

by roger13 on Oct 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

You’re that high on Tosoni, Roger?

I hope you’re right.

by DJSkillz on Oct 14, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cripes

Already voted for Mulvey. Hard to get excited by a guy whose name almost rhymes with a part of the female anatomy. Sorry, bad Seinfeld reference. The Tosoni support sounds good; a more established version of Hicks or Morales. I especially like that he came back from the injury strong.

The upside vs. contributing to the majors debate has come to this in my mind: If I were a general manager of a middle of the road team (Florida on one end and the Yankees on the other) who would I want in a trade? Would I risk my livelihood on a hitter in the rookie leagues if I were trading away a Johan Santana? Or would I prefer some guys 21-22 years old—guys still with upside but also a decent track record. So I go Mulvey.

If any hitter Ft. Myers on down were on a Griffey Jr. or B.J. Upton type track, I think we’d know it…

by Han Joelo on Oct 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tosoni vs Hicks/Morales

I like Tosoni too and think he has a chance, but there is no comparing Hicks and Morales to Tosoni. In my mind, Tosoni could be a good corner outfielder in the big leagues. I ranked him 15th. To give some perspective, I once ranked Trent Oeltjen 10th before he settled down in the 20s and 30s. I had Alex Romero 9th or 10th even when he was dropped from the 40 man. I had Jason Kubel in the top 3. I like Tosoni as a Jason Kubel light. Not as much power, probably a little higher average. But Tosoni hasn’t done yet what Kubel did in the minor leagues… maybe in 2009 he can do what Kubel did in 2004.

Hicks and Morales have chances to be All-Star caliber players if their tools ever take.

by SethSpeaks on Oct 14, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is really interesting about...

…our voting. If you said, who are the players from this group that had the highest amount of success in 2008 at the highest level…you would be debating between Delaney, Hughes and Tolleson. Hughes would likely get the nod and is getting a lot of votes. Delaney is also getting some votes…but Steve Tolleson was hitting for a higher average at AA than Hughes during part of the year, then he also went down with an injury. I don’t know if Tolleson is, or should be a Top 10 selection. But he is one heck of a player who will very likely have a solid major league career. Depending upon the circumstances he may be a utility player or maybe a starting middle infielder…but he is someone who deserves a few votes sometime during the next few selections.

by roger13 on Oct 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Upside

Personally, I take upside above who does well at the highest level. Delaney is a middle relief prospect. Unless he’s left handed, it’s tough to get excited about the next Matt Guerrier. Hughes is the second coming of Brandon Harris. And Tolleson is the next Matt Tolbert. All those guys did well at the highest levels and will be bench or bit players in the majors.

On the other hand, Velencia, Revere, Hicks, Morales, Ramos, Swarzak, Robertson, Guerra, Mijares, Gutierrez, Mulvey, and a few others have a chance to be really special and perform at the highest levels on the biggest stage. That’s why we rate them higher as prospects—not necessarily on performance, but by tools and age and the things scouts care about.

We call them prospects, not just good minor league players, because they have a good chance of being good major league players. At the end of their careers, their minor league numbers will mean nothing. It’s what they will do at the major league level that counts.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 14, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CMath...

….wasn’t so much lobbying for the three at AA to be chosen at this point, rather, was surprised that the three hadn’t gotten many (or in Tolleson’s case, any) votes. Personally, thought Tosoni is a great pick here.

by roger13 on Oct 15, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hughes is the second coming of Brandon Harris.

Agreed… great comp!

It’s interesting trying to comp the upside of many of these players as well as the likely comp.

by SethSpeaks on Oct 14, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

got a bit busy today at work. I will update the ballot now…

by SethSpeaks on Oct 15, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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