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Patrick Reusse on my pet peeve

Why playoff games have become unwatchable.

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I don’t complete disagree with him… Personally, I can still watch them, or at least have them on the TV. But to a casual fan, I can fully understand not watching. Games take forever. The commercial breaks are longer. Managers over-manage. Seriously, can any reliever get more than one or two outs in an inning? Didn’t Torre make like three pitching changes in one inning last night and I think he and Manuel made two pitching changes several times. I’m as big a fan of the walk as it gets, but I also want umps to call strikes. Open it up a little bit. Again, I think to a casual viewer, it could be hard to watch.

by SethSpeaks on Oct 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the Twins aren't in it

I make a small bet on a team before the playoffs to go all the way. Last year I was trying to ride the Sabathia/Carmona combo, and it almost worked. I would been paid 6-1.

This year I didn’t get around to it, but since the Rays remind me most of the Twins, I’m pulling for them.

by TMW on Oct 14, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Balls and strikes

There are myriad things making lengthening games—adjusting batting gloves, calling time-outs, pitching changes etc.— but take them all away and you still get much the same result. To me the root cause is umpires not calling strikes, especially with two strikes on the batter. When I played, if you got two strikes on you, you better swing at everything close because the ump was guaranteed to give the pitcher the benefit of the doubt. Now it seems the pitcher has to throw it down the middle to get that third strike called. The batter now gets the benefi of the doubt and every close third strike call is automatically followed by an exasperated look from the hitter, like “how dare you ring me up!” The umpire’s tight strike zone—especially with two strikes—is the root of this whole mess.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 14, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Root of the problem

Commercial breaks are too long, too many warm-up pitches. Are networks actually going to correct it? No way. Playoff games, especially ones that feature more than 9 runs scored, are going to be slow. You just have to deal with it.

by TMW on Oct 14, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Warmups

“Why do they have to warm up again on the mound, they were just warming up in the Bullpen. Thats why the game takes so long.” —Ray Barone

by WITwinsfan on Oct 15, 2008 9:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time

Mike Hargrove had a nickname when he played- The Human Rain Delay, because he took so much time in the batter’s box. He wouldn’t even be noticed anymore what the the Nomars of the world readjusting their velcro between every pitch. I hate how time gets called all the time. I’d also like to see a limit placed on pickoff attempts. Nothing kills the excitement quite like two or three throws over to first in the middle of a late inning rally.

by JopeX37 on Oct 14, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time calling scapegoat = A joke

Batter’s don’t call time to be jerks and hold the game up. It’s because the pitcher and catcher have taken so long to throw a pitch the batter broke his concentration.

And how much time does calling time actually eat up, 12 seconds? It’s such a corporate partyline crock.

You want results in shortening the game? Designate two maybe three (the 2nd and 5th innings probably) innings on both sides where the starting pitcher doesn’t go back to the dugout, he goes to the bullpen. Then he starts warming up when the 2nd out is made. When he gets back to the mound he gets 2 or 3 warmup tosses to make sure the dirt is to the pitcher’s liking. Then get the next inning going right away. No Menard’s or Casino commercials.

What? That would never happen because of the lost ad revenue? Well then, I guess everyone should shut the hell up and not expect this game to always finish in 2.5 hours.

Let’s just criticize things like mound visits and calling time, you know tactical parts of the game that weigh on the outcome.

by TMW on Oct 15, 2008 11:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He

The pathetic thing about that article is he has a good theme, but a whiny point. Instead, he just laments how “the game has changed” and proceeds to whine about walks and on base percentage. In reality, the playoff games are too long because of extra long commercial breaks, more pitching changes, super long 7th inning stretch activities, etc. Blame Fox, not the poor umps.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Oct 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Still beats the hell out of the NFL

Reusse’s stuff is consistently the best of anyone writing in the Twin Cities, and he did another great job here.

Not sure why baseball is more frequently the target of these complaints, though. Whether it’s salaries or length of season or slow play or steroids, the NFL, NHL and NBA are cited far less often than baseball. Maybe the expectations for the return on your dollar are so low that no one cares.

There is one way that anyone can tolerate attending a Minnesota Vikings game: be in the Samsung box. You can watch other sports on TV, including the Twins early in the football season, stroll around and get food, drinks, and enjoy the rare moments of on-field action in between a relentless onslaught of TV timeouts. The games take forever and if you are actually there, you rarely see any activity on the field. Pre-season games are even more intolerable. The NFL should be paying people to attend those nap sessions.

The NBA is similarly dull in person. Once again, the cake-eaters know how to live. The Cambria box at the Target Center is really the only place to watch the damned game. Free food – free drinks last year with the team so lame – and great bathrooms.

All pro sporting events are – in general – too slow, the seasons are too long, and the players are too attentive to the fact they are on TV. Interestingly, virtually every pro athlete today grew up with mommy and daddy videotaping them. It’s fine that their parents were so invested in the tykes’ antics, but Paul O’Neill wasn’t my kid and I got real sick of him bitching at each and every called strike he suffered during his entire career.

As for the Chuck Knoblauch Un-Velcro-Velcro delay, these guys don’t get to adjust their batting gloves after every batting practice pitch, so why the hell is it necessary to do it during the game?

Probably because the cameras aren’t rolling during BP.

by Johnny Safron on Oct 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

I think baseball catches all the extra flack for being long because it is played every night for 6 months whereas a game like, say, football, only gets played once a week, so you can kind of forget about it for a little while, then start to get hyped for the next game, then only have to spend one afternoon a week watching. Or two, if you like college football too.

I think that’s probably the basis of that complaint.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Oct 14, 2008 11:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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