Minnesota Twins Prospect #4 (Poll)
Aaron Hicks ran away with the vote for Twins Prospect, #3, so let's continue...
- Danny Valencia, 3B
- Ben Revere, OF
- Aaron Hicks, OF
Off the ballot (for this round) - Kevin Mulvey, Anthony Slama
On the ballot - Jose Mijares, Trevor Plouffe and Tyler Robertson (back on).
Again, please vote for the player that you think is the Twins top prospect among those remaining on the ballot. Poll will be up for approximately 24 hours. Please vote, but also discuss your selection and the players available.
Again, if you have any questions or want to do some research on any of the prospects mentioned, one starting point might be http://www.sethspeaks.net/100208.htm. That is my personal Top 10 list, and it has links to all of my top 50 choices.
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Morales
Now that Hicks, my choice for #1 Twins prospect is off the list, I jump to the guy I picked at #3, Angel Morales. Younger than Hicks and Revere. Five tool talent, but like many, needs to cut down on the strikeouts.
by SethSpeaks on Oct 9, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Got to vote for Morales...
…for the fourth time. Maybe this will be the time he wins! Certainly has as much upside as any player in the organization.
by roger13 on Oct 9, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Morales
I voted for Morales. When being drafted he was said to have “below-average power.” But he certainly is looking like a potential 5-tool guy. Hopefully he can keep progressing and put in another solid season. It’s hard watching other 5-tool guys like Joe Benson and Danny Santiesteban struggle so much. So hopefully Morales (and Hicks) continue to produce for us and become legit 5-tool players.
Progress always involves taking risks. You can't steal second base and keep your foot on first. ~ Frederick B. Wilcox
by Joshs Thoughts on Oct 9, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Morales / E-Twins ballpark
Check out the home/away HRs for some of the E-Twins hitters. The E-Twins park seems to be a hitter/HR friendly park — that might be a factor in some of their high HR totals. It’s encouraging to see Morales HRs were split down the middle, though. Might mean his power is more legit than the others listed?
7 home, 3 away – Alex Soto
7 home, 2 away – Waltenbury
8 home, 4 away – Bigley
7 home, 7 away – Morales
Anybody have an idea of what the E-Twins home field is like?
by B-Ville on Oct 9, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Ramos again...
His position just makes him much more valuable IMO, and he’s performed at a higher level.
by DJSkillz on Oct 9, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Been voting for Ramos
He could be the top minor league catching prospect.
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by cmathewson on Oct 9, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramos
I had him 7th in my prospect ranking last week, but I definitely think I will start voting for him next.
by SethSpeaks on Oct 9, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's
It’s Ramos time for me now. He’s put up some huge friggin numbers.
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by AdamOnFirst on Oct 9, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Morales gets my vote.
I’m going a lot on “potential” and “tools” here, but he ranks pretty highly in both departments.
by Jesse on Oct 9, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Seth...
…this is not only fun, but everyone on this (and your) site knows a lot about many of the better young players in the organization. When rookies now get a callup, we no longer read about it in the STrib and wonder….who is he? Thank you Sir, this is fun!
by roger13 on Oct 9, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
Thanks guys, I enjoy following the minor leaguers almost as much as the big leaguers…
by SethSpeaks on Oct 9, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Highest Paid Player
on the team is Joe Nathan. Maybe in four years Morales or Ramos or Hicks or Revere will be ready to join the big club and have a Carlos Gomez or B.J. Upton type rookie year, but here’s hoping that in four years Mijares will be ready to replace Nathan as closer. He certainly showed he wasn’t intimidated by high-pressure situations, he’s a hard throwing lefty, and he’s young.
Meanwhile, he can play an integral part in the bullpen. Heck the Twins don’t even have to consider resigning Reyes for what, $12 mil for three years? There’s your Punto money right there—so I guess you have to factor that into Mijares’ value—he’s practically worth two players in one…
Relievers may have a built in downgrade on prospect lists—I understand when a guy like Delaney or Slama is downgraded. They are lower level guys already relieving, while most big league relievers rise through the ranks as starters. But good relief pitchers at the big league level arevaluable. Mijares proved he belonged, quickly gaining Gardy’s confidence (a lot faster than Breslow did.) Getting Mijares on board a few weeks earlier this year would’ve been nice.
by Han Joelo on Oct 9, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mijares vs Delaney
I think this is a great, interesting topic. I fully admit downgrading relievers as prospects, again due to their ceiling being pitching 60-75 innings a year. I do that while fully understanding that generally at least half of those innings are big situations.
What if Mijares would not have been called up from AA in September? Would we even have him in our Top 20? 30? 50? What if he would have come up and struggled a little bit in September? Would that have made him any less of a prospect? Those are somewhat rhetorical questions but at the same time, I am curious what people think…
Then compare what Rob Delaney did at AA to what Jose Mijares did at AA this year (in more innings because of Mijares’s injury and rehab). What if it would have been Delaney called up for September (it very well could have been) and he would have earned that 8th inning role? Would that have made him more of a prospect?
My fear is we’re all so sure about Mijares based on 8 or 9 very good outings. They were great, and like all of you, I am excited about what he could become for this team. But at the same time, this is a great situation to highlight the ’small sample size" phenomenon.
I’ll be completely honest. Had Mijares not been called up to the Twins in September, he maybe would have been in the 40s in my personal Top 50. The fact that he did come up and did well and looked pretty ready was exciting and I pushed him up to #21, ahead of both Delaney and Slama even though it could be strongly argued that at least Delaney is just as big a prospect… we just haven’t seen it, which is about opportunity, which Mijares got and Delaney didn’t…
Just something to discuss.
by SethSpeaks on Oct 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was curious... Mijares/Delaney AA Comparison:
Delaney –
2-1, 5 saves, 1.05 ERA, 0.79 WHIP
Mijares –
1-1, 2 saves, 2.93 ERA, 1.50 WHIP
Delaney –
23 G, 34.1 IP, 20 H, 4 ER, 2 HR, 7 BB, 38 K
Mijares –
11 G, 15.1 IP, 16 H, 5 ER, 2 HR, 7 BB, 17 K
Delaney is a month and a half older than Mijares.
by SethSpeaks on Oct 9, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Terry Ryan Factor
Not that TR is infallible, but apparently he was pretty high on Mijares, thus, he gets the callup and not Delaney (or Barrett) Nonetheless, the statistical comparison between Jose and Robert is quite interesting. I wouldn’t consider Mijares at #4 without the September callup, and statwise Delaney was more deserving, and who is to say Delaney (or even Slama) wouldn’t have performed just as well for 9 appearances.
Were Neshek’s stats lights out before his promotion? Serious question; I’m just wondering about the Twins minor league pitching philosophy—they often seem to be less enamored with stats versus makeup or just the idea certain guys are asked to ‘work’ on stuff but can be deemed ready for a promotion despite seemingly subpar stats.
Not that Luis Castillo was the end all, or that Delmon Young will be, but I remember how highly regarded Travis Bowyer was (for Castillo) and I remember many people being distraught that Eduardo Morlan was included in the Garza/Delmon swap. Just seems like the Twins are pretty good at not giving away (i.e. identifying) good relief pitchers. I am guessing Lahey won’t even enter this discussion for twenty more spots, but for some reason I think Lahey/Delaney/Slama/Mijares will be integral parts of the Twins bullpen for years to come.
by Han Joelo on Oct 9, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lahey
I didn’t have him in my Top 50… he’s old for a prospect and had a horrible season… but he’s a converted catcher, so you don’t expect him to develop quickly. They must still see something. I don’t plan on putting him up for a vote unless people ask for him.
by SethSpeaks on Oct 9, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mijares
Seth,
Mijares was considered a solid prospect last year before the injury. He basically showed he was as productive as he was last year when he was called up this year. I probably would have pegged him 15-20 level prospect based off of that. but he also showed us he was able to handle the pressure of a pennant race and pitched great out of the bullpen in Sept. That is a huge psychological barrier to pass. He’s done it so he moves up the prospect list for that.
by doofus on Oct 11, 2008 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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