Exclusive Q&A with John Manuel--editor of Baseball America
I'm pleased to announce that John Manuel has agreed to answer my questions related to prospects in the Twins system. John is the co-editor in chief of Baseball America with Will Lingo, which means he and Will run the editorial department for that publication, including assigning analysts and other editorial resources to teams' and editing all their work. He also covers some of the teams as a regular analyst would, including the Twins. Last year, his Twins coverage was quite controversial, but suffice it to say he got the last laugh. This year he is just about to release his Twins top 20 list. Obviously, he can't pre-announce anything, but you might be able to read between the lines to see how he rates some of Twins prospects I ask about.
Thanks for agreeing to do this Q&A John. I believe you have a better handle
on the Twins system than any other analyst.
Q: Last year you shocked the blogosphere by picking Nick Blackburn as the
top prospect in the system. Most of us liked his numbers, but figured he
was too old and did not have as high of a ceiling as some others, for
example Tyler Robertson. Obviously, you got the last laugh on that one. Is
there a similar prospect this year--a late bloomer who will ascend the list
because of major league readiness?
A: Blackburn was fun to watch. I was shocked at how much outrage there was, frankly--lots of people calling me crazy. I was quite glad he had the kind of year he had--he was a No. 3/No. 4 starter for a team that just missed winning a division. That's about what his ceiling is, I thought, and he might just be better down the line, which would be nice. I'm happy for him. As for this year, no, I think the Twins have a much more defined line of who their top prospects are and who they are not. I don't think there are any huge surprises in the Twins' system. I like several of their 2008 draftees such as Bobby Lanigan, Michael Tonkin and B.J. Hermsen more than most, but I don't think that's a surprise for BA. Late bloomers? Luke Hughes qualifies, but looks unlikely for the top 10. Matt Tolbert still qualifies but also won't make the top 10; no one fits the same profile this year. Sorry for the lack of drama.
Q: On my list, I have a lot of really young players near the top: Wilson
Ramos, Angel Morales, Aaron Hicks, Ben Revere, Robertston and Deolis Guerra
are all in my top 10 and all under 20 years old. How do you rank these
young guys? To what extent do you give special treatment to guys who are
young for their level of play? (Editor's note: I have since revised my ranking of Guerra.)
A: I think you're high on several players there. Clearly it's good to be young, young for a level, also nice to have a young guy who hasn't been exposed. But our scouting reports on Robertson, Guerra and Morales aren't glowing enough to put them in the top 10. Robertson's the closest, but he was throwing 83 mph in his second-to-last start. Scouts have long had questions about his arm action (by long I mean since high school, way back in 2006), and perhaps this tendinitis is the manifestation of that rather unorthodox arm action. We'll see. Guerra's scouting reports this year were frankly worse than that, and I did the Mets list last year so I talked to plenty of people on Guerra last year; he was better then than he was this year. Morales has super upside but it super raw. You mentioned teenage sensation Aaron Hicks, whom I will rank quite high. His tools are superior to those of Morales, he's more polished, much more likely to stay in CF . . . he's a lot better, for me, than Angel Morales as a prospect.
Q: Anthony Swarzak seemed to elevate his game after he made the jump to
AAA. I know you're not terribly high on him because he's mostly a two-pitch
pitcher without great fastball (FB) control. Has his stock risen in your eyes? Do you
see him as a starter or reliever in the majors?
A: His stock has risen a bit; he had a weird year in terms of performance. His combination of stuff, age and performance makes him the Twins' best starting pitching prospect in the minors at this time. He still needs better fastball command to thrive as a starter and could factor into the bullpen in '09, which wouldn't be a bad thing.
Q: The Twins have two third base prospects in the high minors who could
make an impact in a couple of years--Luke Hughes and Danny Valencia. What
are your thoughts on these players? Which one do you think is the third
baseman of the future?
A: If Hughes was good enough defensively at 3b, he would have been in Minnesota. Even now, he's just been moved from 3b to LF in the Venezuelan Winter League. (The Twins want him there playing 3b.) I just don't think he's cut out to be a regular in the infield, but it sounds like his power is real. He's a rhythm hitter who stayed healthy, got in a rhythm and crushed the ball in the first half as all his physical maturity, experience and playing time came together. He's just not quite there defensively. Valencia ranks ahead of him for me, he put some things together offensively this year and defensively from a consistency and maturity standpoint. It would be better if he weren't the best prospect in an organization at the upper levels, but that is what he is right now for Minnesota.
Q: Jose Mijares came up late this year and did a phenomenal job in tough
situations for the Twins. Was this a fluke or do you think he has staying
power?
A: He has staying power. He ranked No. 11 coming into the year for BA, pre-Mets trade, and that was before the car wreck that wrecked his offseason. He's got plus-plus stuff at times and he's matured off the field and has become more consistent on and off the field. He's got a chance to be Minnesota's top setup man for the next 3 to 5 years.
Q: This past year, two of the most highly thought of prospects--Robertson
and Guerra--struggled some with injuries or mechanical issues. Did their
stock drop? How do you rate them now?
A: Yes, both dropped a decent amount. Robertson pitched well with less than his best stuff and didn't have surgery, but his injury is frankly troubling nonetheless because he has that funky arm action. I like him better than Guerra right now because Guerra just never showed the velocity he had shown as a Mets farmhand, and it sounds like he's not as athletic as a pitcher his size needs to be to be a stud/ace. He sounds like more of a decent chance to be a starter guy than an ace guy.
Q: Trevor Plouffe has had a couple of solid but not spectacular years as a
youngster in his league. Last year you projected him as a future utility
player. Has your evaluation of him changed at all? If so, how?
A: He's got the power to be a regular; he's got the plate discipline of a second-division regular or utility guy. I think the Twins like him better than I do.
Q: The Twins acquired a couple of top pitching prospects in Philip Humber
and Kevin Mulvey in the Santana trade. Both had disappointing first halves
at Rochester before really turning it around in the second half. How would
you rate them now?
A: Mulvey remains ahead of the more-heralded Humber (Mulvey was ahead last year in our Mets rankings). However, Mulvey's stuff was a bit down from what he did with New York; perhaps he and Guerra tried too hard to live up to being dealt for Santana. Humber figured things out in terms of commanding the fastball, working off his fastball and putting people away with his curve late in the year. He *could* be valuable as a middle or long reliever, a better version of Brian Bass last year, but there's no room in the rotation for him right now, and he's out of options.
Q: Was Brian Duensing's stock affected by his showing in the Olympics? If
so, how?
A: It was in that it kind of saved a down year for him; he wasn't as sharp with his command. He still has important fans in the Twins organization and ranks ahead of Humber for a rotation spot if there's an opening, and then in Beijing he showed the ability to be a flexible reliever. The Twins like him, quite a lot actually.
Q: Jeff Manship had a disappointing year at AA but still managed to garner
an invite to the AFL. Many scouts predicted that he would struggle in the
high minors and beyond despite dominating A ball. Do you agree with these
guys? How do you rate Manship?
A. I think I reported that, that he was working more off his curve and that's why he dominated at lower levels, but his fastball was better this year. This was a transition year for him. There's a split camp in and out of the org as to who's better -- Manship or Swarzak, Manship or Duensing, Manship or Mulvey. Those four guys are tough to rank. Not sure how I'll rank 'em yet. Working on that right now.
Q: The Twins have a few other prospects at the AFL who are intriguing.
Given the way the bullpen performed this year, I'm especially interested in
a trio relievers: Tim Lahey, Robert Delaney and Anthony Slama. None of
these guys have the draft pedigree that suggests prospects. Do they still
have value?
A: Slama was in our Top 30 last year, hope someone noticed that I ranked them. Our Alan Matthews, who is now a scout with the Rockies, saw Slama in college and loved him, and I trusted him plus our other reports on him, and he had a tremendous, tremendous year. However, Delaney is ahead of him in the Twins' pecking order at this time. Both have fastballs that sink, with Delaney having a heavy, heavy fastball when he's right. Both have solid sliders, Slama's slider is better but Delaney's fastball command is better. Both have a chance to impact the big league bullpen in '09, more likely neither guy has a great career but if one of them becomes a sixth- or seventh-inning option in 2009 or 2010, I would consider that a huge success. Delaney's undrafted, Slama was a 39th round pick. Lahey has more power stuff and also sinks it but for me the other two guys are better bets.
That's plenty of questions for now. Thanks again for your answers!
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confirms what I heard on Robertson I would have liked to be wrong on that.
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by FrozenTed9 on Nov 11, 2008 12:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tendonitis
I’m hoping it was just arm pain that caused the drop in velo. We’ll see come spring.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a doctor...
Tendonitus doesn’t sound so bad to me. I would think Rest and building arm strength would be best. That actually was kind of a relief to me. Am I undervaluing it?
by SethSpeaks on Nov 11, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Sometimes tendinitis is a symptom of a bigger problem and can become chronic. But rest and rehab usually take care of it. That’s why I said we’ll see come spring. If he’s throwing consistently in the 90s, that will be a good sign. But some people have said he’s a reliever long term because his delivery tends to lead to minor arm problems after a lot of innings. I’d like to see him put up 170 innings (counting an AFL appearance) without problems. Like so many other prospects int eh system, this is a big year for him.
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by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This was the most
interesting thing I’ve read all day. Thanks a lot, cmath!
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by Andersklasen on Nov 11, 2008 1:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This was the most...
Interesting thing I have read in a long time!! Great job CMath!
by SethSpeaks on Nov 11, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
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by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks CMath...
…and what an excellent read. Nice to get some insight into what a pro from the outside sees in some of our prospects. Certainly seems that he believes that Guerra’s performance trumps his prior prospect status. Hopefully, the Twins will be able to get this young man turned around so that he helps several years in the future. Also, seems that the reports out of Rochester that Swarzak has developed two additional pitches may be lost in his analysis. That will likely determine what kind of career Anthony has. I also believe that if Morales can cut down his strikeouts, opinions will change as to his upside.
Thanks again, this was great!
by roger13 on Nov 11, 2008 9:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Roger
Your opinion means a lot to me. But you know that.
One bias in BA’s coverage relative to the blogosphere is that, all things considered, they prefer polish over upside. Prospects with big upside but big holes in their game tend to get less respect from BA than they do from other analysts, such as John Sickels or Aaron Gleeman. Part of that is that BA pays closer attention to scouting reports than numbers. So, while Gleeman showed that Morales had the best offensive year in the system despite the strikeouts, BA is a bit hung up on the strikeouts.
I honestly don’t know what is the right approach. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. BA has a long track record of success, so it’s tough to argue with them. I just like to get a variety of perspectives and try to balance them out. Come to think of it, that’s the power of the Web: you can compare and contrast multiple positions quickly and develop a synthesis with your community.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Morales
I personally can’t help but look at the numbers, understanding the strikeouts. I know that even people in and around the Twins definitely thought I had Morales ranked too high.
My opinion is both ways will get some right and both ways will get some wrong. each player is different and paths to the big leagues are never a given. Albert Pujols wasn’t even in the Cardinals Top 10 prospects (I don’t think) the offseason before he won Rookie of the Year, and look what he has become.
The reality, and the beauty and the frustration, of prospect rankings is that they are so imperfect. That’s what I love about it!
I agree on getting a variety of perspectives. I know I try to look at the numbers overall, try to see how streaky they are (to determine peak value with improvement, or better understand what puts them into slumps and could be more exposed over promotions). I try to get perspectives from those closer to the team.
Taht’s also kind of the beauty of our Twinkie Town Top 50 prospect list. It brings together many opinions to come up with some sort of consolidated list.
by SethSpeaks on Nov 11, 2008 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Correcion from John Manuel
I’ve been e-mailing with John and he wanted to correct something I wrote above:
I saw James’ comment that BA prefers polish over upside. I’d say as a
rule, we actually go the other way. I might be the “polished” guy in
the office after the Blackburn ranking, but we have really sought to
balance upside/ceiling with polish, numbers and scouting reports, age
and level of competition with future role, all those elements. I
honestly think we try to be in the middle on these kinds of issues,
try to strike a balance and consider all the data. However, we’re not
monolithic, and we have 15 or so different writers (I’ve lost count!)
doing top 30s (not top 20s) in our Prospect Handbook every year, and
each one of them will do things a bit differently.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say
I thought the Opposite was true when I read your post above.
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by FrozenTed9 on Nov 11, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Job CMATH!
Very interesting to get John’s view on some of the players. I view a prospect much the same way, giving a higher preferance to a player those done it at a higher level against better competition vs. a ceiling guy. By the way, who creates the ceiling? Thanks for the work!
by Twins win on Nov 11, 2008 11:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
more on Morales
I understand the point about Morales striking out a lot. That is obvious. He could also have mentioned how poorly Morales did against lefties. Surprising for a RH hitter that he would collapse against RHP. But it is, in my opinion, a reflection of how raw Morales is. He just hasn’t seen enough quality left handed pitching.
Morales destroyed right handed pitching in the Appy League. He batted .342 against right handed pitching. he had 146 at bats..and 25 extra base hits against RHP. How many 18 year olds have done anywhere near that in the Appy league?
His problem was lefties. He struck out 20 times in 37 at bats against lefties. Clearly, that impacts his overall numbers dramatically. Clearly he needs substantially more exposure to quality left handed pitching. But, also…clearly, this kid has immense talent. Sure 146 at bats against right handers is not a huge sample size..but for his age, at that level of competition…it projects HUGE upside.
CMATH, you did an excellent job on this…and you were RIGHT in assessing Morales the way you did. Hicks may very well be the CF of the future, but Morales will be an extraordinary RF (he has the arm for it) and will complement Hicks very well some day.
by NorthDakotaTwinsFan on Nov 11, 2008 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where does that leave Revere NDTF?
…and believe me, that is a legitimate question. If Hicks does develop into the CF of the future and Morales is a hitter and defensive player who can play left or right, where does Revere fit in? On the other hand he is the only one of the three to have actually played A ball for most of the year. Interesting dilema the Twins may have.
by roger13 on Nov 11, 2008 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might be in the minority...
but I really, really wish they’d try him at 2b as soon as possible. If he could ever capably play there that would do wonders for the organization.
And CMath, thanks from me as well for this. Great read.
It sparked something for me too; with Neshek down, what about trying Swarzak as a RH reliever on the Twins this year? Let him gain some seasoning up here. Then if a starter goes down or is injured, he steps in and hopefully one of Delaney or Slama is ready to fill the relief hole. Just a thought.
by DJSkillz on Nov 11, 2008 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Delaney/Slama
I’d like to give Swarzak a chance to hone his control and offspeed stuff to become a starter. But I do think Delaney and Slama might be able to step into the breech left by Neshek.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Left Field
To me, he’s a left handed Shanon Stewart. The prospect of a Revere/Hicks/Morales outfield gets my juices flowing.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 11, 2008 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Left Field, I agree
I saw Revere play a few times for Beloit. I did not see the “problems” that apparently exist regarding his outfield defense. His arm is better than Shannon Stewart, in my opinion. The problem is there is a tendency to want to compare his arm to Gomez, Young, Hicks and/or Morales. All of these guys have excellent arm strength. Revere does not.
But Revere is smoking fast. And his swing…is pure beauty. I saw him hit bad pitchers and good pitchers. He was the only Beloit hitter to get a good swing on Derek Holland, the night I saw him play Clinton. He laced a single off Holland, (a very tough lefty who may be in the Texas rotation by late 2009, certainly by 2010). Revere can hit anyone, RHP or LHP. His wrists are phenomenal. Very quick bat. Very good eye. An excellent lead off prospect. And a very nice complement to Hicks and Morales …imagine 4-5 years from now…that is the fastest outfield in baseball with POTENTIALLY lots of power, lots of xbh, lots of stolen bases and just about as ideal a lead off prospect as you could find. I know it is a long ways away, and a lot can happen, but these three OF prospects get me a little wound up too.
by NorthDakotaTwinsFan on Nov 11, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A word or two about Parmelee
I saw Parmelee play for Beloit this year. He played first base. When projecting, I may be a bit harsh. For example, I saw McCardell a couple times and thought there is no way this guy reaches the majors. (for anyone interested, I will tell you what I saw …and heard from a number of scouts)
But Parmelee….I was thoroughly impressed. With everything. For example, I personally believe he can become an excellent first baseman. He made so many plays in the games I saw. Scooped short hop throws to save errors, fielded every ball hit to him, including some hard hit balls, made excellent foul ball catches down the line (even caught one while almost climbing a wall of a building that was in foul territority. He was very …very solid at 1b.
I saw him play a couple games in June…in which Parmelee could have walked in every single at bat. Nobody pitched to this guy. He hit a 430 plus foot homer on a 3-0 pitch. But likely could have walked that at bat too. He has big time power (but Ozzie and Deibinson could not protect him enough..so they pitched around him all year) and his eye has improved. He got impatient and swung at bad pitches a couple times..but I attribute that to the fact he wanted to hit so badly but had already walked three times in the game…he needs some lineup protection to see exactly where he is as a hitter….I see him as among the top 8 Twins prospects…that’s just my opinion.
by NorthDakotaTwinsFan on Nov 11, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
? on McCardell
I am quite interested in what you saw and heard. Did you see him before the injury, or when he was just first coming back.
Everything I’ve been told, including by a scout from another organization, is that he has 3 above average pitches already, good command and great mound presence. Seems like a pretty solid combo.
by SethSpeaks on Nov 11, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
McCardell
Seth,
I saw him pitch a couple times. I think both times I saw him pitch it was after his injury. Nobody was at the games I saw in Clinton, IA. So I sat right behind home plate. Several scouts were there. I spoke to a scout from the Red Sox off and on all night. Derek Holland had pitched the night before and I thought he looked very good..so did the Red Sox scout (who by the way thought we should have made Hicks a pitcher..but what does he know?)…. And the radar guns I could see told a similar story. Holland was consistently in the low 90’s. Loud snap each time the catcher caught the ball.
McCardell did not face Holland…McCardell pitched the next day…same scouts for the most part..same radar guns…McCardell was in the mid to high 80’s. Not much of a snap on each pitch. (the same for when I saw him in Beloit. Did not throw as hard as I thought he would) Anyway, one scout in particular said good things about Holland and the Clinton pitcher that night, (I think it was Gomez)…but he particularly did not like McCardell. Thought his fastball had no bite…did not sink…lacked movement.
Of course Clinton pounded him that night. So maybe he just had an off night. But other scouts were not impressed either. He does have a nice curveball. But it wasn’t a sharp slider type curve…it was more of a slower curve..but often with lots of break…a down and across break..like from 10 o’clock to 4 o’clock if that helps…So a big bender. He fooled hitters with it..and buckled knees. But his change up, or whatever that offspeed pitch was, was unimpressive…so basically he was throwing straight fastballs in the high 80’s with a very good curve..no change up…I mean..all in all nothing terribly impressive. He did move his fastball around nicely..by that I mean …inside corner..then outside..then up in the zone..and down.. but seemed most effective when he could keep the ball down…which he had trouble doing both times I saw him.
The second time I saw him..in Beloit….he had better results, but not better velocity. And still no third pitch that I could detect…or that any scout was talking about. Although, on a positive note, all scouts liked this one aspect of his pitching: he wants the ball. He was not having a good night but did NOT want to leave the game. He is a guy who wants to pitch. Very determined. So that may speak to what you have heard about his mound presence.
He battles. He did not walk many. But got hit hard both times I saw him. The base hits were absolutely drilled. Not soft line drives. He struck out quite a few guys, but also got touched up pretty good. Who knows, maybe I was bad luck for him…he sure pitched well in the games when I wasn’t there.
by NorthDakotaTwinsFan on Nov 11, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome read, CMath
Really good interview. Thanks for doing this!
by Jesse on Nov 12, 2008 5:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

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