Sooooooo Quiet; or, I Don't Trust Bill Smith
Not too much is going on for the Twins these days. Every year we seem to come into the offseason with some modest free agent hope, something to really get us going here in the frozen north, only to ultimately have our hopes dashed and reminded of how the Twins do bussiness.
Furcal went to the Dodgers and the Yunel Escobar talk died, reports have indicated the Twins are doubtful they'll find the right price in the Ty Wiggington sweepstakes, the Brewers and the Twins haven't seemed to click much over JJ Hardy.
There are a couple small things for Twins fans to mull over though. Let's start with the intriguing: the Twins have been reportadly interested in pursuing Japaneese pitchers Kenshin Kawakami and Koji Uehara. Kawakami had a 2.30 ERA last year and, according to LEN III, would make the Twins confident enough to trade one of their young starts. Uehara would probably be a reliever for the Twins. Before you get too excited about fancy imports though, the market for these guys is rapidly expanding (San Fransisco, Atlanta, Boston, Anaheim, and Baltimore have all been reported involved) after the Yankees snatched up Captain Cheesburger and AJ Burnett and we're probably likely to read those " years and dollars might be a little bit of a stretch" words Twins fans are so accustomed to. It seems to me like with the attention Kawakami is receiving at the moment, unless the Twins really like Kawakami enough to beat out his other suitors, which the probably don't, the Twins should aggressively pursue Uehara while he's still overshadowed by Kawakami.
Now for the horrifying. Another pitcher the Twins have recently been linked to is Brett Tomko. That's right, while we're sitting on a staff of 5 up and coming young hurlers, all of whom had success last year, with several good prospects in the high minors nipping at their heels, the Twins are thinking about filling out their rotation with a guy that got cut from not one, but two teams in the last year. Tomko's 4.68 career ERA (mostly compiled in the NL) is lukewarm enough, now consider that he'll turn 36 before his second start of the season, and has a 5.42 ERA over the last three years. He's spent time in the rotation and the pen, but hasn't been much different in either, and his 5.26 ERA in the bullpen over that time does nothing to indicate he could be the bullpen help the Twins need.
Then again, since paying a high price for Delmon Young, signing Livan Hernandez and Mike Lamb, and letting several cheap bullpen options go by, Bill Smith hasn't done anything for me to demonstrate he's any kind of competent, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the one rumor that ends up with legs.
I tried to find a write up on Kawakami to offer some reading for those more interested, but I couldn't come up with much of anything. If anyone finds, or has, anything going into detail on what kind of a pitcher Kawakami is, please post it in the comments section. For now, all I know is he has a great cutter but scouts aren't sure if his flat, 90 MPH fastball is good enough when his cutter isn't working.
And because he's a great writer, he's been doing it for free for so long, and I'd like him to shameless plug for me if I ever write a book someday, check out Seth Stohs's Twins prospect book. It details 200 Twins prospects, has a foreward by Pat Neshek, and is available for only 8 bucks by download or $12.95 for an oldschool paperback copy. I've downloaded in myself, and it's a great read. Pat Neshek calls it "deeper than anything ever published on the Twins Minor League System." The best part about learning about these guys is they actually might play for the Twins someday, unlike the free agents in the news the Twins are reportedly "pursuing."
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Ken Rosenthal reports Bobby Croby has been put on outright waivers by the A's. For 5.75 million, I'm suddenly surprisingly glad to have Nick Punto.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
by AdamOnFirst on Dec 19, 2008 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kawakami and Uehera
I’m sorry but out of all the years or offseason’s for the Twins to “jump” into the Asian Market for veteran baseball players… this offseason-(2008) is not exactly a good time to approach and sign a player from Japan.
I seriously think both of these guys are overatted….I think it is quite ludicrous to think the Twins upon signing Kawakami will be more comfortable or confident in trading one of Slowey, Blackburn or Perkins…..or other dubbed “young starters”
Kawakami is a fifth starter in the Major Leagues at best in the AL, and his value will only go down as each season passes…
as for Koji Uehara i think he is no more than your 5th or 6th guy out of the bullpen….
-we already have several of those types of guys Crain, Guerrier, if ever to return Neshek.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 19, 2008 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
“Bill Smith hasn’t done anything for me to demonstrate he’s any kind of competent, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the one rumor that ends up with legs.”
No doubt. But I would really like to see us deal some pitching. Even signing a guy like Tomko to fill in a few starts on the back end until Mulvey or someone is ready for the rotation is acceptable. The excess could bring back some minor league hitting talent. We seem pretty content this year to go forward with what we have on the big league roster, for better or worse, and restocking the system with bats seems like the best option going forward.
by The Common Man on Dec 20, 2008 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tomko would be the eighth-best starter on this team
I hate the way the team handles young kids. Last year they signed Hernandez. The year before, Ortiz. Just let the kids pitch. If one fails or there’s an injury, you’ve got Bonser, Humber, Mulvey, Duensing, Swarzak and Manship waiting for opportunities.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Dec 20, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
If we were to move one of our starters, we should do it early to allow Bonser, Humber, Mulvey, Duensing, Swarzak or Manship step up as the #5. I’d prefer to see us trade the starter in a 2 for 1 type of trade that upgrades a position rather than a 1 for 1 to fill a hole elsewhere. While I like the idea of stocking the system with bats, other than SS, we are relatively well stocked at our weaker positions. I could see us trading a starter for a solid SS prospect in AA/AAA and another piece (bullpen arm, second position prospect, etc.).
by Adam Peterson on Dec 20, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tomko
I seriously doubt the Twins are looking at Tomko as a starter. Tomko has always been misused and could be a decent middle innings/late innings reliever. His skills are always much better when he relieves. Here’s hoping that is what the Twins have in mind:
2005-2007 games IP K/9 K/BB
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starter 64 369 5.6 2.0
reliever 53 65 9.0 3.8
by zerg on Dec 20, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they use Tomko as a reliever then ...
ok. Otherwise I would prefer to roll with what we have.
by dumbox97 on Dec 22, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my point would be
you don’t win a World Series with Tomko pitching or even the Japs.
You win it by having an existing core, starting with quality pitching, and then adding to that as needed. the Twins have that core. They need to do what Tampa Bay did. Have the young guys grow so much in a year, add a couple of players, and then, all of a sudden, you’re there.
I think the Twins might be close to there. One reliever, a couple of break-out seasons, steady as she goes improvement.
Let’s not panic until we have a losing record. Things have been firming up in the Twins orbit, and, if they don’t do anything, I sure won’t be wringing my hands.
by Old Twins Cap on Dec 20, 2008 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It might be easier to make deals during the season
Right now, the market really blows. Maybe if we wait, it won’t cost as much to get someone like Beltre. Also, the Teixeira signing will trigger a bunch of other moves and could open things up. Patience.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Dec 21, 2008 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you didn’t mean anything by it, but some people may take offense to the term “Jap” as it has been used as a racial slur (at times) since WWII. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap . Just a heads up :-)
Have a happy holiday everyone!
by Kanonen80 on Dec 22, 2008 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kawakami
If anyone is looking for links about Kawakami, I posted some in my “fanpost” a few days ago.
by lookatthosetwins on Dec 22, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
THe Yankees signed Tex for 180 million, I want to cry.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
by AdamOnFirst on Dec 23, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll just puke.
Now the Yankees have four corner OF/DH: Damon, Swisher, Matsui, Nady. Who goes?
by Adam Peterson on Dec 23, 2008 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
same problem the Twins have.
Now the Skanks….Yanks have the same depth problem the Twins have.
by doofus on Dec 23, 2008 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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