Liriano Getting Closer
The Pioneer Press is reporting that Francisco Liriano had a successful start for the Miracle yesterday. After becoming a new daddy, he'll make another scheduled start on Tuesday for AAA Rochester.
If all things are go, Liriano could be ready to make his first start for the Twins as soon as Sunday, April 13th. Incidentally, that would be the next day that the Twins would need to use Kevin Slowey's spot in the rotation.
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It didn't sound successful to me
It read as if he got hit pretty hard and he gave up alot of runs.
If this was the start of Spring Training I might ignore that but I thought he was trying to prove he was ready to face MLB hitters?
by caluofmn on Apr 4, 2008 2:08 PM EDT 0 recs
As long as Liriano is healthy...
...and missing bats, that is all I'm concerned about. Missing bats means he's probably got most of his movement back, but his control and command are going to be the last things to come around after returning from the surgery, and could take months to regain (if he regains them at all.)
by ubelmann on Apr 4, 2008 4:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Well...
he is most likely missing bats because of the inexperienced hitters he is facing.
by guinness junky on
Apr 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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Gardenhire comments
"It's a continuation of Spring Training from the 10 days or so that he missed," Gardenhire said of Liriano's schedule. "We don't really know about what he did down in the Dominican. We know that he wasn't going to the park every day and taking ground balls and doing drills. I know that for a fact, so his legs are that far behind. He was throwing some games and he would throw a 'pen, but other than that, in between, he didn't do much." (MLB.com)
I know that quote is lifted out of a discussion Gardenhire probably had with Kelly Theiser and so is a little out of context, but it appears to support Gardenhire's preference for players who work hard.
Obviously, there is nothing wrong with having a preference for players who work hard. All things being equal, any good manager would take the Francisco Liriano who works hard, or the Nick Punto who works hard, over the Francisco Liriano who lies around and eats chips, or the Nick Punto that spends his wee hours beer bonging with a bunch of co-eds.
Unfortunately those simple comparisons rarely exist. Instead, Gardenhire, like most of us who manage people, are forced to choose between two candidates with different skill sets. This, of course, makes decisions that much more difficult. Nonetheless there are bottom lines of performance (and yes I will use the dreaded "S" word) and stats that can help a manger make a better-educated decision.
Sticking to baseball and Gardenhire, it seems like too often Gardenhire overestimates the "work ethic" or the "hustle/grit" factor to the detriment of the more important factor of performance.
The most obvious example might be Gardenhire's seeming reluctance to use Kubel vs. just about any other warm body. All right, that is an exaggeration, but what isn't an exaggeration is the fact that Gardenhire consistently (not constantly, consistently) justified his reluctance to use Kubel due to Gardenhire's perception that Kubel is lazy, or a slacker. It's also no exaggeration that Gardenhire continues to use Punto, in large part, because he likes Punto's work ethic and his hard-nosed, hustle/gritty style of play.
I admire Punto's moxy, and I don't blame Gardy for admiring it as well, but I fear that the above comments about Liriano support my worst fears about gardenhire's management style; he overestimates a player's work habits to the extent that it distracts him from paying a little more attention to the individual player's actual on-field performance.
Again, the comments quoted above, are taken a little out of context, but I sure hope that if Liriano is producing gardenhire doesn't see fit to teach him a lesson by keeping him in the minors until he starts "taking ground balls" and "doing drills."
by montanatwinsfan on Apr 4, 2008 8:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Rudy
Rudy worked hard and motivated his team (I'm basing this on the movie, not real life), but his coach was smart enough not to put him in for anything other than a symbolic appearance.
by snolls on
Apr 5, 2008 1:40 PM EDT
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Exactly,
I had the pleasure of growing up and playing hockey with a guy named Shjon Podein. Some of you might know him from his time as a fan favorite with the Philadelphia Flyers or as a fan favorite with the Colorado Avalanche (where he won a ring).
In youth and high school he was all talent, but to make it into the pros he had to change his game. He became a hard-nosed defensive minded offensive player. He would play with reckless abandon and total fearlessness. He quickly became a fan favorite everywhere he went, and he won the respect of his teammates and coaches. He was an absolute dynamo, and his never-ending hustle really helped spark his team, and the fans.
Nonetheless, he never had the talent to be anything but a role-player (a very good role player mind you) and a third/fourth stringer. There was one reason why he stayed in the pros so long, and was as successful as he was: he knew his role and he made the most of it. He didn't try to play like the star he was in high school. And his coaches saw the benefit of playing him in that role where he could actually perform and produce.
Gardenhire and Punto will both be better off when they figure that out.
by montanatwinsfan on
Apr 5, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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