Innocent "Pipe Dream" of a Trade Proposal
This week, the Texas Rangers come to town, and they bring with them a bevy of good, young hitters. However, as much success as they've had scoring runs, they've struggled just as much to get outs. Same old story in Texas.
The Twins are, as usual, the opposite side of that coin. Yes, the Twins have a lot of good, young hurlers. They even have some young hitters with high ceilings, but the Twins have still struggled to score runs. Same old story, again.
For several seasons now, the Rangers have seemed like a good trading partner for the Twins. While no deal has been made between the teams, it's still fun to play "what if" and think of how our lineup could be improved with the addition of a Rangers hitter. -And so, along those lines, I give you the player I'm crying for the Twins to make a deal for: Ian Kinsler.
First off, let me say that I know this is likely impossible. The Rangers just signed Kinsler to a 5-year, $22 million contract with a $10 million option for 2013. They've stamped him as their second baseman for the foreseeable future, and it would take a hefty offer to make them consider dealing him. -But Bill Smith has already shown he's willing to dish a rising young pitcher to improve the lineup for the long term. Also, the Twins do have a farm system stocked with pitching talent. The Twins might be able to afford losing a good, young pitcher for the sake of run production.
-And they would get run production, too. Kinsler is in his 3rd MLB season, and he has a career OPS of .797. Last year, he was a 20 HR/20 SB guy, and he's going to do that year-in and year-out. He has decent power as a right-handed hitter, he draws walks, and he can steal bases. Offensively, he'd be like another Cuddyer with more speed.
So, let's pretend for the sake of innocent "what if" that this is something that could actually happen. What would the Twins have to give up to make this happen? My guess would be Brendan Harris + Nick Blackburn + minor league pitcher. It's my opinion that Harris is not a long-term solution at second. He could be productive for a season or two, but he's not going to be the anchor that Ian Kinsler would be. Of course, the Rangers might see things the same way, but this is a "what if" game after all...
Regardless of the package of young pitching that the Twins would part with, this opening day 2010 lineup would just make me salivate:
1. Carlos Gomez - CF - Age 24
2. Ian Kinsler - 2B - Age 27
3. Joe Mauer - C - Age 26
4. Delmon Young - LF - Age 24
5. Justin Morneau - 1B - Age 28
6. Michael Cuddyer - RF - Age 31
7. Jason Kubel - DH - Age 27
8. Matt Tolbert - 3B - Age 27
9. Alexi Casilla - SS - Age 25
I really believe that the Twins are 1 Ian Kinsler away from having a powerful lineup for the next 5 or so years. -And to me, that is worth giving up a couple of good, young pitchers for.
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I have been a big Kinsler fan for awhile and would give a lot to see him in a Twins uniform. And unlike most fans, you seem to be on track as far as what the Twins would have to give up. However, I wonder if the Rangers are all that high on Blackburn. And I remember the Twins’ attempts to land Soriano in ‘05, and the Rangers GM wanted Liriano in return for renting Soriano for two months. So I’m not sure if he’s someone we could make a deal with.
As for the lineup, I would much rather see Tolbert at SS than Casilla. Lamb or Buscher would be better to have in the lineup.
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by Aaron Fix on May 18, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One minor quibble
Kubel would actually be 28, not 27, at the start of the 2010 season, at least by the reckoning of baseball-reference.com. That’s pretty minor, though.
In the pre-game call-in radio show, someone mentioned that the Rockies were actively trying to deal third-baseman Garrett Atkins, another player the Twins were rumored to be interested in at deadline time last year. The caller asked Bill Smith if there were any discussions with Colorado about Atkins.
Smith’s response, paraphrased: “Major league rules prevent me from discussing any player under contract with another major league team. What I can say is that we’re doing everything we can to improve the lineup.”
by dwintheiser on May 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Kubel was born May 25, 1982.
He’s 25 right now, so he’d be 27 to start 2010.
-Flip
by Flip27 on May 18, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough...
...though a player’s ‘statistical age’ is his age as of July 1 of a particular baseball season. Statistical studies using age use this age because it’s easier than trying to figure out when every player in your study changes age. So even though Kubel will be 27 to start the 2010 season, he should be expected to perform as if he’s 28—in fact, he will be 28 for most of the season, anyway.
And if you don’t think a few months of age make all that big a difference, check this out:
by dwintheiser on May 19, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know
is that Harris is like a wooden soldier out there at 2B on the double play.
He made the single worst pivot I have ever seen in Chicago recently, when he took the throw from 3B and took a full two steps directly toward 1B and right into Juan Uribe, who flipped him like a flapjack allowing Josh Paul to reach and a run to score.
Apparently, it happened again in the Toronto series.
He ain’t a second baseman, and likely, doesn’t have the pop to play 3B. No wonder he’s been with so many teams in so few years—he doesn’t have a position.
by Old Twins Cap on May 19, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right on
He can’t play second hardly at all. He just doesn’t have the instincts to make the footwork or even to catch the ball when it’s thrown chest high to him. He’s have to be hitting .350/850 to be adding value with his glove. It’s too bad Tolbert got hurt. He was the last best option over there. I can’t believe I’m writing this, but when Punto gets back…. too…much…chest…pain..must…stop..typing
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by cmathewson on May 19, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
















