Infield Options, Or Lack Thereof
So while looking more and more at our infield there's definite instability at all positions that are not manned by a Canadian. So I thought I'd take a look at what could possibly be done to help this situation.
Third Base
So I was probably one of the most excited people to hear we had signed Mike Lamb, I knew he was not going to be a great defender but I figured he was a pretty sure bet to get 20 bombs and have an overall OPS of over .800 (he had an OPS over .800 3 of the past 4 years in Houston). I had been telling friends for weeks before we signed him that he could really give our offense a needed jolt from the 3B position. Now, I'm about 2 to 3 weeks from giving up on him. No matter how you cut it, there's really been no encouraging signs of improvement from Lamb. Even though his numbers have slowly been climbing since April 22nd he's managed only a .632 OPS and that's largely due to a couple of 3 hit games in the end of April. He's only had .527 OPS from April 27th to present. If he doesn't make some major changes within the next few weeks the Twins may have to cut their losses and realize they have a very expensive left handed bench bat /backup corner infielder.
Solution(s)?
My first instinct would be to try Harris out over there since it seems Gardy has given up on him at 2nd. Other than a 2 week slump the last week of April/First week of May he's hit fairly well and if you didn't know he is actually on a 5 game hitting streak but is sitting on the bench while Lamb continues to falter. I would just assume that if he can play as much as he has at 2B/SS albeit deficiently he should be able to handle 3B at least as well as Lamb while giving us a bit of an offensive upgrade there.
Then there's the option of Buscher or Macri. I would have no problem with the Twins bringing one of them up as long as that one is Buscher. The guy has only about 250 AB's at AAA but has damn near a .900 OPS over parts of two seasons. I have trouble believing he'd be a downgrade defensively from Lamb at 3B and right now you have to believe he's got a good shot at being an upgrade offensively.
The last option would be some sort of trade, however I have no clue as to who might be available and if the Twins feel it's worth it to get a better 3B when they went into the year probably not planning on contending for much. I will definitely be curious to see who mlbtraderumors puts up as he's profiling available players at each position but only has Catchers up so far.
Shortstop
Everett, well what can I say, we all expected a lot defensively and knew he would be an easy out on offense but this easy? The fact that he's hitting much worse than his already poor career numbers and has a noodle arm at SS doesn't bode well for his longevity here with the Twins. I was really hoping he'd come back and be much better after his stint on the DL but alas, he needs to be replaced sooner than later if things don't change real quick.
options?
Sadly, I believe LNP might be our starting SS within the next week or so. It pains me to say this but he may be our best option. I wouldn't mind giving Casilla some time there and see if he can somehow make it work. Watching him make the throw to 1st is a joyful experience rivaled only by Young's Ichiro like throws to the infield. So we have two mediocre at best in house options and I don't see much else.
Second Base
Here's the real tough one because with Tolbert out and Harris basically losing this position over the past few weeks I don't know what to think about it. They've been starting Casilla here the last few days but who knows how long that will continue.
Options?
Basically I see the options as being about the same as they are for SS only the possibility that maybe Everett could be moved to 2B? He's had decent range (right?) I don't get into defensive metrics, not because I don't believe in them but I haven't had time to learn much about their meanings and what's good or bad with them. This would lessen the worry of his weak arm having to throw as far but his horrible offense would still be present. I don't know of any decent options (howie clark? GAG) at AAA right now and I don't see the Twins making a trade for anyone since I'm betting they hope that Plouffe/Casilla can fill the MI roles in the near future.
Overall I'm all for working from within as best we can. The biggest move I'd like to see is Harris at 3B at the very least in a platoon situation. For his career he's heavily weighted as hitting better against Lefties even if this year's small sample size would indicate otherwise. Platoon him with Buscher or possibly Lamb and see what happens. Let Casilla stay up for a bit and see if he can turn a corner and take over a MI position. Then we can get guys like Plouffe and Hughes up to AAA and Valencia up to AA to see what they show us at another level.
-halfchest
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The madness of King Ron
I was going to write a whole diary on this, but I’ll use the existing diary to share my thoughts.
There are two schools of thought on playing time:
- Play the hot hand and let guys make their way in the major leagues
- Play the guys who are most likely to develop into good players regardless of a bad game here or there.
Gardy clearly operates under the method of #1. Dick said last night, “We’re seven weeks into the season and we have no sense of who the everyday shortstop and second baseman is.” His intent was to blame the players for not establishing themselves. But the effect is stunning: This manager cannot evaluate talent with sufficient confidence to play the best players regardless of slumps or mistakes. He will bench players for a single mistake, where they might not get another opportunity for a week.
Short of having all-star caliber players at a position, we can expect churn at the middle-infield positions as long as this manager is in charge. This instability makes failure a self-fulfilling prophecy for the most important defensive positions on the field.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on May 22, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
continuing on that note
Gardy has misguided expectations for both middle infield positions and in particular SS. He appreciates guys who were fluid like Castro or even Guzman at times, but can completely ignore things like range and arm. His two biggest things that he gets quoted on are the ability to “catch” the balls that need to be “caught” (which in itself is a terrible word to use because if you’re a middle infielder you should actually never be catching a ball in your glove, the ball should always being in transition), and the ability to turn the double play. As we all know these abilities are mainly judged on what Gardy sees with his own two eyes (rather than any sort of statistics of course) and his own misguided experience on what a middle infielder should be (probably based mainly on his failed career as a second basemen). On another note, what the hell is Gardentool’s son doing being promoted to AA over the likes of Dinkelman and Valencia?
Anyways, I have no faith in Gardy’s ability to structure a stable duo among this current group and I’m concerned that he’s hampering the development of any youngster trying to take hold of those positions (Casilla mainly at this point).
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on May 22, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Building for 2010
As far as the lack of depth, there are some prospects with some promise in the system. At this point most still have significant question marks but I have hopes for the likes of Valencia, Dinkleman and perhaps Tolleson or Hughes. Casilla and Buscher both have the ability to contribute on a major league roster. Buscher sadly was only given 82 major league at bats in 2007 to prove himself. Instead of allowing him to expand on is breakout season a judgment was made and a veteran who actually offers the exact same was what Buscher was showing offensively (i.e. decent pop with a patient approach at the plate) was brought in.
However, it would seem to be productive for this organization to continue to pawn off some of its pitching depth to acquire a sure thing for either SS or 3B. Personally I’m still drooling over the fact that Colorado still possesses both Adkins and Stewart. One of them has got to be available….
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on May 22, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tolbert & Punto
Does anyone know when they’re expected to come off the DL? I know it’ll be a while for Tolbert, since he has to have surgery, but I was thinking Punto might be ready sometime soon.
I think moving Harris to 3B makes quite a bit of sense – by all accounts, he’s an absolute butcher turning the double play at second, and I haven’t heard any glowing reviews of Lamb’s work there. I’d also like to see Buscher get a chance, but that may require DFA-ing Lamb, and I don’t know that the Twins are ready to consider that 2-year contract a sunk cost.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
by BeefMaster on May 22, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everett back to DL
Joe C is is reporting that Everett will join Punto and Tolbert on the DL, as I predicted after watching him throw the last week.
So it makes this post all the more relevant. What to do? I think it’s getting to the point where the Twins might need to make an emergency trade to acquire a guy. The thought of Tommy Watkins or Chris Basak makes me shudder. Luke Hughes and Trevor Plouffe aren’t ready. With Everett probably out for a while, the Twins need someone to play there.
Short of a trade, I guess I would move Casilla to short and call-up Hughes to give him a shot. If the Twins made a trade, I’ve heard Orlando Hudson is available.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on May 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this year is a wash anyway
when punto gets back I’d give him 2B and I’d give SS to Casilla, then Harris and Lamb can figure out 3B together. unless you’re going to get a long term option in a trade I wouldn’t bother.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on May 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Punto
I was under the impression that he would be back pretty soon. However it doesn’t sound like he will be back right away in order to replace Everett on the roster. I really wouldn’t mind them bringing up Buscher to give him a shot. They have Casilla and Harris to play short with Punto most likely coming off the DL soon to help in that area. That way we can put Lamb on the bench for an extended period and see if he can get his head clear while we give Buscher a decent amount of at bats.
I don’t see them DFA-ing Lamb because just like Beefmaster said it’s a two year contract and the Twins probably wouldn’t want to just eat all of that. As disappointing as he’s been it is only May so there’s still time for him to turn it around and start to contribute. If nothing else he sits on the bench and waits for injury or a bad slump to open the door for a 2nd chance. Worst case they could probably trade him if they’re willing to eat a bit of the contract price.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on May 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Macri
According to Gordo, the Twins are calling up Matt Macri to replace Everett.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on May 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why Macri
and not Buscher….Buscher is absolutely killing the ball and then bring up Macri? Dumb.
by 33MorneauMVP on May 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess
I’m guessing Macri has some middle infield experience, and they want to keep some flexibility up the middle.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
by BeefMaster on May 22, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Macri has MI experience
like Jeff Cirillo was a great SS option
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on May 22, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Macri hits right handed
Have you seen Mike Lamb’s line against lefties? To refresh your memory:
.053 /.053 /.105 /.158
Here’s a guy who needs a platoon partner, which Macri is. Before Tolbert got hurt, the plan was to make Tolbert the everyday second baseman and make Harris the right handed platoon for Lamb. Now Harris is needed in the middle infield, so the Twins need a right-handed platoon partner for Lamb. Macri is the most ready, in part because Hughes is hurt and Plouffe hasn’t played over there much..
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on May 22, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Lamb’s OPS against lefties would be a decent Isolated Power number.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
by BeefMaster on May 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
That’s exactly what I’d like to see, except not a straight split until Lamb can get his head straight. I’d want to see Harris hitting against some of the Righties as well. However now that it’s just Macri I think a straight split is in order
Funny thing about Lamb is that for his career he hasn’t hit that much worse against lefties. In fact last year he crushed lefties to a tune of a 1.056 OPS, but it was only in 47 AB’s. For his career he’s about 40 points better in OPS against righties so there’s definitely a difference but not as drastic as say a Craig Monroes splits.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on May 23, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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