Gomez & Stikeouts
"The first month, I struck out 24 times; I can get that to 10 [per month]," he said. "That's what I want to do. When I get on base, I change the game."
Said Twins hitting coach Joe Vavra: "That's good he's talking about it. That shows me he's getting it. ... We've been on him about cutting down his swing and trying to keep his feet underneath him."
http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/18551434.html
I've been complaining for a while that Gomez looks terrible in the batter's box, and that it was ludicrous of the team to be supporting this aggressive approach (wild swings, terrible balance, nearly jumping mid-swing). It is now my responsibility to own up to the fact that I wasn't giving management enough credit. Clearly they have been working on strikeouts and mechanics (keeping his feet underneath him). I guess this serves as a good reminder that just because someone said it for an interview, it doesn't mean that's their true opinion. Gardy was obviously just trying to show support for Gomez publicly, while working quietly behind the scenes on the areas of improvement.
Maybe this means that he doesn't really like getting Punto in their whenever he can.
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10 time sper month
If Gomez could strike out 10 times per month (60 times annualized), that would be incredible. I could definitely handle a strike out every 2-3 games.
by snolls on May 3, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see progress
He’s taking more pitches. But I’m more interested in getting on base than his strikeout totals. I’d rather he strike out on six pitches than ground out to the third baseman on the first pitch. At least Harris and Mauer get a chance to see what the pitcher throws if he has a good at bat, even if it ends in a strikeout.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on May 4, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And pitch recognition
If he’d realize he’s not going to see a 1st pitch (and probably 2nd pitch) fastball strike at least until June of 2010, he’d put it together that he’ll get better pitches to hit and/or bunt on 1-0 or 2-0 counts.
by TMW on May 4, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it just goes to show...
that its silly to think that what you read in the press is full disclosure. Stories make it in the press for a reason…
by guinness junky on May 4, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It goes to show...
that hyperbole is not just for the media. I think Gomez does a pretty good job of creating it himself.
24 strikeouts to 10? I’m glad that he sees the problem (for that I give him great credit) but it’s a lofty goal.
by Neil on May 4, 2008 2:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for sure
the goal is definitely a “reach”, but I say aim high.
I also agree that OBP is what really matters. I just think that strikeouts, among other peripherals, will be a good indicator of how he’s doing at achieving that goal. While I don’t expect him to reach base on many stirkeouts, I do expect him to beat out a lot of weak grounders to third. Secondly, better balance, and more contact will probably also mean that he is making solid contact more frequently, which would result in more normal singles, and hopefully more extra base hits.
by snolls on May 4, 2008 3:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree
that he has been making more good contact and has been taking better at bats overall (see his two walks in Friday night’s game). Once pitchers figure out they can’t just bounce them in and get him to swing, then maybe he’ll have to adjust again, but this is definitely a good start.
Delmon Young has, at times, also looked like he is trying to have better at bats. Sometimes he succeeds and sometimes he doesn’t, but I think he is pretty close to breaking out as well.
Even in spring training, Joe Vavra expressed concern about Gomez’s aggressiveness. So I read it as a difference in philosophy between the two coaches as much as anyone else (though I could be wrong). And of course Gardenhire doesn’t have to think too much about what he says because it is not his job to teach Gomez/Young how to hit.
Looking at the season right now, Gomez and Young look ripe to turn it around and get hot for a little while, and Cuddyer is certainly doing well. Which means the Twins, currently first in the division, could stay there awhile if the pitching keeps it up. Obviously, I’m not ready to say they will finish on top of the division or even .500, but they could keep it interesting into the All Star Break which is more than I thought before the season.
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by Aaron Fix on May 4, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he cuts strikeouts by 14 per month
A number of good things would happen:
1) He’d draw more walks than he does – if he “refuses” to strike out, there’ll be more “ball fours”.
2) He’d get on base by hitting the ball more – more hits, more reaching on errors, even more fielder’s choices put him on 1st base where his speed gets into the game.
3) He’d likely hit the ball harder more consistently – once pitchers learn he’ll take their pitches out of the strikezone, they’ll come into the zone to avoid walking him.
Here’s a question – we know the Twins don’t like to preach “patience” because they don’t want hitters to be passive, tentative, looking for walks; does anyone else see focusing on “cut down the strikeouts” as another way to approach the same issue?
by BD57 on May 4, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For some guys
For Gomez and Young, cutting down strikeouts is a good way to approach it. For Nick Punto, cutting down on strikeouts typically means being a little more aggressive. He takes way too many called third strikes.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on May 4, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree re: Punto
He got into “begging for walks” mode last year.
by BD57 on May 4, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vavra vs. Gardenhire
Maybe you’re right, and “cutting down on strikeouts” is code for not swinging at bad pitches. Maybe that’s the only way Vavra can teach strike zone judgment when Gardenhire is always harping on staying aggressive and not looking for walks instead of manly hits.
I remember Vavra working hard to teach Torii that he’d get better pitches to hit if he made pitchers throw strikes. I really give him the benefit of the doubt on this.
Not so sure about Gardy. But I suppose it’s possible he’s preaching strike zone judgment and patience in private, and praising aggressiveness in the media just so Delmon will feel he’s on his side. Who knows.
by by jiminy on May 6, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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