Dugout Splinters: Minnesota Twins
The following appears in the Dugout Splinters insert of GameDay for the Tuesday - Thursday series versus the Washington Nationals.
Batten Down the Hatches
This is it. We're entering that stretch of the season where the teams in the middle of the pack either make a run, fall away or, even worse, tread water. That's what the Twins did in '07, and all it did was confuse the heck out of everyone. Looking at the team as it is now, there are more than a few holes that need patching to keep the vessel afloat.
What's Working...
There are a couple of obvious positions that are pretty well afloat, and of course they're the predictable ones: catcher, first base, second base, closer. At any one time you could probably pick a pair of starting pitchers that are doing well, maybe even throw in a trio of relievers. Feeling generous? Jason Kubel's 10 homers and .758 OPS aren't horrible, so we'll count the designated hitter position as satisfactory, although he's done the best offensively while playing in left field.
What's Not Working...
Pretty much everything else. There's been a revolving door at third base and shortstop, which has netted the Twins some pretty mediocre defense, three home runs and a .239/.285/.327 line. While Brian Buscher and Matt Macri have succeeded in limited time this year, it's far too early into that experiment to deem it a successful platoon. The corner outfield positions haven't provided the power, or run production in general, that we were hoping for. Both Delmon Young and Michael Cuddyer have stepped up their contributions, but it's a long season, and they both have a long way to go. In center field, Carlos Gomez is playing good defense, but has only stolen two bases since May 11th, while getting caught five times in between. Then there's the pitching staff, which seems to leak runs at a much higher rate than Twins fans are used to. That includes the bullpen, which is going into its first home series without Juan Rincon.
Unfortunately, with the way this team is set up, there isn't a lot that can be done. There isn't any position player help to bring up, and Francisco Liriano won't resurface until after the All-Star break...unless Livan Hernandez gets traded or someone gets hurt. And those are two scenarios in their own rights. But with only one trade chip (whose stock isn't very high at the moment), it's what-you-see-is-what-you-get with the Twins. And if we're going to judge the next month and a half by what we've seen so far this season, we might be in for some stormy weather. Red sky in the morning...
Course and Heading?
If you're into the clues that will tell you where the team will be heading in the coming weeks, there are a couple of things you can be on the lookout for. First, note which major league pitcher is on the same schedule as Liriano. Liriano will be a starter when he does return, and he'll have to replace somebody. Second, make a note of how often Craig Monroe gets playing time. Denard Span is doing very well in Rochester, and if Monroe continues to struggle at the plate something might happen. Ron Gardenhire has expressed his desire to get Span onto his bench. Finally, take careful note of which relief pitchers are being put into high-leverage situations. Gardenhire manages his bullpen very well when there's a hierarchy, even if it's predictable, so look for him to establish roles. Matt Guerrier, Jesse Crain and Dennys Reyes have decent numbers, but the results of his choices will also determine the back-end of the bullpen...and that's where the questions lie.
All-Stars: Who Should Go?
With the game less than a month away, it's a good time to start discussing potential representatives for the All-Star game. At its best, balloting for the mid-summer classic is a popularity contest. At it's worst, it can be seen as an exhibition in ignorance. While Joe Mauer trailed Boston backstop Jason Varitek by less than 41,000 votes on Monday, it was Ivan Rodriguez who came in third place for catchers. He of the .262/.304/.366 line is somehow beating out great seasons from Dioner Navarro (.327/.363/.446), Gerald Laird (.293/.351/.425) and A.J. Pierzynski (.301/.344/.437). Does it make sense? I'm not sure, but I'd love for you to tell me the last time All-Star voting got it right, because I'm clueless.
It's also fair to argue that you'd rather see names you recognize on the roster, which makes complete sense. Why vote for someone you've never heard of? But then we're getting into a completely different realm of questions having to deal with why exactly we vote for who we vote for. If you're voting for I-Rod over Navarro, it can only be because you recognize his name, and so you're voting him in based on the merits of his distinguished career. But is that how we vote? Are we voting for guys with great careers? Or are we voting for guys having great seasons?
So when you're sitting in your seats this month and someone comes by and hands out a fist full of ballots, ask them what we're supposed to be voting on. Ask your neighbor. Start a debate. It's baseball, and that's part of the fun!
ON THE HILL
Tuesday: Livan Hernandez (6-4, 5.84 ERA)
- ¨ 2008: 89.1 IP, 136 H, 28 K, 15 BB, 13 HR
- ¨ 2007: 11-11, 4.93 ERA, 204.1 IP, 247 H, 34 HR
- ¨ Fastball, changeup, curveball, slider
- ¨ Hernandez hasn't gone longer than six innings OR allowed fewer than five runs since May 17th.
- ¨ Don't let the ERA splits fool you (4.67 home, 7.00 away); the only real difference in the Dome is that he gets more ground ball outs. He's still being hit just as hard, and opponents are still reaching base just as often.
- ¨ That's the thing with Livan-it's not just how often he gets hit, but HOW he gets hit.
- ¨ The Twins need him to have a good start if they want to get back any trade value.
Wednesday: Kevin Slowey (3-6, 4.70 ERA)
- ¨ 2008: 51.2 IP, 52 H, 35 K, 7 BB, 9 HR
- ¨ 2007: 4-1, 4.73 ERA, 66.2 IP, 82 H, 47 K, 11 BB, 16 HR
- ¨ Fastball, changeup, curveball, slider
- ¨ After a brief bump in the road on June 8th, Slowey got back on track in his last start, going eight innings and allowing just a pair of runs.
- ¨ Slowey was actually "stronger" as his last outing went along-his first fastball was clocked at 89, his final one clocked at 93.
Thursday: Glen Perkins (2-2, 4.57 ERA)
- ¨ 2008: 45.1 IP, 59 H, 27 K, 12 BB, 8 HR
- ¨ 2007: 0-0, 3.14 ERA, 28.2 IP, 23 H, 20 K, 12 BB
- ¨ Fastball, changeup, curve/slurve
- ¨ Perkins notched his first quality starts in four chances his last time out, lasting six innings in Milwaukee.
- ¨ He doesn't get many ground balls, and hitters square up well on his stuff, but if he can keep the ball in the park and the defense keeps the miscues to a minimum, he'll mitigate the damage.
- ¨ While he doesn't throw the breaking ball(s) as often as his fastball/changeup combo, they're vitally important to his success. He'll need to throw them for strikes.
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Casilla
Not to be too critical, but I expected some mention of Casilla in the “what’s working” category. When a kid’s hitting .318/367/.458 with an RBI every four at bats and great defense up the middle, he’s clearly working.
Also, the Baker, Blackburn, Perkins, Slowey combo is working pretty well. Justin Morneau is certainly working, as is Joe Mauer. Throw in Breslow, Crain, Guerrier and Nathan, and you have a lot of stuff working.
I’m just surprised that, asked what is working, you only chose to single out Jason Kubel, who’s eighth in batting average, tenth in OBP, sixth in slugging, fifth in total bases, fifth in runs scored, second in RBI, tied for first in homers and has only played defense in a half a dozen games all year. He can’t be the only thing that’s working.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 17, 2008 12:27 AM EDT 0 recs
Jason Kubel
He’s been really good for the last month now. His line for the last month is as follows :
.301 .393 .559 .952
Really he was just uneasy that first month striking out way more times than he walked which is uncharacteristic for him. He went from a 24/3 K/BB the first 1 1/2 months to a 16/14 rate this past month. I see a lot of people talking about him needing to turn it around but to me it looks like he already has it’s just taking time for his all around numbers to look better. The Kubel we all wanted free is back and hopefully here to stay.
I have to echo cmath in the pitching department as well. I think our fab four are doing quite well. They’ve each had a few bumps in the road but overall have gone out there and pitched well enough to give the team a good shot at winning every time they go out.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jun 17, 2008 3:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Not exactly...
As of yesterday, the Twins were 27th in baseball in runs allowed. That’s a far cry from giving the team a shot to win every time they go out.
There have been solid pitching performances from most of our starting rotation at one point or another this year, but they’ve never put together a streak that really speaks volumes about their talent. I stand by my statement that, at any one time, a pair of them are doing well. I’m not saying that it’s time to make changes or that they’re underperforming expectations, but the proof is in the numbers—since the Twins started scoring (as of yesterday, 11th in baseball in scoring), the pitching has been inconsistent at best.
For better or worse I do consider myself an optimist, but the Twins have some very large holes from a team perspective in 2008. Moving forward I’m much more confident about the talent of this team and where it can take us, but Splinters is more series-specific. The Twins need to course correct or they’ll go under.
by Jesse on
Jun 17, 2008 6:04 AM EDT
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True
I guess I wasn’t very specific but I was just talking about the foursome of Baker, Slowey, Perkins, and Blackburn. If you throw in Livan, Boof, and Liriano + some of the bullpen blunderers that’s why we’re 27th in Runs allowed.
While the four I mentioned above have pitched 234 innings and allowed 108 earned runs (4.15 ERA) Livan, Boof, and Lirano(the only other starters this year) have pitched only 174 innings and allowed 132 earned runs for a beautiful 6.82 ERA.
My point was just that those other four are pitching quite well, maybe not dominant but I do believe they’re giving the team a good chance to win almost every time they go out there. Looking at their game logs it seems like their biggest problem is just consistently getting into at least the 7th inning. A lot of 5 to 5.2 IP games in there which is just annoying to see. Hopefully we’ll see a bit more of that come the second half.
As far as course correcting it seems like that is underway with the Buscher/Macri promotions. MI is tough but we’ve got 3 of them on the DL. Now we just need to get rid of Livan (did someone say franchise?) and hope that the bullpen can rebound now that they’ve cut some dead weight. I’m still not expecting this team to contend but hopefully they can at least make the obvious moves like they already did with Rincon.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on
Jun 17, 2008 7:22 AM EDT
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jesse
They may be 27th, but how many times have they pitched 5-6 innings and given up 2-4 runs?
the 27th spot can be attributed more to a few players and a few bad starts. Boof, Livan and Rincon. Boof more because of inherited runners scored but still those 3 have accounted for a large part of the reason why we are 27th.
How does our bench stack up against the rest of the league. we have done a decent job of dealing with the injuries so depth has to be included in whats gone right this year.
by doofus on Jun 17, 2008 7:23 AM EDT 0 recs
Evolution
I think the raw pitching numbers are deceiving. Livan and Rincon account for at least 10 slots in the rankings. One is gone, and I expect the other to be gone soon. My point is, the Twins have a chance to be much better in the pitching department in the second half simply because the dead weight will be gone and the guys they bring in to replace them (Liriano, et al) should at least be solid if not spectacular.
As I mentioned, eight of the twelve pitchers on the staff are doing well. If we can get that ratio up by simply getting rid of the guys who are struggling and backfilling with some of our organizational depth, the pitching will be a strength of this team.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 17, 2008 9:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Realistically, more has gone right than wrong
The Twins have lost Santana, Silva, Bonser, et al, from last year’s rotation, plus now Rincon and Neshek in the Pen. That’s a lot of innings, key innings, against good hitting teams, on the road, in games they have to win.
For the most part, the newcomers have held their own. We gotta remember that this is a young staff now and the key is to grow it, to put them in situations where they learn, figure out how to pitch.
Bonser is a real disappointment, but every ML team has players who go up and down from one year to the next, with some who never get back on the beam. That’s how this game goes.
I think we’ve also filled some lineup holes in Gomez, Young, Casilla and Kubel. Mauer and Morneau are quietly having all-star years. You can’t fault the offense too much, being above league average in runs scored, but finding the next two pieces, at short and at third will be crucial.
Still, in all, considering what we lost from last year, we are within a couple of positions of being solid for many years to come. That’s not too bad for a team that looked to be without any minor league help at this time last year.
Sure the pitching will struggle at times, but by this time next year, I’m thinking Slowey, Blackburn, Baker and Liriano will be a nice quartet to throw out there every four days.
by Old Twins Cap on Jun 17, 2008 9:47 AM EDT 0 recs
Perkins
No love for Perkins?
I’m not saying I love him or anything but he’s shown enough that he could very easily be the 5th in that spot, and truly a pretty good pitcher for the 5 slot.
Maybe you’re just a realist though, and you know that no matter what we have the Twins will find an excuse to sign a “trusty” veteran.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on
Jun 17, 2008 10:45 AM EDT
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Book is out on Perkins
He’s still young and has decent stuff. I like how he will pitch inside, but, he does get hit hard on a regular basis. Between him, Duensing, Robertson, Manship and the Mets refugees, we will be able to fill that 5th spot. But, it is just the 5th spot. I like how the top 4 are shaping up at this point.
by Old Twins Cap on
Jun 17, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
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That's what's so beautiful
The Twins Farm system is so deep in pitching right now that we have so many guys to choose from. A decent bunch of these guys will be going to the pen and Perkins might be perfect for that. I’d assume there’s a good chance Reyes is gone next year so the team could have a little more balance bullpen with Breslow and Perkins as their lefties. Two guys who can get guys out on both sides of the plate.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on
Jun 17, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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Perkins
I’m encouraged by how he’s pitched. He has good stuff and good control. He makes a few mistakes here and there, but that’s all part of the learning process. You can tell whether he will be successful in the first inning. If he gets the inside corner called, he can keep the right handers honest without falling behind in the count. Once he’s ahead, he can use his good change and curve ball to get them to swing and miss or hit weak grounders.
To me, the only thing that can unseat Perkins is a dominant guy from the minors. Duensing is a Perkins clone at best. Mulvey is a Slowey clone at best. Humber could be decent if his elbow gets healthy, but that’s a big if. Swarzak has a chance to be better than all those guys, but he’s not consistent. Manship is a Baker clone, so he might have the best shot in a year or so. Robertson and Guerra are a couple of years away at best.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 17, 2008 12:22 PM EDT 0 recs
Perkins
Perkins looks hittable. This is strictly an observational post. His pitches don’t look hard, they don’t look like they break spectacularly, and they don’t look deceiving. When people swing they appear to make contact, and they frequently appear to hit the ball very hard.
I’m not convinced that Perkins is more than a #5 starter. I’m not saying he’s bad, just that I hope we have better prospects lined up to take his spot. I think that we are unlikely to have a true #1 in the next few years (Santana, Becket, Webb, etc.), and that our strength in pitching will have to come from having no weak spots in the rotation.
by snolls on Jun 17, 2008 2:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Perkins has been hittable.
27.7% line drives, only around 30% ground balls, 1.59 HR/9, 1.57 WHIP. He’s still been effective, considering those numbers.
by Jesse on
Jun 17, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
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This is one reason you look at peripherals
It may indicate that he isn’t likely to keep it up. Or it may indicate that he does something else well, which isn’t reflected in his peripherals. I wonder if he had these kinds of statistics when he was successful in the minors.
by snolls on
Jun 17, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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94 but straight
He can throw hard, it just doesn’t have the movement of, say, a Liriano fastball. So he’s more hittable if they know what’s coming. The key for him is keeping them off balance, which he’s still learning to do.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
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Jun 17, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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