Young Arms Coming Up Big for Minnesota
Originally posted by me at RealGM
The three anchors of the Minnesota Twin's starting rotation are all in their mid-20's. Nick Blackburn, Glen Perkins, and Kevin Slowey are a combined 8-8, but have an ERA of 3.26 in a total of 21 starts in 2008. The rest of the pitchers who have made starts this year for the Twins are Livan Hernandez, Francisco Liriano, Scott Baker, and Boof Bonser. They have a 10-11 combined record to go along with a bloated 5.41 ERA in 32 starts.
The puerile trio: Blackburn, Perkins, and Slowey had a rough start to the season but have since rebounded fantastically. In their last nine starts they are 5-2 with an outstanding 2.03 ERA. This stretch includes two complete game attempts, with one ending better than the other.
Nick Blackburn recently completed eight innings while not allowing a base runner past second base. He eventually gave up one run in the ninth but completed the best pitched game by a Twin's pitcher yet this year.
The primary reason behind these young pitchers' success? Pin-point precision.
The three have issued a superb 21 walks through 21 starts and have a remarkable 78 strike outs. That is a ratio of 3.71 K/BB and is higher than Daisuke Matsuzaka, Brandon Webb, Carlos Zambrano, and Joe Saunders.
The three also have a combined WHIP (walks plus hits per innings pitched) of just 1.194.
Like stated before, these three have heated up in the month of May after an ordinary April. They couldn't have chosen a better time. The Detroit Tigers are struggling, and the Cleveland Indians are totally falling apart. The wonderful pitching of these three hurlers has helped tremendously in keeping the Twins within striking distance of the red-hot Chicago White Sox.
These three shouldn't be named All-Stars yet as it has only been a month, albeit a dazzling month. It's not like anybody knew these players were good. Granted, Perkins didn't have the best of success pitching in a relief role with Minnesota, but both Blackburn and Slowey were highly touted as minor leaguers. Slowey was the Twin's minor league pitcher of the year in 2007, and Blackburn was named Minnesota's best prospect by BaseballAmerica going into 2008.
Some may say that a lackluster Twin's offense will be the demise of Perkins, Blackburn, and Slowey. Minnesota does not have a history of power hitters and are known for their offensive ineptitude around the league. This year, though, the whole team is on a mission to throw off that tag.
Nobody gave the Twins a real shot going into the 2008 season, but this trio of talent is out to prove otherwise. If they can continue to anchor this young team, there is no reason why the Minnesota Twins cannot win a division title.
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Baker
Those three have been impressive for sure, but I’m hard pressed to throw Baker in the same lot as Hernandez and Bonser. Baker was dominating when he was healthy. His K/BB and WHIP numbers are in line with the other guys. His ERA of 4.09 while, not stunning is solid and would probably be lower if not for the 2 shortened starts dealing with the groin. This has also been a a very unfortunate year for Baker to say the least. The flu through spring training cannot be blamed on him and it’s hard to blame him for the groin pull either. As Anderson put it, Baker probably works the hardest and stays in the best shape of all the current pitchers.
Going into the following months will sure be interesting. With Baker, Blackburn, Slowey and Perkins there’s a good shot of rolling out some real quality starts day in and day out. Baker should definitely be fresh and I’m confident Slowey and Blackburn will continue to eat innings. It will be interesting to see how long it will take for Perkins to run out of gas, as it’s been awhile since he’s logged some innings. Liriano could also boost things along at some point, although I’d be hard pressed to say he’ll still be in the rotation at the end of the year.
If the hitting continues to improve this will be an interesting year. Cuddyer and Lamb continue to improve. Kowbell needs to continue to step up. Young needs to stop swinging like a little girl. And some determination will have to be made about the SS situation.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on
Jun 4, 2008 5:39 PM EDT
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Bonser and Perkins
Tonight was sort of the exact opposite of what you wrote
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by Aaron Fix on
Jun 5, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
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Yeah...
Not too good for me…but I’ll take it in stride for the team. :d
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by Andersklasen on
Jun 5, 2008 12:24 AM EDT
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While perhaps not a fair parallel--
—I can’t help but think of the mid-1980s Twins, who were starved for pitching but deep in hitters. Baseball America assured all that help was on the way with the trio of Steve Gasser, Jeff Baumgarner and Toby Nivens. The knowledgeable folks at Baseball America always liked to give ETAs in the big leagues, and of course provided us with such for all three.
We’re still waiting for just one of them to toss a pitch in the big leagues. At least one of them must be a grandfather by now.
So don’t get too excited, even though this trio has at least made it to The Show, and Blackburn sure does look like a real live, honest-to-God pitcher.
by Johnny Safron on
Jun 5, 2008 1:26 AM EDT
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Tired
I know the GBN comparison is a note of caution on young pitchers. But it’s a tired one. As far as I can tell, the Twins have not had three such highly rated pitchers fail at the same time for 25 years. We’ve had one or two at a time, but not three.The most recent comparable is Mahomes and Rodriguez in the 90s.
I like to use the rule of thirds. Two out of three highly rated pitchers take the next step. And the percentage increases considerably after a certain amount of success at the major league level. So if you have three highly rated pitchers at AAA, odds are two of them will succeed at the majors. There is strength in numbers, and the Twins have a lot of highly rated pitchers relative to other organizations.
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by cmathewson on
Jun 5, 2008 9:11 AM EDT
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2/3
I’d prefer if it were the rule of four thirds, but if its a rule its a rule.
by snolls on
Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM EDT
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Funny stuff
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by cmathewson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:53 PM EDT
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Lots of tired things on this board
Gasser, Baumbarner and Nivens isn’t one of them.
But let’s freshen it up for the single weary contributor here.
Todd Ritchie, Dan Serafini and Dave Stevens. Ranked 2-5-6 among top Twins’ prospects in ‘94.
If that one bores you as well, I can provide more.
by Johnny Safron on
Jun 6, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
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No all busts
Ritchie won 43 games at the MLB level.
Serafini pitched 253 innings out of various bullpens in the majors.
Stevens pitched 251 major league innings with 15 saves.
None of the three had what I would label as good careers, and certainly not with the Twins. But they don’t qualify as Gasser, Baumgartner and Nivens style busts either.
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by cmathewson on
Jun 6, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
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That square peg doesn't fit the round hole
They were all busts for the Twins, and given Ritchie was a No. 2 prospect, he was a bust even if you consider his entire career. You really had to pick and choose on the stats you listed above, and even those stats are so lame that they don’t make a case.
But, of course, the original thread clearly centered on Twins prospects and what they eventually did for the Twins. These men did nothing. Zip. 0-for-3.
Anyone would have to really, really be trying to put a square peg in a round hole to suggest any of these guys was worth a crap. And that “Ritchie won 43 games at the MLB level” argument is a tired one. He won nothing for Minnesota. Zero. Bfffft.
The Twins, in fact, released him after a terrible 100 innings over two seasons. He then embarked on his potholed career of 43-54 4.71 ERA. Save for one year with Pittsburgh, he couldn’t keep his ERA under league average, and mostly he couldn’t keep it close to league average. And five wins a year for 8 years isn’t much of a career for a No. 1 pick, 12th overall in the nation.
Hell, Pat Mahomes had a winning career, a longer career, won one less game than Ritchie, and we all know he was a bust.
Serafini averaged fewer than 40 innings per season in the majors. His career ERA was over 6. Same for Stevens on the ERA. You heard of replacement level? These guys were not close.
All three were busts for the Twins. None of these men would not be a player whom anyone would consider to have been a success.
by Johnny Safron on
Jun 6, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
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The Twinsmade a mistake in releasing Ritchie
They all admitted it the year following his release. He wasn’t that bad as the long man out of the bullpen. If blogs had existed back then, that was one move I would have railed against.
And, no, I don’t want a piece of you.
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by cmathewson on
Jun 6, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
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Relevance
I’ll probably regret this, as you’ll provide your usual snide comments to an innocent question. But, so? Why is the failure of Dave Stevens or Steve Gasser or Dan Serafini relevant to the Twins situation right now? Are you saying that all these kids will end up like Dan Serafini? Some of them? What’s your prediction?
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by cmathewson on
Jun 6, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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On the original topic of the post
Glen Perkins cannot be described as an “anchor” of the rotation. He could not be described as such even before yesterday’s horrendous start. Given his strong start, I guess I can see calling Blackburn an anchor. I’d take Livan, Baker, Bonser and Liriano over Perkins at this point.
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by Aaron Fix on
Jun 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t at all. I would take Perkins over both Livan and Boof right now. Give me Baker, Liriano, and Perkins any day. Add in Blackburn and Slowey and you have a great, young rotation.
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by Andersklasen on
Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM EDT
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