Game 95: Twins @ Tigers
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers, Jul 13, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
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Good lineup today.
I like that Gardy isn’t pulling up short just because the ‘break is tomorrow. Full speed ahead, hawking for the win. I like it.
Mike Lamb is starting, which make me curious more than anything else. I’m wondering if this is it for him…
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lamb Starting
I really think this is being done to Shop him in some sort of way, i really think you could Package Lamb and a prospect or two to get an Adrian Beltre or a solid 3rd baseman in here.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those would
have to be two incredibly prospects. Especially if the Twins would want Seattle to eat some of the contract.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well We could
Package Brian Dinkelman secondbaseman from New Britian as part of that deal….seeing is that we are set for the future with Alexi Casilla at the Major League Level and Sergio Santos/Trevore Plouffe/ and Alejandro Machado stored away at rochester.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to be pessimistic when
talking about deals for established MLB players, meaning I expect more in a return than might be realistic. If you saw the series I did when discussing what I’d want from the Mets/Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers in return for Santana, I was looking for a whole lot more than what we got. I just imagine other teams would be wanting the same for their established players.
So you might be right, and Dinkelman might be tantalizing to them. But to me, how he’s doing at AA isn’t inspiring:
Ft. Myers: 313/399/414
New Britain: 211/274/250
Dinkelman is 24, has a good walk rate, a career minor league OBP of 364 which isn’t bad for a middle infielder, but none of it makes him a top prospect…which is really what the Mariners would need as a centerpiece of any trade. I really think the Twins would need to pick someone much more highly touted than Brian.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Reason Lamb is in the Lineup according to Lavelle E Neal III.
Mike Lamb is in the lineup as the desginated hitter. He’s 5 for his last 7 against Justin Verlander.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that THE reason?
Why can’t anyone in the entire Twins organization explain something about sample size to Gardenhire?
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not
http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/neal/2008/07/13/twins-tigers-a-brush-up-on-geese-relations/
Gardy has previously made some horrible lineup decision based on small sample size flukes, but nothing in the LEN3 article suggests that this is the case this time.
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not TOO upset about this one today.
The Twins have some big decisions coming up. Liriano, Cuddyer, Tolbert…they’re all getting ready to get back to the big team. I’m feeling positive today, so I have faith that the Twins will do the right thing and swallow up some cash for the sake of a better team. This should include a DFA of Mike Lamb.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Tiger radio announcers
are saying that the Twins have discussed using a 6-man rotation, so that they could bring Liriano up.
Can anyone confirm this? It seems like a waste.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes They are talking about that...
Paul Molitor was on KFAN’s Show with Dan Berrerio on friday and had mentioned that their is some internal discussion about this, that they are waiting to see how Liriano does in his next start to seriously talk about this idea….
I dont see this Happening, if they do call up Liriano, Look for Boof, Breslow or Bass or Lamb to be Traded or released. to be DFA’d, Perkins or Slowey moved to Long Relief Role, and Liriano take that starting positionPosition.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Perk and Slowey
stay in the rotation, they’re doing fine. If anyone gets removed, it really needs to be Hernandez.
Here’s an idea: Bring up Liriano, move Hernandez into the pen as the long reliever. They’d have to do something with Bass or Bonser, but they’d also be able to hang onto Hernadez (for whatever reason but it’s clear they want to), but that also puts your five best starters into the rotation while maintaining someone who could come in multiple times a week to cushion the bullpen.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think
Livan can be Moved to Long Relief easily, Livan has been a starter his entire career, Eats Innings, i think Gardy would keep him in the rotation.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
whole idea disturbs me. I think you’re right, and that’s exactly why it disturbs me.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol....
I really Think when you look at it in the End, the Twins Made a Mistake going out and getting Hernandez, which is hard to say because theirs nobody else other than Liriano who could make an impact on that rotation right away, you look at it, Boof Sucks, Kevin Mulvey, Brian Duensing and Phillip Humber arent Major league Ready, Danny Graves might have been that 5th pitcher, its a very touchy subject when you figure out the rotation.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gladden and Gordon
are insisting Morneau kept his foot on the bag. Is anyone watching this?
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He clearly kept his foot on the bag
It was an awful call.
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now it costs them.
Thanks a bunch, stupid umpires.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-0, Tigers.
Clete Thomas with a two-run blast.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not
so pissed about the first base umpire blowing that call (although he should have gotten it right) but for all the other umpires to not “see” anything is absolutely unexceptable.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go
2nd time through the lineup let’s give’em hell now.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice Hit Justin!
Lets Get atleast 1 of these Runs Back!
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Was Great
Made Me Spit my Pepsi out at the Computer, Great Work Man.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that!
WP by Verlander, Mauer scores, Morneau to third!
2-1, Tigers.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NICE AT BAT
That was a great at bat, way to get us a little closer to the Tiger bullpen Kubes
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great AB by Kubs
that was one helluva AB. he fought off the fastballs that he didnt like and ended up drawing a walk on a curve.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harris
Beautiful at bat again. Damn near every Twins batter has been down 0-2 this inning and fought back. So sayeth Dick and Bert.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow..
...Harris comes up big AGAIN. I’ve been much impressed with him at the plate these last two days.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harris
who can stop this little man? 5-6 since yesterday with 5 RBI! Stay hot Harris!!!
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh
and Morneau once again claims the batting title for the Twins. Morneau at .324 Mauer is way back there at .323
It would really be interesting what would happen if on the last day the finished in a dead tie for the batting crown…that would really be interesting!!!!
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
Come on Buscher, gotta get a hit their
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lamb
come on Lamb chops lets go…..RBI hit here put us up!
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alas
Guillen likes to eat Lamb chops so we stay tied.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least
its tied.
Anybody got a pic of a Lamb? FAIL!
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do we
do these picture things? Whenever I try to do it it always puts the link and not the picture
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next to the bold/italics/strikethrough buttons...
...on the right there’s a pic of a tree. Click on that and insert your link. When you hit ‘Post’, the pic should show up.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
use the HTML code, not the Image code. try making an account on Photobucket.com, its easy.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you probably are all far more savvy than I,
but for you troglodytes here is how I have to do it:
find a picture,
right click on it,
clicl on “properties”
cut the entire “URL”
go back to this website and click the little tree icon, backspace the http: prompt and;
then click paste.
Yes, you computer guys can laugh at me for the long explanation, but I am just trying to help those who are as Ludditic as I am.
by montanatwinsfan on Jul 13, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's Verlanders pitch count?
He damn near doubled it that inning I bet. A long one like that especially takes it out of a guy rather than a bunch of slightly large innings. He looked filthy the first time through and I was worried we were going to see an amazing performance for the wrong guy today. Let’s keep it going next inning.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clete Thomas with a good game.
2-run bomb and a 1-out double here in the bottom of the 4th.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
apparently
not on the bases though….he needs to hit more homers because he cant run the bases very well.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CF circus
Carlos Gomez, it has been mathematically proved: The shortest route between two points on a plane surface is the straight line segment between those points. Please, use this knowledge in the field.
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In his defense
I heard the announcers say how windy it is and the ball is taking some crazy curves once it’s in the air
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is
very windy there….look at the flags. I have seen Kubel take some “bad routes” but it is only because the wind is creating havoc.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and..
Buscher runs him back and tags him out….
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blackburn K's Santiago to end the inning..
...still 2-2 after four.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
These day games don’t work for me.
At least I didn’t wake up to a blow out.
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
...I love the day games, because I can actually be awake while I watch them! It’s only 7:30pm here…
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's handy to not
have to stay up until 3am…
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true.
Do you have TiVO or something for the night games?
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can usually
access condensed footage from MLB.tv, or else I just stay up.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn...just one...
Polanco slides into Harris, they can’t get enough on the through to get Guillen.
First and third, one down for Miguel Cabrera. Ish.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THROW. Not through.
I’m embarassed for myself.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warblegarbl
This is frustrating for the defense.
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harris dives, knocks the ball to Casilla...
...Casilla turns it to first to get the out, but Granderson scores.
3-1, Tigers.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Focus, Blackburn....
...can’t having another one of those.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wild pitch doesn't equal focus
come on Nick
by caluofmn on Jul 13, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep barking, Joyce...
...they’ll expand the strike zone for you.
by Jesse on Jul 13, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought we might be getting to him
I thought that maybe we were gonna be able to put some more good at bats together but man he just destroyed us two innings in a row. Looks like we’ll be seeing him in the 7th if not longer.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are we happy with Morneau being in the HRD?
I don’t believe all the stuff about it throwing off power numbers..
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus
The AL is going to get their asses kicked in the derby. I’d take Uggla, Braun, Berkman, and Utley over Hamilton, Morneau, Sizemore, and Longoria.
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH, Gomez AGAIN!
0-4!
by montanatwinsfan on Jul 13, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Theory
Maybe Gomez just loves to field so much that he wants to end the Twins’ offensive half-innings as quickly as possible.
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's Morneau time so we kinda need it to be...
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Positive note
It’s nice that Jim Leyland via the IBB is giving back all the runs that Gomez has cost the Twins in the series.
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Explanation
The intentional base on balls almost always hurts the defending team (in terms of expected runs and adjusted for hitter quality). I haven’t seen Leyland use the strategy correctly once in this series, and he has used it A LOT.
by PhoenixV on Jul 13, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bass is coming on
Hey Kobe, how’s my bass taste?
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Gomez is injured
Problem solved when Cuddyer comes back!
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what so now we want Gomez to get hurt...thats bogus
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not injured
And I was kidding, seriously you’d think I’d want any player to get injured?
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Bass Gives up a Home Run and Gomez is Limping, Bass needs to be Cut.
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kubel
Can’t blame him for hacking at that pitch, just got a little bit too underneath it. It’s nice that Todd Jones is the most overrated closer in baseball
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jones
is the most overrated closer but we also have our “bad” section of the lineup due up….
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not even mad at Bass
I’m mad at Gardy deciding it’s a good idea to use him in a one run game when we’ve got a four day break coming up and the bullpen should get used
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we could trade Bass
to the Tigers, he might make a good closer (Todd Jones 5.04 ERA)
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would do it....do you think that the Tigers would swap a Baby Ruth bar for Bass? or maybe we could get a trout...
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe they would trade the goose AND the trout
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Dont Think
The Tigers would Swap a Salami Sandwich for Brian Bass let alone a Goose and a Trout LOL
by Tony_O on Jul 13, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Land of 10K Lakes
I figure we already have enough fish in this part of the country why not get some red meat. Maybe a nice package of Tbones
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game was close
Enter Brian Bass
Game is not so close anymore
Exit Brian Bass
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure Todd Jones may not be a good closer
But that handlebar mustache is awesome.
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and this bad closer
is making the Twins look worse. He is mowing us down.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GARDY
PINCH HIT. MIKE LAMB IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION LATE IN THE GAME WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
y’all enjoy the All-Star break and HR derby. Hopefully Morneau’s swing doesnt get screwed up again.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still
taking 3 out of 4 in Detroit is pretty damn good. We’ve smothered them in the season series and only have 3 games left and they’re all at the dome. We lost a couple close ones in Boston overall you can’t be too upset with a 3-4 road trip against the teams we were up against.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jul 13, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple close ones
and a beating
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 13, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who
is going to do the FIRST HALF REVIEW??? Jesse?
by 33MorneauMVP on Jul 13, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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