The Official Trade Deadline Thread
by nathaneide on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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Print2:45 pm: Absolutely nothing coming across the wire. It does sound like Luke Hughes will be promoted to Rochester. Huzzah!
1:15 pm: Sounds like it's Jose Castillo the Twins are interested in...not Rich Aurilia. This news comes from the San Francisco Chronicle, via LEN III. Castillo, 27, is hitting .258/.308/.407. He better have one hell of a glove if this is who we're going after. Primarily he was a second baseman from '04 through '06, '07 saw him transition to third, where we've seen him play a majority of his defensive innings in '08.
12:55 pm: About 30 minutes ago, La Velle updated his blog. He says the Twins are trying to get Liriano up here asap, but if they can't make a move before 3 pm CST they'll have to look at another avenue to make that happen. Meanwhile, while there's still a" little bit" of interest in Boof Bonser out there somewhere, it was the Giants dangling Aurilia...not the Twins calling San Francisco.
12:05 pm: Silence. Maybe it's just lunch time?
11:20 am: Tim Dierkes at MLB Trade Rumors recaps what Joe C. and LEN III have told us over the last 18 hours.
10:25 am: From LEN III this morning, the Twins won't move any of Blackburn, Perkins, Baker, Slowey or Span for Adrian Beltre. The talks aren't dead, but there may be no middle ground. Also, Howard Sinker would like the Twins to get Jason Bay.
10:15 am: From LEN III last night, both the Rangers and the Giants have interest in Bonser. The Giants allegedly had a scout at the game last night. Also, Tampa Bay has been scouting Craig Monroe.
Umm, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Oh, what? The Twins won't make a move?
Why make a trade when Cuddy's on his way back? That's like making a trade right there! That's the Twins way.
In fact, we as fans should be happy that the team is playing better than expected and just be content with being in contention. That's the Twins Way!
And when they do make a move, it will be this year's version of Phil Nevin or Bret Boone? That's the Twins Way!
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if anything happens.
Note by Jesse, 10:05 am...
Twins Deadline Primer
Twins position targets: Third Base, Middle Infield, Middle Relief
25-Man Roster Bait: Boof Bonser, Livan Hernandez, Craig Monroe, Mike Lamb
Prospect Bait: Speculative
Third Base Targets: Adrian Beltre, Bill Hall, Garrett Atkins, Rich Aurilia
Second Base Targets: Mark Grudzielanek, Rich Aurilia, Brian Roberts
Relief Targets: Unknown
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Griffey trade
Anyone word on what the Sox are giving up? My guess would be Brian Anderson and a couple arms? They don’t have much left in the farm system.
Sounds like
Richar: 25 year old middle infielder, .744 OPS in AAA for the Sox this year. A career .288/.339/.440 hitter in the minors, prior to this year he’d been a good on-base guy with doubles power. I’d doubt his power potential in the majors, but he could be a versatile bench player.
Masset’s in his second season with the Sox, gives up a lot of hits, a lot of walks, and doesn’t strike enough people out to counteract any of it. He’s 26.
Hell if that’s all it took to get Griffey, maybe we could have gotten him for Monroe, Macri and Toby Gardenhire.
I am
I am surprised Brian Anderson was not part of a package for Griffey, unless he is involved with a package for Street. it seems to me the Sox have soured on him
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Monroe and Bass
I think Monroe and Bass are pretty comparable to Richar and Massett. Basically, guys who have very little value and probably never will have much. But, the Twins don’t have any real need for Griffey.
I'd rather
have Griffey than Monroe. In October, I’d trust Griffey’s “extra gear” over Monroe’s at the plate.
I'd say
I’d say it’s more like Perkins and Tolbert.
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ESPN.com reports...
...that the A’s are unlikely to make any more deals and executives say there is less that a 1% chance anything happens.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
here
here is my guess:
Boof gets traded for a mid level prospect. No one that can help right away. But that leaves room for Liriano to come up, and Perkins goes to the bullpen
if that doesnt happen, nothing will get done, and Bass or Boof will be sent out to Roch (if they make it through waivers) and Liriano will come up
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
I do think Bonser will at least be traded. There are reports that Texas is interested, so there would be no reason not to move him.
We need to add a bat today…
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
Lets not forget...
Parrish was waived by the wild, and bought out…so he is no longer a hit on the cap, nor an asset to try and move.
What? Twins?? Oh, sorry…wrong sport.
I think they won't do anything
which will be frustrating at some level, since other teams seem to be able to get things done. Though I’m unclear on how Griffey works for the Sox—they can’t possibly be thinking of playing him in center, are they?
One of the things LaVelle wrote irritates be a little, though who knows what the details are. He said the Twins won’t give up one of their rotation pitchers for Beltre, which I think is a mistake-if I could get him for Blackburn, I’d absolutely do that-Blackburn’s results are better than he is.
Howard suggested an absurd Span, Slowey and Kubel for Bay trade—silly. Twins can’t do that.
by Eric in Madison on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
Blackburn has a 4.27 xFIP
And a 3.69 ERA. So yeah, his results have been a little better than how he’s pitched, but that’s still pretty good for someone who is under team control for the next five years and costs essentially nothing for the next two. Perkins, on the other hand, has a 4.87 xFIP and more injury concerns, so I value him much less than Blackburn.
Maybe the
Maybe the Twins are working on something. I like the way the keep the front office keeps thier trade options close to the vest as possible.
I know the twins won’t do anything major at the deadline, so I usually don’t get all worked up over not getting anyone. And hey, if something happens, I’ll be more than estatic
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
True.
I’m still holding my breath for Brian Roberts and Garrett Atkins. But that’s just me.
There’s a lot of driftwood on the roster right now, some of it worse than others.
driftwood
yep, there is. But, in Billy Smith’s first year, he cant cut everyone and start over in one year. Some of it is his problem (Monroe, Livan)
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d take Aurilia, but if the Twins swung a deal and surprised us with someone like Atkins that would be awesome.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I would
as would CarterHayes prefer Ian Stewart. He has better potential than Atkins (who only hits at Coors) and is a better defender supposedly.
Either way, it would be a great fit and upgrade depending on who we get.
I wonder
I wonder how much work gets done around offices today?
I bet the sports websites like espn.com and such get heavy web traffic on days like this. not as big as the NCAA tournament, but I bet its a spike from normal
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
We're getting a huge spike.
On most weeks TT gets 4000-4500 unique visits. In the last seven days we’re over 6000…end of day today, the last seven days should be around (or higher than) 7000.
Adam Dunn
could apparently be had for Jeff Niemann (25, MLB) and Jeremy Hellickson (21, AA). They’re both strikeout pitchers, at least in the minors—do the Twins have anyone to match them?
from
from what I remember from the SBNation rys blog, the people there seem to like Hellickson a lot. I havent been there in a while. The comment section got real chaotic when the team started to win
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure.
Hellickson is a really nice pitching prospect. He’s only done ok so far in AA, but that should be expected for a 21 year old making his first stop there. He dominated A+ with an 83/5 K/BB ratio. I think it would be tough for the Twins to match that deal.
to match...
I think it’d take something like this:
Kevin Mulvey or Brian Duensing (something in between there I’d say)
Tyler Robertson
Robertson and Hellickson are very similar. And Niemann is the equivalent of Brian Duensing, only Duensing hasn’t had the success Niemann has had in his 2nd year in the IL.
Is a Duensing/Mulvey/Swarzak/ and Robertson deal a fit for two months of Adam Dunn? I’d assume no since that’s not something the Twins generally do. However, if they have an inkling that they can sign him long term, they’d be fools not to do that trade imo. As much as I like Mulvey & Robertson, I’m worried about Robertson’s mechanics eventually injuring him and I really like Mulvey, but neither will help the team within the next couple years and the Twins have good enough pitching depth in the minors to absorb something like this.
Just look in 3 or so years….
Baker
Liriano
Blackburn
Slowey
Perkins
Swarzak
Mulvey
Robertson
Burnett
Hunt
McCardell
anyone else have a good shot of reaching the majors that I’m forgetting?
and I’m sure another pitcher or two will pop up by then…
Point is, the Twins should not be afraid to deal pitching prospects. But I don’t blame them if they feel there is no chance of re-signing Dunn.
Progress always involves taking risks. You can't steal second base and keep your foot on first. ~ Frederick B. Wilcox
by Joshs Thoughts on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
a lot of
a lot of people seem to be high on Deolis Guerra, although he is having a down year
good stuff Josh
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I really
I really want Manny in Florida.
GET THE DEAL DONE PEOPLE!
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
That trade, as rumored, would improve the Red Sox
As it stands now, Bay is more valuable than Manny. By VORP, Manny’s only been about 5 runs better at the plate, while Bay is conservatively about 10 runs better than Manny in the field, and probably closer to 10-20. Plus, a Jason Bay extension sets the Sox up for the future much better than a declining Manny extension would.
Manny
from Jon Heyman at SI.com
12:19 p.m.
Ebattled superstar Manny Ramirez has approved a trade to the Marlins, SI.com has learned. While the Red Sox, Marlins and Pirates are still negotiating details of the mega-trade and nothing has been finalized by the teams, one major hurdle has been cleared by Ramirez accepting the deal ahead of time, according to people familiar with the negotiations. The Red Sox approached Ramirez in advance of their negotiations, and got his OK. Ramirez signed off on the paperwork, contingent upon the two $20-million team options for 2009 and ‘10 being dropped. The move will set the stage for Ramirez to become a free agent this winter, assuming a trade can be completed by the three teams.
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
also from heyman
The Mariners’ agreement to send reliever Arthur Rhodes to the Marlins may be giving the Yankees hope that perhaps Seattle will also relent and agree to trade Jarrod Washburn to the Yankees. Word is, Hernandez was on the table for weeks. Perhaps the Mariners will also relent on Washburn. The Yankees have generously offered to pick up the rest of the $14 million remaining on Washburn’s contract through 2009 while sending them a middling prospect. Seattle has been calling around to try to beat that, but the suspicion is they won’t. So maybe the Yankees will get Washburn after all.
maybe Im looking to much into it, but if the Yanks are hoping the price is coming down on Washburn, combine that with LaVelles notes about the Twins for Beltre note still talking, maybe the price comes down for Beltre
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
Two different reports...
ESPN.com reports that a Manny deal is nealry dead after the Marlins asked for $9 million. Meanwhile, FOXSPORTS.com reports that the deal is taking off and Manny has agreed to a deal.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
LOL.
No surprise there.
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Buster Olney and Steve Phillips both agree on SportsCenter that the deal doesn’t do much for the White Sox since they want him to play center. They said it’ll mean a platoon of Konerko and Swisher at first.
Olney also said it doesn’t move them anymore ahead of the Twins because they are expected to recall Liriano.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
3 hours
to go. Will the Twins pull off a deal? Will they sit on their hands and see if we can make it with what we have right now? Will we make room for Liriano? Will Bonser go to SF for Aurilia (replacement 2B/3B)?
It doesn’t seem like much is happening anywhere. I expect things to start to heat up. If the Twins don’t at least move Boof I’ll be upset.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitching Depth Problem
The problem were dealing with right now is that we aren’t exactly brimming with tradabable assets. Granted we have a ton of depth in the minors, the problem being that none of the high minors depth (the ones that tend to be the most attractive) is really blowing anyone away. At this point, if we want to make a run at things we need Baker, Slowey, Perkins, Blackburn and Liriano. As pointed out already by the Beltre to the Twins rumors, were not willing to give those guys up. We do have starters like Duensing, Mulvey, Humber, Swarzak, Mullins and Bonser and Bass for that matter. But none of those guys are doing much and it’s unlike the organization to trade really young talent without trying to realize their potential.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
La Velle just reported that the Giants are dangling Aurilia and not the other way around. Wouldn’t a Bonser for Aurilia deal be interesting?
And, he said again that the Twins appear to really want to get Liriano up ASAP.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
I hope it's Liriano as a starter
Since Perkins and Liriano both had semi-recent arm issues I wouldn’t mess with things by moving them to the bullpen. Course I’d most prefer ditching Hernandez, but that seems unlikely.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Jul 31, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It does sound like it’d be as a starter.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Rotoworld is reporting that the White Sox are close to getting John Lannan from the Nationals.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Ozzie
Wants to make sure he can beat us with as many lefties as possible
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Jul 31, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
SFGate.com
Reports that the Twins and Giants are talking, and the player the Twins want is second basemen Jose Castillo.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
IDK, they made it sound like they played him at second so the Twins could see him there. I think he’d come over to play second and not third. We’ll see…
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo?
I wasn’t familiar with the guy, so I looked him up. He’s righthanded and plays third base. He also has a career OPS under 700 (slightly over 700 against lefties). Unless he’s Brooks Robinson in the field, I don’t see the point, unless they think Casilla is done for the year and nobody else on the roster can play second base (so Punto would have no backup).
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Castillo
NOT WORTH IT.
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Agreed
yuck yuck, might as well stick with what we got
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d take him for Bonser though. He can’t be a worse hitter than Everett and we’re not going to get a bunch for Bonser and his 8.00+ ERA.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Perkins
I’m not a HUGE Glen Perkins fan anyway, so I’d be all for him going in a Beltre deal.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Perkins
His success this year is a bit surprising considering the numbers but I’d like to think he’ll continue to improve. In the minors he had a much higher strikeout rate and a much lower bating average against. Obviously those numbers have been quite different for him starting this year in the majors so I would think they’ll get better as he continues to work on his stuff. Plus he’s a local boy, not to the extent that Mauer gets hyped up. But still.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Jul 31, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
BFD
BIG. FREAKING. SURPRISE.
I think I’ll go have a heart attack and die from that surprise…
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Next thing we'll hear
Is how much Manny loves Boston and is excited to be with them through the rest of the year. Same old, same old. I wouldn’t be surprised if this annual tantrum is part of Manny’s contract, just so the Red Sox can get all the attention heading their way.
Good for him
The only hole in his offensive game is that he strikes out a bit much. I know he’s defensively versatile so he’ll have to find a home soon.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Jul 31, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny Updates - Really the only good story so far
From Jon Heyman at SI.com (2:32 p.m.): The potential blockbuster trade that would have sent embattled Boston slugger Manny Ramirez to the Marlins has hit a snag, but the Red Sox are now talking to the Los Angeles Dodgers, as well, SI.com has learned. The Dodgers have offered young outfielder Andre Ethier, but Boston is believed to prefer Matt Kemp. The Marlins deal isn’t believed to be dead, but it appears Florida was unhappy with one or more aspects of the potential blockbuster.
From the Globe’s Gordon Edes (2:19 p.m.): Less than 2 hours before the trading deadline, the Red Sox were still trying to make this 3-way deal with the Pirates and Marlins work, but as one source said, “They’re not going to be stupid about it.” At the moment, the deal would require the Red Sox to include prospects as well as Manny Ramirez and the $7 million remaining on his 2008 salary, a price the Sox appear unwilling tto pay at this time. Another industry source said within the last 10 minutes that he thinks talks will go down to the 4 p.m. deadline.
From the Globe’s Nick Cafardo (2:05 p.m.): Reports are beginning to surface that the three-way deal for Manny Ramirez is dead or close to dead, but I’m not buying it. The same snags exist now that existed this morning, and there’s still time to work them out before the 4 p.m. deadline. Also, according to a source, Manny is spending the day shopping in Boston, relaxing and waiting like the rest of us. He is anxious to where he may be playing Friday.
Jason Bay Traded to the Rays
MLB.com’s Bill Chastain with the scoop – the Rays have acquired Jason Bay for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann. The Rays haven’t confirmed it yet though.
I'm a fan of this trade.
I LOVE Jason Bay for some reason.. him and Roy Halladay are my favorite present day players
by CARXRiedmann on Jul 31, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
30 min
and we have yet to receive word on wether our boys on the front line have survived this drastic day….
count me in
Roberts would be great!!!! Span, Roberts, Mauer, Morneau!!!! Great top half and then Gomez being the third “leadoff” batter batting 9th! If Casilla comes back in 2 weeks, we can cut the dead weight (Everett, Lamb) and put Casilla at SS!
Imagine:
Span- RF
Roberts – 2B
Mauer – C
Morneau – 1B
Young – LF
Kubel – DH
Buscher/Harris – 3B
Casilla – SS
Gomez – CF
19 min
and counting. It is very tense here in MN as we wait to hear how our boys are doing and wether they will return triumphant.
18 min
the Twins are not going to do jack!
there is no Shanon Stewart this year. And for some reason I want them to win w/ what they have… minus Everett and plus Casilla if possible
An interesting idea...
Buster Olney posited this on his trade blog:
“With the trade deadline closing in on teams, the options for adding pitching will diminish. But one of those options could be veteran pitcher Freddy Garcia, who is a free agent.
Garcia’s agent, Peter Greenberg, said Thursday afternoon that Garcia likely will throw for scouts on Aug. 18 and 19, with the hope of signing a deal and helping a team down the stretch. Days are quickly coming off the calendar, but Greenberg said that Garcia is working out and working on his arm strength and that “he’s excited about where he’s at.”
Would the twins be interested in Garcia?
No reason
Just might be fun to see him against the White Sox, that’s all.
You’re all correct.. it would be dumb.
Yeah
The fact that it’s a dumb possibility makes it likely to happen with the Twins.
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by Andersklasen on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That would mean you would have to remove two pitchers from the rotation. Only one is worth removing.
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by Andersklasen on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saw something about Swisher to the Nationals on another blog for those two rumored pitchers…
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
I think because of Girffey. Otherwise he’d need to platoon at first. I haven’t seen it on ESPN or anything so I’m not sure if it’s true.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
that trade does not make sense
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, the Rays/Bay deal is not done as reported:
A high level Rays official denied that a deal for Jason Bay with the Pirates was done.One lone MLB.com beat reporter is still the only one saying that a deal is done, while many others are saying talks are still ongoing. According to the previous report, Bay is on the way to Tampa Bay for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
BREAKING NEWS
The Twins have just completed a blockbuster deal, just five minutes before the deadline. The Twins will send Boof Bonser and Livan Hernandez to the Mariners for Adrian Beltre. The Twins will be paying the entirety of the remainder of Beltre’s contract, receiving no aid from Seattle.
per my twisted mind.
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My watch
says one minute. It must be off…?
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by Andersklasen on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
2 minutes...
Trades get reported after the deadline usually, so something for Bonser could be possible.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
Deal could happen without us knowing for a bit
Smaller deals don’t neccesarily get leaked out until later
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
3:00
ding dong
the clock strikes 12
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
And the Twins concede the division...
...maybe…
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by Andersklasen on Jul 31, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and
there is still nothing coming over the waves…have our boys forgotten about their nervous friends back at home to not let us know?
Matt Tolbert started swining a bat today according to the STrib.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I'm out...
It’s time to go sit on the ground and cry. I’ll see you guys later.
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The Star Tribune didn’t really give us any good updates this year on how talks were going. It was pretty disappointing to see…
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
I have no idea. It’s making me pretty made though, because the traffics was pretty crazy today.
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
maybe the front office did not leak any info to them
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
check out
check out the fan post. Terry Ryan talks about the trade deadline
http://www.twinkietown.com/2008/7/31/583869/terry-ryan-talks-about-wha
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Manny
Manny to the Dodgers, Bay to the Red Sox in a three way deal
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Link Please?
I just wanna see what else is involved. That’s crazy a Manny trade finally happened
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
well
if nothing else…this is what will happen if there were no trades (which it looks like there werent.)
Bonser/Bass is sent through waivers.
Liriano is called up.
Go Bucs
Wow. The Pirates made out like absolute bandits. I’m gonna brush up on their org. because they could be really, really good in two years.
as per SI.com
Manny to the Dodgers
Bay to the Sox
Pirates get Brendon Moss and Craig Hansen from teh Sox, and Adam LaRoche from teh Dodgers and other prospects are involved, I guess
by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jul 31, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
It’s actually Adam’s brother Andy that they got…
by Twins Territory on Jul 31, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they both now play for the Pirates organization though…
by Twins Territory on Aug 1, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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