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Game 117: Twins @ Royals

Minnesota Twins at Kansas City Royals, Aug 10, 2008 2:10 PM EDT


Pregame

Thanks again to Tony_O who picked up the slack and ran a game thread over in the FanPosts section last night.  We had some power issues last night, which left me sans internet for most of yesterday afternoon and through last night.  But we're back!

Looking to avoid a sweep at home, Kansas City is sending out Gil Meche.  Meche is coming off four consecutive quality starts, and is the owner of 14 on the season.    He's been better overall since leaving the Mariners, mainly due to decreased walk and home run rates.  Usually he'll walk a pair, but if he isn't able to locate his fastball and is forced to deal more breaking balls he will work longer counts, and in those situations you never know what can happen.  His ground ball/fly ball ratios are pretty close to 1:1

Scott Baker will try to close out the sweep for the Twins, who hasn't been on his game recently.  He owns one quality start in his last five, and because he's a bit weaker on the road than he is at home, we could be in for a bumpy afternoon.  On the other hand, it's been a while since we've truly seen Baker clicking on all cylinders, which means he might be due.  I'd like to see him go seven innings this afternoon, shutting down the Royals and allowing only a run or two.

Versus a right-handed pitcher, the Twins will likely send out:  Span (RF), Punto (2B), Redmond (C), Morneau (1B), Kubel (DH), Young (LF), Buscher (3B), Everett (SS), Gomez (CF)

For the revamping Royals versus Scott Baker I'll predict:  Aviles (SS), DeJesus (CF), Teahen (RF), Guillen (DH), Butler (1B), Gordon (3B), Buck (C), Gload (LF), German (2B)




W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Gil Meche 10-9 24 24 0 0 0 0 146.2 142 70 68 14 51 115 4.17 1.32


W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Scott Baker 7-3 18 18 0 0 0 0 107.1 103 46 46 17 23 93 3.86 1.17

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Everett

Without Mauer in the lineup, I’d like to see Harris at SS. Baker tends to deal more flyballs so I’ll take the decreased defense. Idk… it’s been pretty painful having Everett, Gomez, Span and Punto (and now Redmond) all in a row with ducks on the pond and all we need is a big double or a HR to seal the deal.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm just hoping we

can get Casilla back for the end of the year. Punto’s killing the top of the lineup now, he’s had a rough month. On July 11 he was hitting 324/383/471, how he’s dropped to 268/328/393. He’s 12-for-66 in that span: 182/239/273.

I think he’s the best man for the job right now, I just think Casilla’s offensive value in the 2-hole is really missed right now.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed x10

Casilla is better able to work counts in his favor than Punto. Punto’s idea of taking pitches is not swinging at fastballs right down the middle and getting himself in the whole. Casilla takes bad pitches and fouls off tough pitches, basically the works until a pitcher makes a mistake. Anyways, Punto I think is in over his head in the 2 hole whereas when he hits 8th he becomes more of an afterthought for pitchers and can burn them more often.

It will be interesting too see if Hughes will make an appearance this year depending on whether Casilla can work through his injury or how long we can survive with the equivalent of a National League pitcher hitting in the 8 hole. Obviously Hughes could be a difference maker at the plate, but I know the defense is not as solid.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen.

A guy on the strib blog was talking about punto having bood ABs and getting deep into counts. I was like “what have you been watching?” CASE IN POINT, STRIKE ONE TO LNP.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting lineup

No Gomez, Mauer playing the afternoon game before a big series VS the Yanks, Lamb at 1st with Justin getting the DH duties, Everett batting 9th.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's complete the sweep!!

I’m looking forward to this one today…hopefully the Sox can fall again today too. Time to open this division up…

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

STRIKE TWO.

Nicky, at least Gomez COULD hit it.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Listening on the radio

John sounds a bit hoarse.

I’m not a huge fan of Gladden’s announcing (mostly because I think he’s miscast as a play-by-play man during the middle innings), but he’s a lot better than Morris.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Aug 10, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

i like gladden

as a color man. sometimes his stories are interesting, and on occasion he does have some interesting insights as to why things are happening the way they are on the field, but i agree with you—he’s miscast as a play-by-play guy.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

twins punchless in the 1st

Let’s go Baker, have a great game!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Morris is awful.

It’s almost bizarre that he has a job. Unless one looks at the state of baseball announcing generally. Then I just wish he was worse so he’d at least be a Character.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

J-Mo works a walk to lead off the 2nd...

let’s get a rally going here, let’s go KUBES.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Pridie.

Pridie’s struck out twice today. 8 pitch at bat. 9 pitch at bat. Hmmm.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Hard to get upset at that.

Seeing 17 pitches, forcing the pitcher to work that hard for two outs is a good thing.

Of course, overall Pridie’s strikeouts are way out of proportion. But day-by-day, I don’t mind a guy striking out twice if he’s working those types of plate appearances.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everett AGAIN looks better than NOGO!

I guess when he’s going good he strikes out on 8 pitches. But he’s seemingly ALWAYS gonna strikeout.

Prediction: Lamb is just fine the rest of the way.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Positives for Mike Lamb:

He hits .287 on the road.

WOOT.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Lamb works a walk on 8 pitches. Good work.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice slapper to right,

Lamb takes third….runners on the corners, no outs.

Big bat Adam Everett digging in…

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Fire Gardy.

Way to give up an out, Gardy.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Atta boy Everett!!!!

Comes through with a big single, 1-0, Twins!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice take, Nicky.

Hey, you remembered to SWING at the ptich down the heart.

Hey Dick, the reason he’s “always behind in the count” is because he takes strike after strike.

CASE IN POINT

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Sac bunts

don’t always bother me, except I’m not sure doing it this early in the game is a good idea. Not with Punto coming up.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Mauer: BB

Bases juiced for the Canuk.

Let’s go Justin!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

WALK 'EM IN, MECHE!!

Morneau gets pitched around, in comes Buscher.

2-0, Twins.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Boo...

...Kubel fouls out, leaves the bases full.

That was quick.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flailed at the change up

bit surprised he didn’t wait for something middle in, he usually gets one in that situation

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Dick

They all threw strikes to begin with.

Thank you Bert.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Big play by Everett, maybe he might of use to us yet

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Everett

is a Decent Pick up, He had great Defense and can provide a little pop off the bat every now and then.

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

havent' seen range at SS like that

since the days of Jason Bartlett

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Ft. Myers

Sosa keeps on sucking and it’s now 10-9 Ft. Myers in the top fo the 6th.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

poor guy

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

same spot Rainville is in now

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys were chatting up Pridie earlier

Obviously the guys aware of his plate discipline deficiencies and maybe that’s the last skill for him to develop. He does appear to be working on it now in August (6 BB, 4 SO) after going 26/2 K/BB in July. He’ll probably always prefer to swing the bat, but when your down in AAA you can afford to work on those skills. Cough.. cough… Gomez. Cough… Young. Sorry allergies there. And in fairness the Wings are facing Gorzelanney from the Pirates who is a nasty lefty.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

yup.

and his have been the best ABs for the Red Wings today, even though they both ended in Ks.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen

seems like one of those guys who loses something when he’s on a losing team. When he’s on a winning team, or at least a competetive one, it seems like he’s a fairly complete offensive weapon. But there have been a couple of seasons, like this one, where it’s like he just gets up there and hacks to boost his totals. His lines are suffering this year as a result.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

if the Royals were planning on having a veteran leader there, fat chance. Typically not the type of guy the Twins go for though he’d probably compliment this current team fairly well, whether he worked in the club house or not.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto saved

I say he strikes out anyway.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

it’s getting ugly man. But remember he never brings his offensive struggles on the field. Expect an unnecessary flailing dive at the next ball hit to him.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's called hustle, case.

We need battlers. And husters.

Just not hitters.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay

This Cellular field thing is getting absolutely ridiculous. Pale hose with another 3 homeruns today.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Everybody start rolling on the floor with laughter

Hernandez gives up 4 earned runs on 5 hits and a walk in the first inning of Colorado debut

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet!

No visible offensive transition for this kid coming into AAA ball. His confidence has got to be tremendous right now.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was silly...

...but maybe they do have to start to think about him before expansion. I’m not saying now, but if he’s going good right before the deadline, why not?

BAKER!!! YEAH!

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have high

hopes for him. He seemed to just come from nowhere this year, and now he’s on everybody’s radar. If he can keep hitting in August like he’s done all year, I’d be excited to see him in Sept.

Even if we don’t see him, he’s just put himself into the plans for the Twins somewhere along the line. Great, great season.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to wonder

He’s not listed to be very big. I’m wondering if he’s like a Ryan Braun type where he gets good leverage from an upper cut swing.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

There was a report on MiLB (i think) from the BP for the futures game where all the scouts were dazzled by Hughes and said he had a great uppercut swing.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting question

Would he rank as a top 5 Twins prospect after the season?

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think hes #2 Behind Ben Revere.

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long K and short K

end the 5th for Bakes…five innings, no runs so far. But he definitely ran his pitch count up that inning.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad too

would be nice to have gotten 8 innings, 7 is still in the picture though

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Due Up:

Mauer, Morneau, Kubel

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully they can put a few more on the board

It’d be nice to get a healthy lead so we can use Bass instead of our real relievers come the 8th and 9th.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Remember

The People Over At the Strib use to Call Livan hernandez, Livantana…wonder what they think now.

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

For real?

Were they active or recovering heroin users?

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mauer

having a day off at the plate. Looks like he’s trying to walk as if hitting it would be too much work. lol

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

Young… this kid just reeks of inconsistency right now. Pathetic at bats again today

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.

First pitch, rolls over into a double play.

C’mon Delmon, you’re better than this…

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

I haven’t seen it.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plate discipline

has been just as bad as Gomez but he gets away with more because he’s a stronger kid

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate

that he’s regressed from an okay season last year in Tampa

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not too much though

Delmon ‘07: 288/316/408
Delmon ‘08: 290/338/395

For all the complaints we have about his lack of power, he didn’t flash much last year, either. His walk rates are up, with K rates are down, and at this point if he has one stellar week whatever regression there is would disappear.

His main problem is that he’s just too aggressive. But he’s good at making contact, even on pitches he shouldn’t have swung at, so we see him roll over on horrible pitches and ground out weakly. We’ve seen glimpses of the right things at the plate, he just has a long ways to go yet…

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I think we all tend to forget that he, like Gomez is only 22 it’s just that with all the hype that once surrounded Delmon we expect him to be Miggy Cabrera. I don’t know how many of us have seen him hit his homeruns but I’ve witnessed a couple and damn he doesn’t even look like he’s swinging that hard, if he can get a little more discipline he could become a dangerous hitter.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's regressed

He had a horrible first month or two but since then he’s been a pretty good hitter. He’s got over an .800 OPS since Gardy decided it was time for Delmon to stop chasing Cal Ripken. He still takes some bad plate appearances but I think he’s improving a bit and I definitely can’t say he’s regressed. Overall from last year he has about the same batting average improved 22 points in OBP and dropped 13 in SLG. If you look at his numbers post his break in the end of may he’s hit .321 .355 .458 .813

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

K, I guess I over exaggerate on him

the power concerns me I guess, because that’s what we need bringing him here. 40 doubles and a dozen HRs last year, I don’t think he’ll get there this year

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meche

Pretty much duplicated his last game against Boston thus far. Served up some walks and some singles but has kept the damage to a minimum

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

What a waste of a great opportunity.

Two on, nobody out and they squander the chance.

Time to buckle down, Baker.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

That’s Twins Baseball!

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baker

Having one of those days where it seems he prefers throwing from the stretch. I think he gets more movement on his pitches or something.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Delaney and Slama

I noticed they’ve been walking guys more often lately, I wonder if they just have to make it interesting for themselves.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Livan

He has now eaten a full 2 1/3 innings. 6 hits, 4 bb, 6 runs, 0 k.

by Hoya on Aug 10, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

another home run given up by livan. 9-0 in the 3rd.

by Hoya on Aug 10, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's crap

Blyleven is hinting that was Baker’s fault. That’s all on Punto, and I thought he never brought his head case on to the field.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

In all seriousness though

We’ve wasted opportunities offensively all series and we’re lucky we’re facing the Royals.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Won't cut it come tomorrow

against the Yankees

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's get Gload

and put this inning to bed.

Ug-ly.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!!!

INNING OVER!!!

Phew….seriously. Baker leaves with a ND, 2 runs through six.

Too bad the Twins didn’t capitalize on their opportunities earlier.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's get some runs

Give him a win

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buscher

Actually burned Meche both times on curves

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Hells yes

Adam Everett!!! I mean Adam Everett???? what the hell, I’ll take it.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Know were scrapping the bottom of the barrel

when we’re counting on Everett to be the offensive hero. talk about the team of 25 players

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Everett vs. Gomez

Everett has looked much more like a major league hitter than Gomez has. I’m not saying he has anywhere near the talent, I’m just saying he’s a pro, whereas Gomez needs to be playing AA.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Everett

actually a gamer today

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everett

understands situational hitting, and it’s hard to argue the fact that he just knows the game better than Gomez at this point. Those things don’t always lead to success, but they don’t hurt. And considering how they’ve both played at the plate, if Everett is healthy then he’s much better than his numbers have shown him to be so far. He’ll never match Gomez for talent, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Everett finishes the season hitting .230 or .240, which would constitute a drastic improvement.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Sox Score, 6-4 Chi-Sox, 1 out, runners on the corners, top 6

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

oh god

LNP!!!!!!!!!!!!! yea!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Did someone say

Pinch hitter??? please?

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw Baker has his arm wrapped up

They must be planning on bringing him out for the 7th.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

What's his pitch count?

He has to be around 92-95 by now, right?

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

somebodies gotta take the lead on this staff

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ft myers

10-10 in the 10th.

Slama: 2 IP, 4 Ks, 2 BBs, no hits or runs.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather

he kept the bat on his shoulder in this situation and hope for a walk. If he strikes out looking again, at least it wouldn’t be a DP.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah!!!

Just keep bringing it kid

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!

Punto walks!!

One out, Mauer and Morneau due up….let’s do it this time!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Twins

Time to put the nail in the coffin and stop patronizing this terrible Royals team

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Twins

Time to put the nail in the coffin and stop patronizing this terrible Royals team

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

LOOGY no longer works on Mauer

actually significantly better vs lefties this year believe it or not

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baker

Has 92 pitches and although both runs were earned that was kind of a freak play that got the 1st run and the guy to 3rd. I hope they send him out for one more but I could see them not now that the top half of the 7th is going long.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

rochester final

6-4 Indy final in Rochester.

Brock Peterson 0-4. Hughes 2-4 double, home run. Pridie 1-4 3Ks.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Peterson

When did he get promoted to Rochester?

by Hoya on Aug 10, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must have been yesterday or this morning.

Rochester was short on position players….I think Roger mentioned something about this in his minor league update yesterday.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

i hate “productive outs”, somebody just smack a double

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Kubel

Sadly reminding me of Gomez today

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

brutal

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Rough day for Kubel.

He’s just saving it all for the Yankees.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully

although knowing Gardy he’ll probably bench him

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

having jason bay...

behind morneau wouldn’t have helped at all, huh?

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

unfortunately

We didn’t have a Manny Ramirez + prospects to give up for him

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

Trading a Guy like Dinkelman and Pridie or Swazark could have brought bay here

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

But trading Gomez + Duensing/Swarzak or Kubel would’ve.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Outfield

Not knowing Cuddy would break his foot it would have made sense for the Twins to trade an outfielder for him. He’s under control for one more year and with the emergence of Span + our insane outfield depth I would have been willing to part with Gomez. However, that’s easy to say with how Gomez has hit lately.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Respectfully

I disagree.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Baker does too.

I think he wants these opportunities.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just said on the telly

That Twins pitchers have only gotten 4 outs (now 5) in the 7th inning in August. Yuck

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith: 2B

That’s his second one today. Baker’s up to 101 pitches, he can’t be long for this game…

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Aviles: GO

Okay, one more to go. Get thru 7, Scottie!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Ft. Myers

Nothing in the top of the 11th

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon lil Mortal Combat action

Finish Him!

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

One more K

Let’s make it a K per inning today. Get ‘em BAker

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Too Bad

like to see some 93 mph juice

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Red Sox White Sox

Bases loaded one out in the 6th for the Red Sox. Lowell up with Bay on deck

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

B

utiful

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

u kidding?

World Series Champions my arse

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slider

haven’t seen that one much to the lefties, probably wasn’t expecting it

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

DAMNIT

Lowell grounds into double play

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

YEAH BAKER!!!

Great inning for him, absolutely great inning.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Certainly an epic battle

Next time he comes into that situation, would like to see him take the next step and retire them in order

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Span, Punto, Mauer

Let’s put up a crooked number, boys.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Crooked Numbers?

It should already be 10-2, kind of late for it now

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not with

Guerrier’s overused noodle

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's coming in?

Crain? Guerrier? Reyes? Maybe Nathan for a 2 inning save? Did anyone see who was warming up?

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Breslow and Guerrier during the 7th

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Would prefer for

Crain and Guerrier to switch places for awhile in terms of pecking order in the bullpen

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Guerrier is too hittable right now

Crain at least can make me feel warm and fuzzy with the 96 mph gas

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

Crain has been pretty damn solid all year they must still be worried about him getting injured. If Gardy doesn’t watch it he won’t have Guerrier for much longer either.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a missed opportunity for sure

still worried about losing Bass for whatever reason

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Auspicious start...

...Teahen sneaks on with an infield single.

C’mon Guerrier, lock it up!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Better get Nathan up

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it may have never been offered

But damn I wish we had Ellsbury in center and Masterson in our bullpen right now.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson would definetely stay a started with us

Nobody has the balls like Theo Epstein when it comes to determining roles on a baseball team

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm okay with Gomez over Ellsbury.

Maybe I’ve downed a little Kool-Aid, but I think Gomez has a higher ceiling. Ellsbury, age 24 this year: 271/333/377…nothing special. I think Gomez will be better than that by the time he’s 24.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta start taking some steps forward in development

but I certainly agree

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I’m just saying this year, it’d be nice to have that vs. Gomez’s OBP + a bullpen arm that could help now.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guerrier

We’ve seen this story before, our set up men should be filing a class action lawsuit against Gardy right now

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

You'd think he'd recognize

the signs of fatigue after dealing with Neshek at the end of last season. I know his other alternatives aren’t top-of-the-class relievers, but there are other choices.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Good thing Bonser stepped up

yesterday otherwise this bullpen would be in the same shape it was after the Mariners series: reeling

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Sarasota wins

11-10 in 11

Beloit trails Peoria 7-5 bottom 6. Only 5 hits for the Snappers. No Revere.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

NATHAN NATHAN

Seriously Gardy or was that all talk?

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Right now

I’d have Ricky Barrett meeting us in the Twin Cities

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

We should be just as harsh on the offense today though too

This game should not be this close

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

regressing to the mean

As good as this offense has been with RISP we have to expect a few games like this.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but this is also a bad team we’re facing

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

It was also against their best pitcher who has been dominating some great lineups lately. CWS, Boston, Tampa

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crain

Does anyone have any idea why he hasn’t used Crain a little bit more? I don’t think Crain has pitched in this series and given how he’s done most of the year I have to wonder why they wouldn’t use him at the top of this inning.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Bass

should’ve had the chance to pitch 2 innings today

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT???

Maybe in Rochester

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

he says that

because this offense should have scored 8-10 runs today.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for clarifying

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

I’m a little slow, I was wondering what the hell you were thinking

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

i would be too

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baker's gotta feel let down

after how he worked so hard to push it for the team in the 7th

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Boston's last chance coming up.

Top of the 9th is starting in Chicago.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Just

put the ball in the air, it’ll drift over the fence

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crain again

I told you so haha one pitch one out

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Twins don't take a lead

here he’d better come out to pitch the 9th.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure nice

to abuse the bullpen the day before facing the Yankees for 3 games

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of groundballs, fair amount of K's

Don’t know why he’s not the 8th inning guy right now, even if it can only be every other night

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

I’ve been seriously confused at the underuse of Crain, especially since he’s over a year removed from surguery and hasn’t had any setbacks.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soria

has dominated the Twins if I remember right, hopefully Mauer and Morneau gained some insider information from the All-Star game

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me hurry things along

Punto: K’d

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh

here comes the slow curve

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know your sucking it up

When an entire fan base knows what pitch he’s throwing

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

Plus the wrong colored Sox just won the game.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta win this

to keep our .5 game lead

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Central Divison

Both teams are enduring some serious flaws right now, it’ll just depend on who can grind it out come the last week of September I think.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wild Card

Pretty clear at this point the wild card will come from the East

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

I feel like I keep disagreeing and nitpicking but if the Twins lose today they’re 1.5 games out of the wildcard and the White Sox are only 1 out right now with the Yankees 3.5 back.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though...

I’ve already made the call to Ricky Barrett if I’m the Twins

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Gomez.

I’d be interested to see what he has to offer as well.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, definitely barret

WAY better numbers (the ones that matter).

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been too hittable

according to his stats anyways, just seems like another guy who’d make us all nervous. never seen him live though, so couldn’t be sure

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barrett

Actually better vs right-handed hitters, which is what we need right now. A guy who can throw an entire inning of scoreless baseball.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not prone to knee-jerk reactions

But Bass is just a wasted spot on the roster right now

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wild Card

I wouldnt give the wild card to the east yet. Boston isnt exactly tearing it up right now. If the Twins pull out a win today we are just a 1/2 game behind Boston.

by .mnqwerd on Aug 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hells YES

That’s my horse. Seriously maybe this will get Gardy to put Crain in there during the 8th more often.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Crain

Should get the nod after tonight for the immediate future, considering the Twins aren’t as ready to move Bass as we are.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Maier: K'd

Crain, 1.1 IP, 0 R, 13 pitches.

Well done, sir.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

He can dominate

with the fastball and slider and then every once in a while that buckler curveball. Hey! That’s what Bonser could be… lol… sorry I’m tooting my own horn on that one.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

12 strikes, 1 ball

3 up 3 down. impressive inning.

by Hoya on Aug 10, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Due up:

Mauer, Morneau, Gomez

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomez / Barrett

Barrett has a much better K rate but walks more . Overall they both have similar WHIP. I say go with the guy with more K’s and that’s Barrett.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody want to see Ruiz?

Just for the hell of it i guess….

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

he was actually hitting righties better than lefties in AAA, not by much though obviously

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call.

I forgot about him, but then what do they do about the outfield, Punto to center again? then Harris at 2B?

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHIP????

Hits are a function of not striking people out (controllable) and batting average on balls in play (more or less not controllable assuming basic mlb quality). Gomez’s traditional numbers (ERA) are VERY lucky.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

Bummer….there was nobody like Chef and his chocolate salty balls

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Relatives found Hayes unconscious in his home next to a still-running treadmill.

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

this is brutal to watch

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I know

Let’s watch every pitch go right by us Twins

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

NOGO!

He has no idea what he’s doing.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Him and Punto

Are both head cases right now

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same stuff with Young

Nice looking swing and he had a beat on it, he just never puts any charge into the ball

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

Who do we replace him with? Pridie strikes out just as much, no wait, I think more at a lower level than Gomez. I just see no viable replacement for him as of right now.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pridie

Might be the better option to open the season with the Twins in 2009, but I don’t think he’s better than Gomez right now

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say.

Send Gomez to the fall league and see if he can learn a little bit more patience, if not then yes, send him to AAA at the beginning of next year with Span starting in Center

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but

Pridie also kills the ball. Strikeouts don’t matter when you hit the ball as hard as he does.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomez won't go anywhere.

Especially not with Cuddyer probably toast for the year.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perkins to miss next start..

Wifes in Labor, according to the twins site.

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

That's officialy then?

that’s probably alright, he’s reaching his previous high on innings i think.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm . .

Who do they start then. Bonser?

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Day off....

everybody can be pushed up yet no?

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so.

It’s good timing for an off day.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

More than Likely,

Or pitcher Blackburn on days less rest.

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

Breslow walks Teahen to lead off the KC 10th.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

FC

Can’t turn the DP, but Teahen out at 2nd. Better than a kick in the face.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh no

don’t say, I don’t wanna hear it. Breamer said something about Bass.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

This game is definetely on our offense

But none of our relievers have any grit man

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Nvm

Breslow show some craft and grit against Gordon there, 2 87mph fastball on the corner, then reared back for 92mph

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gardenhire

Man is he a puffy redfaced moron-on-the-stool-at-the-moron-bar sorta guy.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

This looks rough.

Bring in Joe Nathan!!!!!!!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

and Breslow

gets the K, Come on Craig, Pitch out of the jam

by Tony_O on Aug 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Avoids a spot

in Gardy’s dog house, he was about ready to blow there

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

Gardy remembered his ulcer and heart medicines this morning

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tuesday

Would be Perkins normal day to start. Blackburn would pitch on normal rest for tomorrow’s start. So Tuesday could be Bonser or else they’d have to push Slowey up to start on Tuesday as well as Liriano on Wednesday unless Perk could start on Wednesday. Should be interesting.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad they still have Nathan available

However if they would have brought him in earlier in the 8th I have a feeling we’d have a win already

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay

Lamb and Buscher have been good today. Let’s finish this

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon

Let Buscher hit

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Big single!

Let’s go, Buscher, get him over!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Like I said: the rest of the way.

WHAT?? BUNTING? Jesus, Gardy, he kills RH pitching. You idiot!

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably not

the best decision, but now a single could score Lamb. We need Everett to come thru again here.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope!

Here comes Brendan Harris, DOUBLES MACHINE!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks God

they avoided the DP there.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Ruiz?

Am I the only one who wants to see him hit. C’mon Gardy. Let the big boy take some big swings.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

This one’s going to be a long one

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

punto

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

All's right in the world

We’re back to dreading Punto and teams are walking people to get to him. At least it’s affirmation for Span that he’s a talented big league hitter.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The major problem

is they don’t have anyone to cover his postion.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Aug 10, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had the move

Ruiz to hit, take over 1st. Lamb to 3rd. Buscher to 2nd. lol

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon

Ruiz in to 1st, Buscher to 2nd, Lamb to 3rd

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Punto! THE MAN!

That’s enough. DFA. Luke Hughes. The end.

by tobynotjason on Aug 10, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Poor guy

looks like he needs another lesson with Oliva, can’t even hit the ball on the ground anymore

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto

Hopefully his downfall in the second half will allow the organization to not think twice when they let him go instead of another pity signing

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently

Breslow likes working under a little preassure

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great night for Breslow.

There’s no way he just didn’t climb a place or two in the bullpen heirarchy. Two scoreless innings, one walk, one strikeout and a pair of hits. Great job!

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah

big time… lol

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ruiz

Don’t understand really. The guy has one purpose on the bench. He’s the guy who you send in there with one demand: “End it.” And then you don’t use him. I know he doesn’t have a position or whatever, but the opportunities have been there to use him and then throw another guy into the field. But now all those opportunities are all but gone. Just a waste of resources in my mind.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes yes the offense has been bad

But the team has been manage terribly today, bench players and bullpen alike. Another reason why I don’t think Gardy’s capable of taking us all the way. This team wins in spite of his bad decisions.

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Aug 10, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bummer of an ending.

Shit way to go down.

I was surprised they didn’t bring in Nathan after they IBB’d Guillen.

And of all people to win the game…Tony Freakin’ Pena.

by Jesse on Aug 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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