Game 145: Royals @ Twins
by Jesse on Sep 10, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
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Minnesota hasn't won back-to-back contests since August 21 and 22, which to me means they're due. With Kevin Slowey starting things do look good, as he's 2-0 in two starts against the Royals this season, including a complete game and a combined 1.23 ERA. In fact, since July 28 his ERA is just 2.61, which is an impressive feat over eight starts, even considering that ERA is a poor judge for a pitcher on its own merits. One interesting tidbit about Slowey: every pitch he throws has more velocity to it this year as compared to 2007...except his curve (-0.9 mph). Fastball (+0.2), slider (+1.9) and change (+2.0) are all quicker.
For the Royals tonight it's Kyle Davies, who turned 25 yesterday. After some early success this season (3-0 in his first four starts, 24.2 innings, 1.46 ERA) opposing hitters have caught up with him, but in spite of that he might just turn in his best season as a pro yet. In his fourth year, Davies will likely set career bests in innings pitched, ERA and maybe even wins if things go his way the rest of the month. But with his track record including walks, hits and endurance, the Twins hopefully won't be giving him too much help in those departments. The righty offers a decent fastball, a slider, curve and modest changeup.
My guess for the KC lineup: DeJesus (LF), Aviles (SS), Guillen (RF), Butler (DH), Teahen (3B), Olivo (C), Gload (1B), Callaspo (2B), Gathright (CF)
For the Twins, it'll be the same lineup for the fifth time in a row: Span (RF), Casilla (2B), Morneau (1B), Kubel (DH), Young (LF), Buscher (3B), Punto (SS), Gomez (CF)
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Yes, let's go Jays!
I love this time of year, where I cheer for the Twins and also for whichever team is playing the one we want to lose.
The Jays
Have been feasting on the central this year, and they have Halladay going tonight. I’m feeling pretty good about tonight (knocks on wood).
Just shut up.
Please! Thanks to that comment, the Twins will give up four runs in the last three innings. If you say any more….
Slowey might just die right on the mound.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 10, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was kidding, by the way.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
This doesn't have anything to do with the posts above
But did anybody notice the slash stats for the Twins middle infielders? Punto and Casilla are almost identical—Casilla is .340/.399/.739, Punto is .341/.399/.740—both are respectable, but not outstanding. Punto gets far more flack here and at BYTO and the strib than Casilla has this year.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Casilla
is 23 and a developing player still. his defense is superior to Punto’s as well. Punto is having an alright year and I’m ok with him at short because I don’t know that we have a better option other than possibly Adam Everett who seemed to be doing alright after coming off the DL.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
I am loving your lineup predictions Jesse!
no catcher!!! this will be a fun game! Did both Reddog, Mauer, and the new kid all hit the DL at the same time?
haha….
What's with Casilla
Making a running pivot? I thought he needed to last night, but he had plenty of room and time tonight to turn the DP without getting acrobatic.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
Leadoff Single
For Kubel. If Morneau is posting this, I can’t see it because my computer is acting up.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
What happened to the thread?
The Twins tie the score and no posts?
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
Breaking news:
The Twins tie it up!
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by Andersklasen on Sep 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps theycan break the tie
First and second for Morneau, Kubel and Young.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
too bad it was a ground rule
otherwise I wouldn’t have been surprised to see Mauer score too
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
Ducks on the pond
for First-Pitch Young
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
Hitters count to Young with two in scoring position, one out.
It’s time to score.
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Young nails a changeup
right to the first baseman. He scores one, and moves Kubes to third.
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Buscher is very good
in RBI situations.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
You forgot to knock on wood.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Twins and Sox
both ahead by 2 in the middle innings. Sox are facing a better pitcher and a better lineup.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
Slowey in some trouble
In the fifth. Gets Buck, so there’s no advance. Now, two out and a runner on third.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Doc is Dealing in ChiTown
1-2-3 in the fifth. ChiSox still lead 2-0. The Jays have the heart of their order up in the sixth.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
Epic Duel between the Grit Masters
Doc is definetely number 1 on the Grit chart in my mind, but Burhle is pretty high up there as well. He can certainly be a leader for this team over the last two weeks here.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Thome and Ramirez with hits
Sox with second and third and no out in the sixth.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
AJ
Gets a two-run double. 4-0 Sox. I guess the Twins will have to win to stay within one game.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad
Really though Halladay would come through for us today. If I had my pick of any right hander in the game to have on my team. It would definitely be him.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Jays offense doing a "twins"
you know scoring and winning the night before and then not showing up the next night
5-0
On a squeeze. I doubt the Sox bully will melt down and they may not be needed at all.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Buehrle is also doing a good job
On his way to a 10-hit shutout. So far the Jays have made three errors and have had two batters stink it up, Bautista and Lind. 0-6 with five Ks.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
Davies
Finding his form or are the Twins coasting? Really the bottom of the order and Kubel have done the damage.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
Davies is certainly an enigma
He’s everywhere with his pitches in terms of control and pitch selection. Twins hitters sometimes have a hard time being patient enough or even recognizing when they are going to see that fastball down the middle.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Hello Hello
I am back and the Twins are winning!!!! and so are the ShitSox but if we win I really dont care what happens with them…..
Slowey Cruising
76 pitches through 6 innings, keep it up bud!
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
We all know
That the Sox have been great at home. I couldn’t see them losing all four to the Jays. I hope the Jays get it together tomorrow and take the series from the South Siders.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Good things happen
When you put the ball in play. A nicely manufactured run for the Twins.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
actually though
he did Gomez a favor there. There were 2 outs and Gomez was 0-2 and looking lost, no harm done. Though I’d rather see him thrown out at 2nd rather than picked off.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else have Sportscast by Brookstone?
there must be something funny w/ the satelite b/c it’s showing the the Brewers scored 20 runs
Wow
anybody notice the number of curveballs Slowey has been throwing tonight?
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Tampa v Boston
That’s got to be fun for those guys down there in Tampa. Locked in another great game again today. Tied 1-1 in the 9th. Great to see them beat Papelpon yesterday.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
how many pitches for Slowey?
I’m watching Balfour and his wicked 97 mph heater in the Tampa game right now.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
make that 98mph
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Notice Ellsbury's average?
While I like his overall game, Jacoby is not the offensive star he was made out to be.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
obviously he’s been much better all around then Gomez and he still has room to improve, but Gomez still has a higher ceiling at the end of the day.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah and everybody is bitching at how
they are disappointed in Gomez…take a look at who you wanted Santana to be traded for people!
Hugues – not good
Kennedy – not good
Cabrera – hardly good
Ellsbury – good defense, fair offense, good speed
Masterson – dont know
Bucholz – not a good year
Lester – fair year
Lester Fair?
He’s been a rock for their rotation all year with Beckett and Matsuzaka spending time on the DL. He’s absolutely dominated at times. You don’t give him enough credit.
Still I doubt all but 2 of the guys on that list were ever on the list.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon Twins
Score some runs so we don’t have to see Guerrier in the 8th!!!
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
2 speedsters on...
double steal, worst case scenario is that you still have 1 guy in scoring position
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Yey!!
everyone start chanting Korecky!
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Home Town Call
On Casilla’s bunt. It should have been S- E1.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it was
Casilla was credited with a sac and then went to third on the three base throwing error by Nunez.
Mauer
leaves the RBI for Morneau… how Minnesota nice of him
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Morneau can't capitalize...
When’s the last time we saw Fat Man Runnin’ (Ruiz).
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
More Kowbell please!!!
Dong, dong!
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Kubel singles
and Casilla scores….
Kubs is now 2 shy of Mauer for 2nd in RBI…(he is 48 shy of Morneau for #1 in RBI…think he can make it?)
Actually Kubel has recently been passed
by Mauer. Nice to get Kubel knocking in some runs.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
yes I know
it was sometime ago actually but now Kubel is making his case for regaining second place.
Go for the jugular boys!!
poor it on.
Ready… ready…
No Gue-ri-er!! No Gue-ri-er!!! Ko-re-cky!! Ko-re-cky!!
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Boo!!!!
What’s the point of bringing those guys up if you’re not going to use them in situations like tonight>?
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Save Bonser
For closer situations. Not like he’s the greatest option, but obviously he’s more useful in tight game vs the 3 relievers we just recently brought up.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see Boof dominate
Then hand the ball over to Mijares for the ninth.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
I guess they feel Bonser needs to get some work in
But frankly I don’t see why you just don’t throw Korecky out there and see what happens. Worst case scenario you get Nathan or Breslow ready if something happens.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the two mess ups you just had
were repeats from the end of the 7th when Slowey finished things up.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Clean inning for Bonser
surprised he’s back to using all his pitches again…
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Boof
Could be a good guy in the ’pen. The FB was registered at 97 at least once.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well yea
Him and Crain have the stuff to dominate, but they just need to pitch like it more. They back off too often when they need to just go in and attack with their filthy stuff. The problem has been that sometimes Major League hitters hit well placed 95+mph fastballs a long way. They need to be both need to be more resilient when that happens, particularly Crain.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with all that
But Bonser had never been a reliever until this year. It would be too much to ask him to save the bullpen and the season this year, but he could come back next year and be really valuable to the team. Also, with the increased velocity and hard curve, I am sure somebody would want him and give up more than a middling prospect.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed as well
Though, with how shaky Guerrier has been this year and with no guarantee of a healthy Neshek, I’d like to keep both Crain and Bonser for next year.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jays-Sox
6-4 with runners on second and third and one out. I can’t watch, I might scream at my ’puter.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 10, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Lol
Good show boys. At least the Jays wont be completely dead going into tomorrow’s game.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Good cheese vs Span
Okay who’s coming in in the 9th. We going to waste Guerrier next now?
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Breslow?
Man Gardy must have a phobia of calling in call-up relievers when we’re not losing.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
I was at the last game Liriano pitched...
Think it was the Tigers opener. Anyways, after Liriano finished the 7th with like 90 pitches, the Twins had a long inning at the dish. Mijares was warming up and I was excited to see his debut live. I was prepping my friends for him saying that his fastball has reached the upper 90’s at times. Anyways, turned out to be a bullpen session. Liriano came back in gave up another donger and walked a guy and then had to be lifted. Again, none of the call ups made an appearence even though it was a bigger blow out than tonight.
Like I said, Gardy has some series phobias and strict guidelines when managing his bullpen. Might be part of the blame as to why they’ve been so terrible after Neshek. Gardy’s inability to work creatively with the guys he has…
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 10, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
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