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The Strib is reporting that the Twins will play in Target Field in 2010.

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The Target Twins will play at Target Field, which is located at the corner of Target Ave & Target St. in Targetown, Targetsota.

Target.

by Jon Marthaler on Sep 15, 2008 10:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I always thought it would be

Daytons Park or Field or maybe 3M something or other but I guess that just shows my age.

At least it’s not some “up and coming” company, I’m sure the Astros were so pleased w/ Enron field

so will all the employees have to wear red polo shirts and kakhais at the park?

by caluofmn on Sep 15, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Daytons is Target now

so it’s basically Daytons Park. I wouldn’t be too sure about Target not becoming another Enron, either, with consumer spending and confidence way down and a massive credit crunch. That said, I don’t mind Target Field. Land O’Lakes would have been better and Best Buy would have been worse. Hubert H. Humphrey was actually a gigantic flip flopper on the Vietnam War and ended up having his ass handed to him by Richard Nixon, so in that sense you could make a case for Target being a better name than HHH what with their giving 5% back to the community, etc.

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by natetheskate on Sep 15, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

That’s a better name than some of the other ones out there…I did think it could go to Best Buy Field…or Post-It-Note Park…but Target Field isn’t too bad.

by Jesse on Sep 15, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Target

Target is a good, solid Minnesota company, a good ambassador of the strong list of Minnesota based companies that we are proud of, is involved in the community, has a nice logo for a park, and is a pretty decent name. I think it’s a good choice. Now it’s time to come up with good nicknames.

The bullseye? Field de la target boutique? Targetopolis? Someone more creative than me get to work on this one. Jon, go!

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by AdamOnFirst on Sep 15, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Champ du Target

(I’m mostly an A’s fan now, but grew up a Twins fan shopping at the original Boutique Target in Roseville)

Don't blame me, I voted for Bill King.

by Englishmajor on Sep 15, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

long shot

I knew it never had a chance but i was really pulling for Grainbelt Field

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Sep 15, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With commercials

of Dan Gladden whimsically downing bottle after bottle in between innings on the jumbo screen.

by Jesse on Sep 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfect

but Glick’s honeybock would have been pissed about that. Maybe we could have been Glicks Field

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Sep 15, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UGH

Bad Name, Bad Choice, Sheesh

I was a big Fan of Wheaties Field that was Brought up awhile ago.

by Tony_O on Sep 15, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh

3M Field.

Hey, as a Rochester resident, maybe Mayo Clinic field ;)

by PizzaDelivery on Sep 15, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Money

Anyone know what the final bid was?

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by maxisagod on Sep 15, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the name

I wanted my brothers (CarterHayes) dug up name for it: LOL Field/Park – (Land of Lakes) Field/Park

by 33MorneauMVP on Sep 15, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was awesome

when he dug that up…I was uber-impressed. And yeah, Land O Lakes Field would have been a great name.

by Jesse on Sep 16, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few points

1) Unless Target is doing something unlawful they aren’t likely to become another Enron. The economy goes up and down, and Target can ride that out. American consumers spend regardless of their debt, so no big issue for Target there.

2) Nostalgic as it is, being “Breakfast of Champions” is a phrase specifically created for Wheaties sponsorship of the Minneapolis Millers, Wheaties is a product, not a company, and you don’t see product names on these stadiums. As a product, Wheaties is not a particularly viable one. General Mills puts virtually no marketing bucks behind it and sales are basically flat, which was brought to the forefront when Michael Phelps signed with Kellogg’s (which wasn’t all that big a deal for Wheaties, being Phelps had already appeared on the box four years earlier, so they could brag they had landed him first). Also, Wheaties damn near disappeared from Americana decades ago, and as of this moment stands less of a chance of being around in 25 years than Target. The Twins have said other deals with local companies would likely occur, so General Mills – the Minnesota company that currently purchases more Twins’ season tickets than any other – could push Wheaties out there for a three- or five-year deal.

3) Humphrey was hardly any kind of flip-flopper on Vietnam, let alone a gigantic one. He more or less kept his mouth shut on the issue because he was told that would be in the best interest of any further political aspirations.

4) Based on popular vote, Nixon failed to hand Humphrey’s ass to him. Nixon’s margin of victory in the popular vote was scary bad close – something a bit over half a percent. Nixon just managed to carry a healthy supply of states with the big electoral clout.

5) The Gophers sold out for $35 million to TCF. Xcel is believed to have paid out around $3 million per over 25 years. A good guess on Target’s 25-year deal would start at $100 million.

by Johnny Safron on Sep 15, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

American consumers spend regardless of their debt, so no big issue for Target there.

K-Mart’s doing great now, huh?

Also, not that it relates in any way to baseball, but dude check the electoral college in ‘68. Remember how presidents are elected? Nixon landslide. And if George “Segregation Now. Segregation Forever” Wallace hadn’t run as the Ross Perot of ‘68, Nixon would have done a lot better than Humphrey’s sad little 40% of the vote. Home boy was a flip flopper on ’Nam. No way to sell that any other way.

I don’t want Target to go down the tubes by any means though, and I hope they and the Twins have a great next decade on into the roaring twenties. The hoops some people will jump through to defend HHH though, geez. The man also pretty much shot McGovern’s campaign in the foot in ’72 with his antics in Miami Beach, BTW.

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by natetheskate on Sep 16, 2008 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: K-Mart doesn't sell groceries

Presumably, people eat regardless of debt load.

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by cmathewson on Sep 16, 2008 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they used to have Big K-Marts

That sold groceries to compete with the Super Targets and Super Wal Marts. Correct me if I’m wrong on that.

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by natetheskate on Sep 16, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comparing K-Mart to Target or Wal-Mart is your first mistake. Suggesting that K-Mart’s problems, dude, are related to the current economy is your second, dude. K-Mart went tits up long ago, when the economy was fine.

If you will note, I did mention the electoral college, dude. Anyone who lost an election by half a percentage point didn’t get his ass handed to him, dude.

Not defending, HHH, dude, just correcting your misperceptions. Not a political board anyway, dude.

by Johnny Safron on Sep 16, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He lost the election 301-191

Did Al Gore win the election in 2000? Since this is a baseball board, Cleveland’s run differential is +31 but their record is 73-77. You could make a case that they should be considered for a playoff spot over the LA Dodgers based on this except for an inconvenient thing called The Rules. Presumably Humphrey was trying to win the presidency using, I dunno, a strategy tailored to The Rules, and in that sense, yeah, dude, he got His. Ass. Handed. To. Him. Why? In part, because people saw Nixon as the Peace Candidate.

Also, K-MART declared bankruptcy on January 22, 2002. The economy was coming out of a recession then, dude. Economy was not fine.

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by natetheskate on Sep 16, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

Looks like some dude skated over to Wiki for a cut-and-paste. Unfortunately, Kmart’s troubles began long before 2002, and the economy was indeed fine at the time. It’s a long, slow decline to bankruptcy and many businesses don’t need a bad economy to fail. A bad economy is a typical final blow to businesses that are failing. Also, comparing Kmart to Target is like comparing (name random baseball player) to (name random NHL player.) Entirely different business models.

You’re also welcome to your Wiki interpretation of HHH.

For the naming rights portion of this comment, while Target does donate 5% of its income to communities, it is not to the community, as you mention. “Community” suggests Minneapolis-St. Paul. That 5% includes a wide realm, including national programs such as the United Way. So ultimately HHH probably dragged as much money back to the state at Target “gives back.”

Target’s $5 million annual commitment to naming rights (the educated guesses on this are $4-8 milion annually, although both $7 and $8 seem way too high, and $4 too low), by the way, is just a hiccup in the checkbook for a company with that gigantic advertising and marketing budget. They could eliminate one glossy Sunday newspaper circular and pay a good chunk of that bill. Two would easily cover it, so they can really just add a line to their brand budgeting, adjusting their marketing strategy for a week or two and basically cover it.

It’s a good bet that the Twins did not even have to play one state corporation off another to get Target’s money. Target was in the lead from the start, and although team officials daydreamed of tying “Breakfast of Champions” to their tails, it was just a daydream because it was never feasible on the other end.

by Johnny Safron on Sep 17, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude I don't care about the pork barrell spending that HHH brought to MN

And I didn’t mean to imply MN as the community Target gives back to. It’s just good to see a corporation take 5% off its bottom line and give it back to society instead of solely to the shareholders.

And yeah, the reason I went to Wikipedia was to look up the bankruptcy date of K-Mart. That’s what Wikipedia’s good for. I got interested when you said that “K-Mart went tits up, dude, when the economy was just fine.” They actually went “tits up” when the economy wasn’t fine. I used Wikipedia to demonstrate this.

Finally, Wikipedia didn’t teach me how presidential elections are played anymore than it taught me the rules of baseball. If it had done either one of those things, I wouldn’t be ashamed of it, but I knew how presidential elections work long before Wiki existed. Glad I could share some knowledge with you.

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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nixon just managed to carry a healthy supply of states with the big electoral clout

Actually, Humphrey took 3 of the 4 biggest states: New York (the biggest at the time), Pennsylvania and Texas. Problem was Nixon took 32 states to Humphrey’s 13. Our friendly governor Wallace took 5 states.

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by natetheskate on Sep 16, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

I like the choice, but whatever happened to Ocho Cinco Field?

Has there ever been a town with two professional teams housed by one company? Target Field and the Target Center.

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by Andersklasen on Sep 15, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Target Field could always legally change its name to Ocho Cinco Field

and thus get out if its twenty year or whatever contract with Target Corp.

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by natetheskate on Sep 16, 2008 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My original point before I was forced to school a troll on electoral politics

is I don’t mind Target as a name. I didn’t really mind HHH as a name either, it was more rhetorical since I get frustrated with people who like the good old days when stadiums were named after corrupt robber barons instead of corporations. And I mean, following the Yankee model, I guess Twins Yards would be refreshingly bland but I’m not kidding myself about the bottom line of major league baseball and I suspect neither is anyone else.

And correct me if I’m wrong, but nowhere else in the history of US pro stadiums did we name one after a politician. You can even use Wiki to set the record straight and I won’t fault you. We probably wouldn’t all agree on a Paul Wellstone field but that’s what the HHH metrodome basically amounted to. Except Wellstone didn’t lose in a blowout to Richard Nixon and he had the cojones to vote against the Gulf War on the Senate floor. That was a man who stood up for his ideals, whether or not you think he was right. Name a stadium after him though? Thanks but no thanks. For supporters like me, why name a place I go to escape daily life and get drunk after a man I admire? For detractors, why piss them off? Thank freaking god Ted Mondale didn’t just die. There’s another loser (in all 50 states this time)

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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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