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Punto's arm

I recently noted over at Howard's blog that Punto reminded me of Juan Castro in the field. Here's what I said:

 

I hope the stats-only people use this as a lesson about the value of intangibles, and that everyone understands intangibles cut both ways.

Gee, I didn’t realize fundamentals were intangible. I’m sure there’s some way you can measure them. How about tallying every play Punto makes with his showboating, freewheeling style? Then you could count the plays he does not make (errors, getting picked off, etc.) and do a ratio. My point is, playing good fundamental baseball is not like “clubhouse chemistry” or “leadership” or whatever. It is something you can see with your own two eyes, which I think is the definition of tangible.

BTW, I blame Castro for some of this. Yesterday, Gladden made a comment about a ball Castro let roll under his glove that resulted in the home-town scorer giving Cuddyer a hit. He said Castro was “going for style points” rather than making the routine play, which was my biggest complaint about him when he played here. I think Punto’s game changed when he played with Castro: He realized that style counts in the eyes of coaches and fans. If Castro could keep his position on style alone, it could work for Punto. And it has worked for Punto: He is called a “gold-glove caliber” fielder at every position despite mediocre numbers. Why? He goes for style points, which leave a good impression in the minds of coaches and fans despite the numbers.

 

Thinking about Castro's defense triggered a memory of those two months in 2006 when the infield looked awful. Castro had 10 errors and several nonerrors in that stretch, many of them on throws. He was a surprise choice to start considering that he only played in five games in spring training, having played for Mexico in the WBC. It was especially surprising he was handed the job because he didn't play at all in the WBC because of a shoulder problem, which he apparently hid from the Twins staff. But he couldn't hide it from me. He had nothing on his throws and I swear I saw him pick up his glove on several occasions in the hole rather than embarrass himself with a weak throw. He also altered his style to run around the ball and get behind his throws more, earning him style points but also failing to record outs because the new style took him so much time to get the ball over to first on the fly.

Fast forward to this year and watching Punto, I'm seeing some of the same tendencies. And it's most apparent recently, when he has to muscle it over there just to get it on the fly. Morneau has saved him errors on balls in the dirt more times than I can keep track of. And makeable double plays seem to evaporate as his ball hangs in midair while the runner flashes by the screen safe.

So the theory is he has some kind of arm problem that he hasn't told the coaches about and it's hurting this team. Another telltale sign is his hitting. He's hitting much better from the right side of the plate than the left, an indication that his throwing shoulder is bothering him.

What I don't get is we have two healthy shortstops sitting on the bench and it's apparent to me that he's not 100 percent. So why keep playing him?

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For a lack of better options?

I’m not saying it’s the right answer, but it might be the one the staff is stuck with. They could put Punto at second base, where his arm wouldn’t be under as much stress since he wouldn’t have to throw as far, but that puts Casilla into a position he hasn’t played this year.

Is Everett healthy now? I never know. Does anyone know for sure? Because if he is, then he’s the obvious answer there considering LNP’s difficulties, even though AE has issues hitting the ball historically. And Brendan Harris…he’s okay, but would that make him an improvement over Punto, even with the lack of arm strength? I don’t know.

by Jesse on Sep 18, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everett is healthy

He’s our best fielder at the position. But he can’t hit. Tolbert is a good option.

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by cmathewson on Sep 18, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

style points

I think that’s a good analysis. Man, moving back to Minnesota after a few years away, it’s crazy to see all the Nick Punto t-shirts and jerseys out there in Twinsville. WTF?

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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well done CMath...

It boggles the mind that Gardy continues to run him out there.

And it’s a great point on the baserunning errors. I recently did a full baserunning analysis of Punto and Harris for the entire season, and recalculated their offense based on that. I gave each an uptick in total bases for each extra base on the basepaths and calculated that into SLG, and I subtracted from AVG/OBP/SLG for any out they made.

With the re-calculated numbers, Harris’ offense DOES come out ahead of Punto’s for the season.

I really, really hope we FINALLY are rid of Punto after this season.

by DJSkillz on Sep 20, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I thought he would...

…be fired, I would actually pull for the dreaded Pale Hose, but since it wouldn’t do one lick of good, I’ll keep cheering for the Twins right up until mathematical elimination.

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by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Sep 22, 2008 4:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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