Game 153: Twins @ Rays
Minnesota Twins at Tampa Bay Rays, Sep 18, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
Pregame (10 games remaining)
With the Twins elimination number now into the single digits at nine, they draw the short straw and get to match up against the second-best squad in the American League. The Tampa Bay Rays, baseball's feel-good story and epitome of the term "team", have rebounded from ealier in the week and once again hold a two-game lead over the Boston Red Sox. In spite of major absences from major players like Carl Crawford, Evan Longoria and B.J. Upton, they're 30 games over evens and are, at this point, the only team in the American League who has a shot of stealing home field advantage from the Angels in the playoffs.
To meet the charge is Glen Perkins, the one starting pitcher for the Twins who's been decidedly mediocre over his last 10 contests. Yet with only a pair of quality starts in that span and a 5.16 ERA, he's 5-2 in that span...talk about luck. At any rate, I prefer to think of it in a positive light, and that all this means that Perkins is due for a great night. He managed just three innings his last time out, and in fact, this month has allowed 24 hits (5 homers) in 13.2 innings, including five walks and just seven strikeouts. The 15 runs he's allowed (just 13 earned!) are shocking. And really there's no way of getting around it--he's got his work cut out for him tonight in Tampa.
The AL East leaders, meanwhile, send out 26-year old James Shields, who allowed five runs in five innings against the Twins back on April 16th. Shields is having a great year, and in spite of striking out an entire batter less per nine innings compared to last season continues to stymie hitters with his fastball/changeup combination. Over his last three starts, 23 innings, he's allowed just three runs on 17 hits. His biggest achilles heel, the fact that he's a completely different pitcher away from Tampa, doesn't help the Twins tonight--he's got a 2.34 ERA at home, with a .615 opponent OPS. Look at it this way...he's due to have a bad night. Right? Right?
For the Twins tonight against a right-hander I won't ruffle any feathers with my prediction: Span (RF), Casilla (2B), Mauer (C), Morneau (1B), Kubel (DH), Young (LF), Buscher (3B), Everett (SS), Gomez (CF)
And for the home team Rays, who are happy to have Longoria back in the fold: Iwamura (2B), Bartlett (SS), Pena (1B), Longoria (3B), Floyd (DH), Navarro (C), Hinske (LF), Gross (RF), Perez (CF)...I'm secretly hoping for Baldelli to get a start tonight, because it's been a while since I've seen him play...but the odds tell me Cliff Floyd gets the DH nod tonight.
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Hey, look at that!
It’s Rocco Baldelli!
I still think that’s a cool name. Now it’d be good if he could stay healthy long enough to display those skills he has.
Another night of Punto at short.
Cmath, try not to throw anything at your tv set.
Tolbert getting another shot at third tonight as well.
Go TWINKIES!!!
*for now at least, cause if the Sox lose, then I want y’all to lose. But for tonight, Go Minny!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
oh thanks very much
but the BoSox have a big lead over the Yanks dont they? we could gain some ground if the ChiSox lose! How bout you guys win, ChiSox lose, and Twins win!
I wouldn't mind that.
Even if we’re off tonight. Kill the Rats, please!!!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Hmm... RaysTV looks like crap tonight.
Sounds like it every night too!
BTW, I’m a Sox fan stuck in Tampa.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Name says it...
Ted Williams is my homie. I made a kick@$$ history day project about him. (I’m 15 btw.)
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Y'all traded him, why do you hate him?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
because now he shows his potential
plus I dont really care about him…we were calling him Fartlett long before we traded him…..
Cool beans.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
YAY!

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Just showing I know what most people think of Sox fans.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
I hate those guys on WGN...
Esp. because they rarely show a CWS game I want to see
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Can we hope that the aging stadium falls in on them and they both lose every player for the rest of the year?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Every team
Has a series or two where they just knock the cover off the ball. The White Sox had one against the Twins. The Twins are due to have an offensive explosion for a number of days with a bunch of homers mixed in. The Trop is a good park to hit homers in. The one factor working against this little theory of mine is that the Rays have a very good pitching staff. But maybe, just maybe, the Twins can have some fun this weekend.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
+1 on the homers point.
6 on the first night
0 second
2 last night
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
NO!
this is the game that Perkins throws a quality start!!!!
Add to that the Twins knocking the cover off the ball, this will be a good game!
As the member of OTM, NG, would say:
Suck their momentum! [random numbers and stats follow]
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
GIDP
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Get used to the stupid dramatic music in the background.
Even in the first inning with no runners on, down by three, they will still play it.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
I am not sure three runs will be enough
but I expect the Twins will get more than three.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
Only a two run lead now.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
My bad, forgot about the runner.
Doing World History homework…
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
What? You don't like the music?
“FEEL…THE…HEAT…RAYS!!!!”
Wouldn’t “Feel the Sting” be more appropriate? Unless they want to be called the SunRays.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Errors kill.
NG: “Keep the momentum!!! Tolbert is SUCKING it away!!!”
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Don't do it.
If you are gonna lose early, leave in your SP. Don’t waste the BP down the strectch.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Well, it's a tie game now.
Think: It’s 0-0
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Dammit, I forgot about the runner again!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
That sounds like a slump.
ZOBRIST!!!! Why didn’t y’all take him instead of Harris?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
He was a SS prospect at one point...
He’s a utility man now.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
You're telling me.
I had to watch this shit last night.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
You know what? They're further back of us than y'all.
Let’s not go White Sox!!!!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Humber warmin up
FINALLY! Put Perk in the pen for the final week and put Humber in the rotation! Just for Fun come on!
Might be 10-3 by the time he's in.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
You mean Jesus OF?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
He knocked in Jesus IF too!
Holy BASEBALL!!!!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
He has Christian music playing when he's at bat.
He’s an Evangelist.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Oooh... a Santana trade piece?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Again,
good thing it’s September or we’d really be screwed. At least we’ve got the warm bodies in the pen.
by Adam Peterson on Sep 18, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, at least Wake got to the 2nd...
Maybe I should go and see if that helps y’all’s luck…
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Humber's looking good
so far. Keep us in there through 6 or 7…assuming our offense comes back out of hibernation
Shields not too sharp either
I don’t think five will win this game.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions
Humber is looking pretty good!
He SHOULD take over Perkins role in the starting rotation……
we SHOULD have traded away Perkins for Beltre! (although now, Beltre has shoulder problems)
he is having a little problem with command
but he is battling out of it very nicely!
I HOPE PERKINS IS NOTICING THIS!
With the off day on Monday
Perkins can be skipped without anyone pitching on short rest. That almost has to happen as opposed to him pitching against the Sox on Wednesday. The next time Perkins’ spot would come up after that is on the last day of the regular season.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
With one exception
If we skip Perkins, then on the last Saturday of the season we’d either have to start Baker on short rest or pitch Humber/Bonser/Perkins. Humber gets my vote.
by Adam Peterson on Sep 18, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like he's come back to earth
I think Humber is out of options, I wonder who the Twins will pick Humber or Bonser b/c I really can’t see them keeping both.
Bonser
will be traded. Teams are interested and the Twins would be stupid to hold onto him. I think Humber will get a spring invite and battle for a mop-up job or something.
by Twins Territory on Sep 18, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He might be traded
I guess it would be a matter of the difference in what we might get for Perkins or Blackburn as opposed to Bonser.
Humber definitely gets an invite next year, out of options.
by Adam Peterson on Sep 18, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I am thinking that
either Boof or Perkins gets traded with Humber taking over Perkins spot….maybe even both Boof and Perk get traded!
Boof and Perk for Atkins?
No thanks
Atkins is quite average away from Coors
by Adam Peterson on Sep 18, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
but he would be excellent as
a Twins 3B….Punto? Lamb? Batista?….who am I forgetting? Buscher has cut it so far but he could drop off especially since he might not be used to playing everyday.
Atkins could even be better than Koskie! (aside from defense of course)
Blasphemy!
No one can be better than Koskie unless it’s Gary G!
Ha Ha Ha
What’s Atkins avg. against chairs in Cleveland in must win games?
Love me some Koskie, I hope his health is better
sure I would
like David Wright, Evan Longoria, Ian Stewart, Alex Rodriguez, etc. too but lets be realistic here!
We'll keep Humber
for long relief and as a 6th starter. At this point, we may keep Bonser too. Bonser has a little trade value, but Perkins might have a bit more next year. I could live with Humber-Bonser as the #5 guy, waiting for one of Mulvey-Duensing-Swarzak to make a move.
by Adam Peterson on Sep 18, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
why we need a fifth starter. We have Liriano, Baker, Slowey, Blackburn and Perkins. Just because Perkins has been shit these past two outings doesn’t mean he’s done. I’d be disappointed if the Twins kept Bonser. If they can get anything, take it.
by Twins Territory on Sep 18, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
With Humber and Bonser
as well as Mulvey-Duensing-Swarzak waiting in the wings, we might consider trading a starter (likely Blackburn or Perkins) to address other needs. Perkins has more trade value than Humber or Bonser, that’s all.
by Adam Peterson on Sep 18, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomez
has certainly hit better the last wekk to ten days.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees
Are having their way with the Sox, 9-1 in the fifth.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
I guess Longoria
Is the Rookie of the Year.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
Humber had a really good start today
and against the power Rays too! Humber had better take over Perkins spot!
what?
why Cuddy? Gomez has been our most reliable hitter recently! I guess they want power Cuddy! Hopefully it will pay off
alright Longoria
has hit three homers and guess what? he is sitting on my bench in my ESPN fantasy game! DAMN!
OMG
This team is such a tease, I keep wanting to give up on them but I keep coming back. Every time I do they’ve done something dramatic to tie it or pull ahead just to give it up again.
UGGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 18, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hold crap we tied it.
I gave up on this game in the first inning to go write. HOLY CRAP
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Not in the last month.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap, I haven't been this excited over the Twins since...
a LONG time.
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here come the Twins!
Great 9th inning so far…
alright...
trick question: if this game stays tied, who would you bring on?
Nathan? I would keep him for the closing
Breslow? best relief pitcher in that pen right now.
Bonser? best RH pitcher in that pen right now.
I'd bring in Nathan.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't need to refine it
just return to it.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Kubes and Young
We all knew these guys would have to contribute behind Morneau for us to do anything this season. It’s their turn again.
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
Not sure I like this
pinch hitting for Kubel with Everett to bunt.
by Eric in Madison on Sep 18, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Boo
Gardy has no killer instinct, this is a complacency move
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 18, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't anybody
give me that “good baseball” crap either
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 18, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
can't kubel lay down a bunt?
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't care what anybody says
You don’t pinch hit for your DH
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa
why is adam everett pinch hitting for jason kubel?
"I don't care about feelings." - Lou Piniella
huh
I’m not sure I trust Delmonstrosity to hit a sac fly home but whatevs
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
NATHAN
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I positively agree!
its Nathan time now!!!!!!
except we still have runners on second and third with what? NO outs!!!!!!
He's a moron
who got lucky
Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?
by caseintheface on Sep 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We've scored three runs against relievers with ERAs under 3.
What’s going on with this team?
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Scratch that....nevermind
I misread.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
they've been scoring runs all season
crazy amounts of runs like we’ve never seen in a Twins team
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus I've never been so nervous about a Joe Nathan 9th
Wow, we could be back within 2 games by the end of this ridiculous night
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true but who else are you going to put in the 9th?
Guerrier?
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And we ain't done yet.
Two in scoring position with no outs?
Let’s bring in three more, huh?
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
word
"I don't care about feelings." - Lou Piniella
by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
1.5 games back?
Dare I say it?
Knock on wood
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad the yankees can't keep playing chicago forever
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, great minds think alike
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
In all respects, neither should the rest of this bullpen.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
lets just keep delivering blowouts
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the most confident I've felt about a game for a LONG time.
Which is saying a lot, because I’m not that confident right now.
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Oh, how I wish we could save some of these runs for later.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude I don't know
I’ll take these runs right now
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd still put Nathan in with a 4 run lead though
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
78 mph fastball
come on Punto. Drive this one out of the park
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just kidding
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
heh, that was Punto's attempt at glory
Bradford’s curveball is just as fast as his heat
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who remembers who let us play the bottom of the ninth?
anybody? after that long inning I nearly forgot?
anybody remember a kid named Alexi Casilla that let us play into the bottom of the ninth?
word
this is a team with a bright future, I think
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Start strong
(3 in the first) and Finish Strong (5 in the 9th). Let’s hope there’s no one on when Longoria bats.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Longo grounds out
and Twins fans have long to hear it, the Twins pull of one of the biggest upsets on the season!
Throw it right in there
Joe. If he hits another homer, so be it. Don’t walk him.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
1.5 back
With the 3-game homestand vs. the Sox. I’m lovin’ it.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Sep 18, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
ah there is a minor thing there
we still have to play three more games vs Tampa…
they will be out for revenge tomorrow you can bet!
If the Sox series started tomorrow
I’d be with you but too many times we have seen a win like this only to see a sorry loss the next day
Will tonight create the spark for this team? Will tonight be where they get their 2nd wind?
We’ll see, for me this was a nice win nothing more…
I’m just enjoying what baseball is left to see this season before the dark times begin
1.5 games back with 9 left to play?
Teams make up 1.5 games in 9 games all season long. It’s pretty routine actually. We’ve got 3 more games against a tough team on the road, but we’re not chasing a 100-win team by any stretch. 88 games could win the AL Central. How many did we win in ’87 again?
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85-77 in 1987
with a 29-52 away record. Wow. I knew it was bad, but I didn’t realize it was that bad.
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Eddie gets the Win
Nathan the save
I wish we could have gotten Humber the win there, he really pitched a good game, but we WON so that is all that matters!
look for Everett to be in there
tomorrow with Punto going 1-5 and Everett coming up big there in the last inning!
ESPN had us with a 30% chance of winning the division
going into this game. Now it’s probably closer to 35%. When you put it like that, it sounds almost like it’s in reach. Thanks New York! Thanks Tampa!
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Maybe the Twins love indoor baseball
Lets knock TB out of the AL East race and play Boston in the first round
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that would be fine with me
but Tampa’s gonna have to do it after losing four in a row to MN
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by natetheskate on Sep 18, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see a Twins v Rays first round
Liriano vs Kasmir
Baker vs Garza
Blackburn vs Shields?
of course TV would prefer to get rid of both small market teams in the 1st round
Your Three Stars of the Game?
1. Casilla, 2-3 with 2 RBIs, game-tying homer, solid defense.
2. Everett, 1-1 with game winning RBI, nice fake bunt – slash!
3. Mauer, 3-4 with 3 RBI, raised AVG to AL leading .327
Honorable Mention:
Philip Humber – solid performance after rotten one by Perkins. He kept us in the game despite giving up two runs. Went 5.1 innings (saving the pen) and only gave up 3 hits (2 HR)
Carlos Gomez: 2-3 and played really solid defense except for a ball that he lost in the roof. Diving catch though!
I'd put Humber in the top three.
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by Andersklasen on Sep 18, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Today
Today’s game will either be looked back upon as a statement game when the Twins put everyone on notice that they would never quit and wouldn’t go down without a fight, or as them toying with us just a little longer to make the ultimate disappointment worse.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
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