Remaining Free Agents of Note
So last night I cursed the Twins by saying they hadn't yet signed a veteran on the backslide of his career. In order to balance that out a bit, here's a brief list of free agents who could still be on Minnesota's radar.
Joe Beimel, RP - He'll be 32 this season, and is a southpaw. The Twins still could decide to add another arm into the bullpen mix before spring training starts, and he's posted ERA's of 2.96, 3.88 and 2.02 over the last three seasons. Looking beyond the ERA doesn't give me much confidence in Beimel's abilities, but I'm not in the front office.
Orlando Cabrera, SS - He turned 34 in November, and while his name is known throughout the league, he doesn't provide anything of value that would make him worth bringing in. The Twins are better off with Nick Punto at shortstop, where both his defense and offense can be on the better side of adequate, and passable for a shortstop, respectively.
Alex Cintron, SS - Cintron is 31 and a switch hitter, and doesn't provide much of anything other than a .277 career batting average. I think this one is pretty unlikely.
Joe Crede, 3B - Crede will also be in his age-31 season in 2009, and will be three years removed from his last full season. The Twins have side-stepped anyone who's tried to gauge their interest to this point, never saying they weren't interested, but still saying that his health was a concern. He'll come affordable at this point, or at least he should, and at his best could provide good defense and some good power from the right side of the plate. But along with those health concerns should come that career .306 OBP. That's just sad.
Juan Cruz, RP - Captain Strikeout is still available, and he'll be 30 this year. He'd be a great set-up man, if the Twins would be willing to shell out.
Elmer Dessens, RP - Please, God, no. But nothing can replace the crafty veteran leadership of soft-tossing right-hander at the ripe old age of 38, can it?
Brendan Donnelly, RP - If he can stay healthy, he profiles as a guy who allows less than a hit per inning. But he'll turn 38 in July, and if the Twins are tepid about Joe Crede, they have to be a little wary of Donnelly.
Eric Gagne, RP - He's just turned 33, and we already know that the Twins have exchanged numbers with him and his agent. While he did make 50 appearances last summer, it was his first full summer since '04. This smacks of the Lightning In A Bottle signing that the team has tried to cash in on over the last number of seasons, and while it's not Tony Batista, it's not as understandable as Rondell White, either. I'd be okay with an invite to spring training.
Mark Grudzielanek, 2B - He'll turn 39 in June, but the man is just a good hitter. He hasn't hit for an average worse than .294 since 2002, and his OBP has been between .331 and .366 in that same period. He'd be a stop-gap, and Alexi Casilla would have to move to shortstop (which I don't see happening unless the Twins make a move for someone like Brian Roberts). Grudz would be a Twins-esque pickup, but honestly I think Minnesota is set with their middle infield.
Orlando Hudson, 2B - Here's a guy I could see the Twins shifting Casilla to shortstop for. Hudson did turn 32 in December, which would scare me away from the type of multi-year contract he's likely seeking, but over the last three seasons he's definitely been a guy who I would happily hit second, right behind Denard Span. Again, the question is whether the Twins would actually dish out for him.
Jason Isringhausen, RP - A 36-year old right-hander, last year he posted an ERA over 3.78 for the first time since 1997. He doesn't allow a lot of hits historically, and the Twins would probably urge him to keep in the strikezone a bit more, but I could see Minnesota taking a gamble here.
Will Ohman, RP - Good strike out rates, and still available? He's 31, left-handed, and might be out of the Twins' price range.
Al Reyes, RP - He turns 39 in April, and does have a history of injuries. But he can strike guys out, and he could come dirt cheap.
Russ Springer, RP - Springer turned 40 in November, and yet he's another pitcher who's had his name come up over the winter. He's notorious for being stingy with base runners, can make a few guys miss, and he throws five pitches. Springer looks like he could actually deliever, at least on first glance.
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put me down
for 1 Orlando Hudson, 1 Joe Crede, and 1 Juan Cruz! Hudson signs – Casilla moves to SS. Crede signs filling 3B void, and Cruz signs taking care of 8th inning setup man role.
If we get any of those players, I will be jubilant! The only one I see the Twins getting though is Joe Crede. Hudson and Cruz would be out of their price-range (or that is what they would tell you). If thats the case, I sign Russ Springer.
by 33MorneauMVP on Jan 28, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Type A free agents
The twins will not sign Orlando Hudson, Orlando Cabrerra, or Juan Cruz. I don’t think it is the yearly salary that is the problem, but the contract length and loss of a draft pick.
by Jon Kammerer on Jan 28, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A couple Sox fan friends of mine
call Joe Crede ‘Joe and 2.’ If he goes north, let’s make that his nickname please.
by TMW on Jan 28, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
*doesn't get it*
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by joeiscool12 on Jan 29, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"0" and 2?
I don’t get it either
by Chuck Tweedy on Jan 29, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hummmm.....
Beimel once pitched for the Twins. I think they skunked him on the playoff roster? Hey, Dennys Reyes is still out there for all of you keeping tabs.
If the Twins sign Gagne, they have to add him to the 40-man, I imagine, can’t do a minor league contract. Who do they cut?
At Twinsfest, Corey Koskie mentioned that he was working out for Canada for the WBC. Hummm…he looked good. Can play 1st/3rd/DH maybe?
Be interesting to see where all these pieces fall.
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by rosterman on Jan 28, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would like Orlando Hudson, but I doubt we get him.
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by AdamOnFirst on Jan 28, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A couple of these guys are worth draft comp
I’d say Hudson is one of them. But, personally, I’d rather have Juan Cruz. I don’t think the Twins will give up a first rounder, but this is one of the rare cases where I think they should. I don’t think Hudson is as big an upgrade over Punto as Cruz is over Crain.
And I do hope they manage to sign Crede. Unlike some of their recent bargain-basement signings, Crede actually still has some upside, assuming his back surgery does the trick.
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by cmathewson on Jan 28, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hudson
hudson would be great if we hadn’t already signed punto….
I agree, if we’re gonna sign a type A FA, it should be cruz.
by ianmader on Jan 28, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
-“The Twins are better off with Nick Punto at shortstop, where both his defense and OFFENSE CAN BE ON THE BETTER SIDE OF ADEQUATE, and passable for a shortstop, respectively.”
That is the dumbest thing I have ever read, Punto is a far below average hitter at SS or any other position besides maybe pitchers in the NL
by TwinsRube on Jan 28, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your nickname is appropriate
You need to read a little more carefully. Jesse referred to Punto’s defense at SS as the better side of adequate (which it is) and his offense at SS as passable (which it probably will be). In comparison with Cabrera, Punto actually hit better than Cabrera did last year (.324 wOBA vs. .316 wOBA).
by DK on Jan 28, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's it.
But in defense of TwinsRube, if I HAD said what he thought I said, that would have been the dumbest thing I’d ever written.
by Jesse on Jan 29, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ever the gracious host
“If I said ‘the Twins should sign Fidel Castro for the bullpen’” that would have been the dumbest thing I’ve ever written. So, he has a point. Of course, I never said anything like that, but I can still see his perspective."
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by cmathewson on Jan 29, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After all, he is left handed and breathing
He is still breathing, isn’t he?
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by cmathewson on Jan 29, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Went over for a cigar last week,
and he was as chipper as a chipmunk. Communists live forever.
by Jesse on Feb 1, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'd never Get Hudson
Because Casilla is 2nd base….
and for now Punto is SS.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 28, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You could make an argument...
…for Casilla to move to short and Punto to move to the utility role. It won’t happen. But Hudson/ Casilla is better than Casilla/Punto. How much better? That’s an open question.
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by cmathewson on Jan 28, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Signing 2B
Scares me quite frankly. Because I just don’t see Gardy moving LNP anywhere. I have a feeling it would work out more like Hudson/Punto before it would be Hudson/Casilla.
by GACTwinFan on Jan 29, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm frustrated, but had a crazy thought ...
I just read on the Strib blog that Gagne was ready to accept the Twins offer, but the Twins suddenly pulled out.
The whole thing sounds a bit bizare and has definitely left me frustrated.
What makes matters worse is that Juan Cruz is still out there and I haven’t heard of a single team courting the guy. There is no way he gets anything near what he’s worth when he does eventually sign a deal. I realize that he’s a type A FA and it would cost the Twins their first round draft pick, but that is where my crazy thought comes in …
Why can’t the Twins negotiate their best deal for Cruz and have Arizona sign him to that deal. The Twins then trade a player that doesn’t fit into their plans to Arizona for the newly re-signed Cruz. For argument’s sake, let’s say the Twins give them Humber since he’s out of options and probably gone anyway.
One obvious answer is that Arizona would lose out on picking up their extra 1st round pick, but I’ve been thinking about that too. Any team that would be willing to give up a draft pick to sign Cruz would have probably made the deal by now. If and when Cruz signs, it will probably be with a team that already signed a type A FA and doesn’t have a 1st round pick to lose. Arizona would get nothing for Cruz if that happens.
Is this really a crazy idea, or does anybody think it’s the least bit do-able?
by sploorp on Jan 29, 2009 1:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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