Michael Young...
by Phenom507 on Jan 6, 2009 1:18 AM EST
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So, I know there is little to no chance of it, but do you think the Twins would be able to pull off a trade to bring Michael Young to MN? I heard on Hot Stove Live last night that the Rangers are considering moving him, so it's not completely impossible.
I'm pretty sure he'd be a huge offensive upgrade over Punto who could be used at 3rd (Maybe even platoon him with the other options).
I know there's like, no chance, but I"m just thinking what we could do that would be an offensive upgrade.
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80 million
over the next 5 years cancels this transaction before it begins.
by doofus on Jan 6, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Deferred money
I believe some amount of Young’s contract is deferred. $15M according to Cot’s, I’ve heard $20M elsewhere. Young is still not worth $60M+ regardless, IMO.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 6, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
Young would be an upgrade offensively over Punto (I project wOBA of .340 vs .295, respectively), but Young has declined a LOT over the last few years.
2005: .389 wOBA -24.6 UZR/150
2006: .352 wOBA -3.2 UZR/150
2007: .347 wOBA -10.1 UZR/150
2008: .331 wOBA -3.7 UZR/150
In fact, Punto (2.2 WAR) was a more valuable player last year than Young (1.7 WAR), with a wOBA slightly behind Young (.324), but far better defensive numbers (+12.0 UZR/150) than Young, more than making up for the offensive difference.
Bottom line, Young would be a valuable addition to the #2 spot in the order. Based on a projected wOBA / UZR of .340 / -4.0 for Young and .295 / +12.0 for Punto, I would project that Young improves us by about 11 runs / 1 win, not worth the 5 years / $65M he has left on his contract through 2013. I’d rather pony up that money to extend Mauer.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 6, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Question, is wOBA park adjusted? If not, those numbers are even worse than they look.
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by cmathewson on Jan 6, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe they are park adjusted
any more than OBP, AVG, etc. wOBA is simply a weighted sum of BB, 1B, 2B, etc per PA.
So yes, the numbers are even worse than they look for Young.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 6, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd deal for Young if...
The Rangers would take Punto, and a pitching prospect or two.
Young doesn’t want to play 3B only SS.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 13, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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