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Organization Review (The Shortstops)

With the winter leagues beginning play, continuing the review of each position will make the Saturday reports a bit long.  So it may be best to continue them as individual reports.  I will review the shortstops today then continue with another position once or twice a week until they are completed late next month. 

Star-divide

Shortstop is a position of immediate need in the Twins organization.  Is there a shortstop capable of helping the Twins next year?  Is there someone lurking in the lower levels of the minors who has shown that they could become a future star?

Many of the shortstops in the organization also played several other positions including the tenth ranked shortstop, Brian Bistagne.  Bistagne, 21 was signed as a free agent this past spring following his senior season at Lee University where he holds the all-time record for being hit by pitches (33 times in two years).  Bistagne won the 2008 NAIA World Series Gold Glove and was considered by Twins scouts to have the "whole package: speed, arm and quickness."  Bistagne played both second base and shortstop for the GCL Twins, hitting .228/.278/.289 in 114 at bats.  Bistagne was my 78th ranked player in 2009. 

Jairo Perez, 21, moved up to the GCL Twins this season following a 2008 season when he led the DSL Twins in hitting at .338/.437/.525 and doubles (18) while tying for the team lead in home runs (4) and RBI (36).  Perez, who played both shortstop and third base, had a solid rookie season for the GCL Twins hitting .217/.324/.317 in 120 at bats to rank as the 69th best player and ninth ranked shortstop in the organization. 

Our eighth ranked shortstop is the ultimate utility player who played nearly every position this season for the New Britain Rock Cats, Toby Gardenhire.  Gardenhire was my 58th ranked player in 2008 following an excellent season at New Britain where he hit .261/.348/.292 in 284 at bats.  Although Gardenhire's numbers improved slightly this season to .265/.326/.305 in 200 at bats, his ranking dropped seven spots to #65. 

The seventh ranked shortstop would rank significantly higher if we were only considering defense.  Likely the top defensive shortstop in the system, Yancarlos Ortiz had a solid season with his bat at Ft. Myers where he hit .251/.308/.292 in 343 at bats to rank #76 in 2008.  He moved up to New Britain this year where he was the Rock Cats starting shortstop much of the season.  Making only 16 errors in 106 games, Ortiz hit .223/.307/.260 in 327 at bats to move up thirteen spots to #63 this year.

The sixth ranked shortstop is another player who played several positions for the Ft. Myers Miracle, Chris Cates.  Often referred to as the shortest man in baseball (Cates is listed at 5'3"), the former University of Louisville star moved up two spots this year to rank as the 52nd best position player in the organization.  Cates hit .251/.317/.278 in 370 at bats with 34 walks and only 27 strikeouts.  Last season at Beloit, Cates hit .252/.330/.284 in 408 at bats with 45 walks and 41 strikeouts.

Our fifth ranked shortstop takes us back to the GCL Twins for another player who moved up this year from the DSL Twins, 18-year old Daniel Santana.  Santana hit a respectable .274/.343/.426 in 190 at bats in 2008 with a team high 10 triples while stealing 15 bases in 19 attempts.  This year Santana was my 50th ranked player, hitting .265/.302/.418 in 170 at bats for the GCL Twins.  

The fourth ranked shortstop is Brian Dozier, who was the Twins eighth round pick in the 2009 draft.  Dozier played a few games for the GCL Twins (he was 4-14) before moving up to Elizabethton where he took over the regular shortstop job after the Twins traded Tyler Ladendorf to the Oakland A's.  Ladendorf's trade gave Dozier an opportunity he didn't waste as he went on to be the Appy League's second best hitter, .353/.417/.431 in 218 at bats with a league second best on base percentage and number of hits (77), tied for tenth most runs (38), and sixth most doubles (17) with 23 walks and only 26 strike outs.  Dozier's excellent season at Elizabethton earned him my #41 ranking.  Will he be able to maintain this level of performance next summer at Beloit?  

My Number 40 ranked player is our third best shortstop, Estarlin De Los Santos.  De Los Santos moved up 39 spots following a 2008 season when he was the #79 ranked player after he hit .242/.304/.309 in 236 at bats with 15 stolen bases for the Beloit Snappers.  Although he missed part of the 2009 season on the disabled list De Los Santos had what may prove to be his breakout year, hitting .290/.330/.397 in 262 at bats with 11 stolen bases in 15 attempts.  Should he continue to hit like this year next season at New Britain, Twins fans will have to start watching him as he just might be someone who will battle for a role with the Twins a few years from now.

Our second ranked shortstop is another player who took a huge step forward this year moving up thirty four spots to my #28 ranking.  Because he is 23 years old, many discounted Ramon Santana's performance this year when he hit ..296/.384/.453 in 371 at bats for the Beloit Snappers before going 4-15 in a brief late season promotion to the New Britain Rock Cats.  Regardless of his age, his perfomance at Beloit had to be rewarding for Santana after hitting .241/.316/.404 for the Snappers in 2008.

Our top ranked shortstop is a name we are all familiar with, 2004 first round pick Trevor Plouffe.  Plouffe returned to Rochester this season following a half year stay in AAA last year when he hit .256/.292/.420 in 259 at bats with 17 doubles, 3 triples, 6 home runs and 39 RBI.  Combined with his .269/.325/.410 in 227 at bats at New Britain, Trevor was my 16th ranked player.  Plouffe, who didn't turn 23 until mid season, returned to Rochester this year where he put up numbers similar to last year at .260/.313/.407 in 430 at bats with 23 doubles, 5 triples and 10 home runs.  Plouffe's defense is debated by many as he is often referred to as having excellent defensive abilities, yet, usually has a lot of errors (26 in 2009 following 18 in 2008 at Rochester and New Britain).  Plouffe is my twelfth ranked player this year.

After earning praise from Ron Gardenhire in spring training last year, Plouffe is certainly a player the Twins are talking about at their organizational meetings in Ft. Myers this week.  He hasn't put up offensive numbers like Jason Bartlett did at Rochester, yet, is Plouffe someone the Twins believe could battle for the starting shortstop job next spring?  Perhaps the most intriguing prospect is Yancarlos Ortiz who is considered the organization's best defensive shortstop.  A special defensive shortstop can be an asset without being a great hitter.  Can Ortiz improve his hitting enough so that his bat won't keep his glove from earning a spot with the Twins? 

Although Brian Dozier was in his first season of professional ball, his performance at Elizabethton was so good that he could become a special player some day for the Twins.  However, we all must remember that he was in the Appy League and we need to see him repeat his performance in a full season league next summer.  Can Estarlin De Los Santos follow his break out season with another similar year at New Britain? 

Although there are several shortstops who could continue their development to earn a spot with the Twins, the most exciting shortstops in the organization will both be at Ft. Myers next summer playing in the GCL.  Although recent International signees Jorge Polanco and Miguel Angel Sano have yet to play their first professional game, both sixteen year olds are considered the type of prospects who could some day be superstars.  With these recent signings, shortstop may have gone from one of the organization's weaker positions to one of its strongest.  

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Nice summary, and hope for the future

How is Ramon Santana’s glove? Interesting that they skipped him up a level—is that an age related thing?

by Han Joelo on Oct 18, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No...

…they needed players in New Britain at the end of the year when they lost several players to the World Cup. With Ft. Myers headed to the playoffs also, they didn’t want to disrupt their lineup so they moved Beloit’s best hitter up to New Britain for a few games and the EL playoffs.

by roger13 on Oct 18, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casilla

What about Alexi Casilla?
Did he play any SS in his stint at AAA in 2009?
He looked comfortable there the few times I saw him play.

If we don’t bring back Cabrera could he go there?

by clutterheart on Oct 18, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Based on memory from reviewing boxscores...

…I believe Casilla played only second base. Plouffe played nearly every game of the year at short until leaving for the World Cup. When Tolbert was there, he moved around some but Casilla didn’t.

by roger13 on Oct 18, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a particularly impressive lot

is it? Nobody in that group really seems to profile as a starting shortstop in the majors. Dozier might be the best hitter, but he was a college kid in the Appy League, and we all know what I think of that. Plus, I doubt he’ll stick at shortstop.

by Eric in Madison on Oct 18, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

What is it with the Twins and lack of middle inf. depth?

by wcooley on Oct 19, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

This is a sorry position from an organizational perspective. Which is why I’d make it my #1 priority from a free agency / trade standpoint.

by Adam Peterson on Oct 20, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whew....

Coming up a bit short at shortstop, it seems. Looks like Toby Gardenhire may end up being the one who makes the major leagues at some point.

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by rosterman on Oct 18, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Plouffe is a Ballplayer

After watching Plouffe for 1.5 yrs at Rochester, it is important to note that his numbers do not indicate the Ballplayer that he is. He is a fairly clutch hitter and he is rather good in the field, although he does make the forced error. But he always seems to be in the game, and again he is a MUCH better ballplayer than his stats indicate. I like him. I think the same thing will happen to Plouffe as Span, as they get better the higher the competition. He is almost ready!!

by Rochester Dave on Oct 18, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ladendorf would have ranked #47...

…or the fifth shortstop, right after Dozier and before Ramon Santana. He put up ridiculous numbers in 60 at bats at Elizabethton, hitting .410 Average. When he moved up to the MidWest League, he his .233 and .231 at Beloit and Kane County (Oakland).

Steve, I really like Beresford. Had him ranked with the second basemen where he just might compete for a job with the Twins someday.

by roger13 on Oct 19, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rochester Dave...

…for those of us that have only seen Plouffe a few times (I saw him a couple times in spring training), can you give us more insight into his defense? Does he have better than average range? Are most of his errors made defensively (misplaying the ball) or are they throwing? What do your instincts tell you about his throwing errors, are a lot of them made on a ball that was difficult to get to and he hurried his throw? And what about his arm strength? A shortstop needs a strong arm but some shortstops have a cannon. How would you rank Plouffe’s? Thanks Dave.

by roger13 on Oct 19, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roger 13

Thanks for the followup. I believe that Plouffe, who has always been young for his league, absorbs the game and is very instinctual. I have seen him make very good plays going deep into the hole, and his overall range is slightly above average. However he plays with a lot of instinct and in some ways (hate this comparison) is like Jeter in that he will usually be in the right place at the right time. His arm strength is good, but he does make his fair share of errors on easy plays or rushing his throw. Not a cannon probably somewhere between Orlando and Nick( but closer to Nick). He is a clutch hitter and in 2009 started driving the ball more than his previous tenure here. I NEVER imagined Denard becoming the player that he became, and I do believe he would be a very good addition to the Twins. It is also obvious that he is a leader on the Wings. Not sure if Cliburn liked him that much, but he is gone now – he just got stale. Actually this was the first year of our affiliation with the TWins that it appeared that the hustle and drive in the team was missing. Might be because Stan was upset that Stu was demoted to AA last year.

by Rochester Dave on Oct 20, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

When he was drafted, a lot of scouts thought he should be a pitcher. He threw in the low 90s in high school. Wonder if his arm is not as strong as it once was or if he doesn’t gun it over there. If Punto had to pitch, his fastball would be slower than RA Dickey’s.

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by cmathewson on Oct 20, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Punto looks like he throws hard

Could be that Plouffe is getting the same velocity with an easier motion. The Twins are going to be most interested in whether he has good footwork around the bag. That’s why they soured on Harris and loved Luis Rivas.

by DJL44 on Oct 20, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plouffe

I have only seen Plouffe play a couple of innings on TV, but I think he has a chance to be a regular SS. From all the I have read he has the tools—arm, range, hands—to be a really good defender. He has some pop (double digit homers this year) and he drove in 60 some runs.

I have been thinking that the Span comparisons might be dead on. Both were first round draft choices who moved up each year even though they didn’t really stand out. Plouffe has now repeated at Rochester. Plouffe has been young for every level and has usually been a far better second half player. Even if he is very impressive this spring, it will be hard for him to go north with the Twins, but if he is very good next spring in Rochester, or when someone gets injured, I believe he will get a shot with the Twins. I hope he takes advantage of that chance, just like Span did.

by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Oct 19, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Span comparisons

In order for Plouffe to come on suddenly, like Denard Span, he’d have to figure out plate discipline. Span was stuck in the 6-7% BB rate until 2008, when he jumped up to 14.3% in AAA and 12.6% with the Twins. Plouffe is consistently in the 6-7% range as well. Will the light turn on? I don’t know if Plouffe will ever grade out as an above average SS defensively, but based on his offensive performance moving through the system, barring a Span-like “light bulb” moment, he projects as a below average (about -10 runs) offensively, which could put him anywhere from 0-2 WAR shortstop depending on his defense.

by Adam Peterson on Oct 20, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Maybe Plouffe will get lasik eye surgery or something (which was Span’s light bulb moment). But unless he starts taking more pitches, he projects as a replacement-level shortstop or a decent utility player. I certainly wouldn’t give up on him, cause he’s still young. But he’s been consistently below league average at every stop, including last year, when he repeated AAA and was about average age for his level.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 21, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comparisons to Span..

..and hopes that Plouffe will do what Denard did aren’t realistic. There had been glimpses of what we might hope for from Span at several stops in the minors. Like the first half of 2005 when he hit .339Ave at Ft. Myers before moving up to New Britain at mid season. He then went on to hit .285Ave over the next year and a half in AA. By comparison, Plouffe’s best average in the minors was a .274Ave at New Britain in 2007.

I am hopeful that Plouffe can develop into an above average defensive shortstop who will hit in the .260-.270 range with low double digit home runs and a lot of doubles. But expecting a Span revival would be more than shocking and shouldn’t be expected.

by roger13 on Oct 21, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plouffe

If he can pick up his defense, could he be another, say, Greg Gagne?

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by rosterman on Oct 24, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

He’d have to grow new legs for that. Plouffe does not have great foot speed.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very good write-up

what to make of James Beresford… ?

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 19, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our weakest position

I have some hope that Dozier will be more than a utility player. Otherwise, it’s a five-year wait for Sano or a six-year wait for Polanco.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 19, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

totalzone

Plouffe rates as a good fielding SS (+7runs/150games) according to minorleague splits. Totalzone correlates well with UZR but uses play by play data.

by Jon Kammerer on Oct 19, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everything I've read about Sano

says that by the time he’s ready, which could be anywhere between 4 and 6 years he will be closer to a third basemen in regards to height and range than a short stop, based on his growth thus far. I am very leery on Plouffe, he’s flashed signs that he COULD be a good shortstop at the next level, but then he tends to regress a bit as well. SS is def. the biggest issue this team has. We have no clear cut future stud behind Polanco and Sano, which like I said could potentially be a third basemen by the time he gets up here.

by SouthSotaPop on Oct 25, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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