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Organization Review (Third Base)

Tonight we will close out the infield with a look at the top ten third basemen in the organization.  Like the middle infield spots, third base is another position of immediate need for the Twins.  Is there someone in the organization who can be expected to fill that spot in 2010?

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The tenth ranked third baseman in the organization is Juan Richardson.  A native of the Dominican Republic, Richardson was signed as a 20 year old non-drafted free agent in the winter of 2007.  Richardson, who also catches when needed, began his Twins career in the GCL where he hit .317/.364/.401 in 202 at bats.  He spent most of 2008 at Elizabethton with a late season callup to Beloit where he hit .206/.268/.230 in 126 at bats to rank as my 89th player in 2008.  Richardson spent much of this season on the DL, however, hit .271/.317/.288 in 59 at bats at Beloit before closing out his season by hitting .210/.231/.226 in 62 at bats for the Miracle.  Although his play was limited, his solid start at Beloit moved Richardson up nine spots to #80 in this year's ranking.

The ninth ranked third baseman is a young man from Australia who didn't turn 18 until the end of July.  Rory Rhodes began his professional career with the GCL Twins as a third baseman, however, at 6'7 there may be some question whether he remains at that position.  In a year where everything was a first for this young man, he hit .198/.264/.272 in 116 at bats.  The 74th ranked player in the organization will likely return to the GCL for a second season and it is also likely he will be a much improved player in 2010.

The eighth ranked third baseman is former Gopher, Nate Hanson.  Hanson began his career with the Twins following the 2008 draft by hitting .215/.348/.344 in 93 at bats for the Elizabethton Twins to rank as my 86th ranked player.  This season Nate moved up to Beloit where he showed considerable improvement, hitting .253/.322/.353 in 360 at bats to move up 32 spots to the #54 ranking. 

A young man, who would have broken the top 50 had I included players from the DSL Twins, is Wander Guillen.  Ranked as the seventh best third baseman in the organization, Guillen didn't begin play for the DSL Twins until shortly after the July 2nd International signing date.  This young man didn't turn 17 until late August, yet, led the DSL Twins in Average (.336) while tying all-star Romy Trinidad for a team best .443 OBP.  Guillen appeared in 31 games with 110 at bats while showing tremendous discipline for a young player by striking out only 23 times with 19 walks.  By comparison, one of the Twins top young prospects for the GCL Twins this year, Oswaldo Arcia, hit .293/.343/.432 for the DSL Twins as a 17 year old in 2008.  Although the Twins don't announce who they promote to the GCL each year until after the big league club leaves Ft. Myers, look for this young man to move up to the GCL next spring.

The sixth ranked third baseman is a prospect the Twins added to their 40-man roster following an injury plagued 2008 season at Beloit.  After hitting .316/.406/.506 for the Elizabethton Twins in 2007, D.J. Romero moved up to Beloit last year with high expectations.  After a slow start, Romero battled several injuries before showing improvement at mid-season when he broke his leg while falling into a dugout going after a foul ball.  Romero finished his season at Beloit hitting .268/.309/.396, yet the Twins showed us their opinion by protecting him from the Rule V draft.  After a solid spring training with the Twins, Romero was assigned to Ft. Myers where he showed spurts of the player the Twins believe he can be.  He too often found himself overmatched by the strong pitching of the FSL however, finishing his season with .222/.308/.314.  Although his average wasn't great, he was producteive with 18 doubles, 3 triples and 5 home runs with 56 RBI in 424 at bats.  Romero moved up 20 spots in this year's ranking to #47 and likely will return to Ft. Myers in 2010.

The Fifth ranked third baseman is a young man who was the Twins fourth round pick in 2007, Reggie Williams.  Although Williams plays several positions, he split time in Elizabethton this year where he hit .250/.316/.462 in 156 at bats with 7 home runs and 25 RBI.  Williams moved up 31 spots to a #40 ranking this year after a 2008 season with the GCL Twins where he hit a solid .286/.358/.440 in 84 at bats playing mostly second base.  Considered a raw but exciting player when drafted out of the Los Angeles inner city programs, Williams had nearly half of his hits go for extra bases this season. 

The Fourth ranked third baseman is the player that Williams shared time with at Elizabethton, Anderson Hidalgo.  Signed as a free agent out of Venezuela prior to the 2006 season, Hidalgo hit for averages of .310 and .305 in his first two seasons in the VSL and DSL before leading the 2008 GCL Twins with a .364/.448/.466 season.  Unfortunately, his 88 at bats were a few short of the minimum needed to qualify or he would have been the GCL leading hitter.  His numbers were good enough however to rank him #38 in my year end rankings.  This season Hidalgo moved up to Elizabethton where he hit . 291/.379/.469 in 175 at bats with 6 home runs to again rank as the #38 player in 2009.

A few years ago the Twins acquired a young man from the Colorado Rockies in a late season trade.  They had drafted Matt Macri out of high school, however, he chose to attend Notre Dame University.  They maintained their interest in him and picked him up in a late 2007 trade.  Macri played briefly for the Twins in 2008, hitting .324/.361/.441 in 34 at bats during a season when he would be my 22nd ranked player after hitting .259/.323/.466 for the Red Wings.  Matt was one of the players who the Red Wings were counting on this season, however, it wasn't meant to be for either he or the Wings.  Macri finished 2009 by hitting .225/.296/.400 in 365 at bats in what had to be a disappointing season and a year that would not have his name called for a return to the Twins.  Matt is the 26th ranked player this year and the third ranked third baseman in the organization.

Our second ranked third baseman is Luke Hughes who was the organizaiton's #4 ranked player in 2008 following a season that saw him hit 18 home runs at New Britain and Rochester while missing about a month in the middle of the season.  After a torrid start at New Britain, .319/.385/.551 with 15 home runs in 285 at bats, Hughes went on the DL then later moved up to Rochester where he hit .283/.325/.453 in 106 at bats with 3 home runs.  Hughes didn't get off to a good start this spring as he missed parts of the first few weeks of spring training then left the Twins for the WBC.  When he returned, he was assigned to Rochester where he hit .259/.344/.481 in 135 at bats with 6 home runs.  Luke again battled an injury that put him on the DL.  The Twins had moved Danny Valencia up to Rochester while Hughes was out so when he returned they assigned him to New Britain where he would be able to play every day.  Hughes closed out his season by hitting .250/.320/.445 in 200 at bats with 6 home runs to drop 10 spots in this seasons ranking.  There is no question that this young Australian has significant power in his right handed bat.  The question has always been about his defense and what his best defensive position is.  I have recently read several reports that indicate that his defense at third base isn't as bad as many feared and with his power he certainly should have a major league career ahead of him.  The bigger question may be whether or not it will be with the Twins?

The top ranked third baseman is a young man who many still wonder why he was available for the Twins to draft in the 19th round of the 2006 draft.  After battling several nagging injuries his first few seasons with the Twins, Danny Valencia made everyone take notice when he was the leading hiter in the FSL at the all-star break last year at .336/.402/.518 in 220 at bats with 5 home runs and 44 RBI.  Valencia was promoted to New Britain and after beginning very slowly, finsighed with a respectable .289/.334/.485 in 266 at bats with 10 home runs and 32 RBI to rank as the 6th best player in the organization.  This season began back at New Britain where he hit much as he did in 2008, .284/.373/.482 with 7 home runs and 29 RBI in 218 at bats.  When Luke Hughes was injured, the Twins promoted Valencia to Rochester where he hit .360/.372/.573 in 75 at bats before the all-star break.  That start had everyone clamoring for him to be called up to the Twins to the point that Ron Gardenhire commented on several occassions that he wasn't ready for that final promotion.  Valencia cooled and many have been critical of him for doing poorly during the second half.  Yet, the truth is that he hit for averages of .287 and .283 in July and August before going into a slump in September when the team played only 8 games.  Valencia finished his season by hitting .286/.331/.424 in 269 at bats for the Red Wings with 7 home runs and 41 RBI to drop a spot to the 7th ranked player this year.  Danny continued to not strike out to much (37 in 269 at bats), however, the bigger question is why did he draw only 8 walks after having 31 walks compared with 40 strikeouts in 218 at bats in New Britain.  Is it the change to a new environment?  Was it a different level of pitching?  It remains to be seen as are the Twins plans for him in 2010.

Danny Valencia and Luke Hughes are both close to being major league ready and both appear to be hitters who will have some success at that level.  Although Valencia is considered a solid defensive third baseman, there are questions about Hughes defensive abilities.  Is one of the two ready to man the hot corner full time in 2010?  The answer to that is unknown, however, it is unlikely that the Twins will want to pin their hopes on a potential championship season on the performance of an untested rookie.  Thus, it is likely the Twins will sign someone over the winter while they take a second look at both of these young players again next spring before sending them out for more seasoning.

A year ago the Twins were telling us they were very high on a third baseman further down in the organizaiton, D. J. Romero.  Moved up a level following a low A season at Beloit that he missed much of with injuries may have been to big of a step.  Expectations of Romero's future aren't what they were last year, yet, a very good 2010 could put him right back on the Twins radar as a top prospect.  The player that I see as someone that we need to watch very closely however, is a young 17 year old who had a tremendous season in the Dominican Republic this year, Wander Guillen.  It's a long way from the Twins Dominican academy to Target Field, however, this young man is someone who just might make that journey.     

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Thanks, Roger.

How comfortable would you be if the Twins entered spring training with an open competition for third base with only in-house candidates? Buscher, Harris, Punto, Macri, Tolbert, Hughes and Valencia…those are a lot of names for not very many spots.

by Jesse on Oct 23, 2009 4:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It depends upon what they do at second and short...

…I expect the Twins will enter 2010 with Nick Punto penciled in at second. They need to sign or trade for someone at either second or short. If they add a shortstop, I would be comfortable with an in house candidate for third. The problem I see is that they have to many spots tied up on their 40-man roster with a player that is best suited for the last man or two on the roster…ie, all of those mentioned above except Hughes/Valancia. Of the above group, I expect it would end up being some type of platoon between Harris and Tolbert until such time they became comfortable with either Valencial or Hughes.

by roger13 on Oct 23, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misprint...

…that should have been the need to sign or trade for someone at either short or third.

by roger13 on Oct 23, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As always a very nice and interesting report. Thanks for doing all of that research.

I tip my hat.

"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."

by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Oct 23, 2009 4:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would you mind rehashing the Romero 40 man decision?

I understand he was at risk of being taken in the Rule V. But he must have been considered such an elite prospect that he had the potential to jump from Low-A to the, I don’t know, National’s bench?

I just came from Seth’s list, where a commenter claimed he has no chance against good pitching…I, however, am optimistic.

by Han Joelo on Oct 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they were too hasty with him

even if he was taken in Rule V there is no way he would stick with a team for a full season.
Its a little easier to hide a pitcher in the pen than it is to have a positional player stay on the bench for the full season.

Now because he is on the 40 man, his clock has started to tick and he almost has to start at AA next year.

by clutterheart on Oct 23, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romero

Was the fear that they might lose him in the minor league portion of the draft, perhaps?

I still haven’t figured out the need to start his time so soon. Now, if they would remove him, anyone could claim him. By not 40-manning him so early, the Twins had the option of him having a bad season or two before having to make a real decision.

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by rosterman on Oct 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was the reason

The minor league portion is almost no risk. And he was a much better prospect when they put him on the 40 man than he is now. I would be they’ll lose him one way or another at this point. But I’m sure they’re not as worried about that now. The only real downside is it means one fewer spot on the 40 man for a guy who will be drafted in the major league portion, like Matt Fox.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Oct 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When does

The 40 man have to be set?

by clutterheart on Oct 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The 40 man roster needs to be set...

…by sometime late in November. It has to be a couple weeks before the December meetings when the Rule V is held. The Twins have a real dilema this winter as there are 6 or 7 guys that have to be added or are of high risk to be lost. They don’t have a lot of easy names to remove from the current list, so there is a good chance they will lose a player or two. 40-man will be a 38 when this year’s free agents are taken off following the world series. Assuming they don’t complete any trades and don’t sign/resign any free agents before December they now would have only two open spots. Will free up a few more but 6 or 7 is going to be tough. Players they absolutely have to protect, in my opinion, are: Rob Delaney, Danny Valencia and Alex Burnett. Others that must get strong consideration to being protected inclue: Juan Morillo, David Winfree, Kyle Waldrop, Loek VanMil, Brian Dinkelman, Steve Singleton and Santos Arias. This list doesn’t inlclude very good players such as Brock Peterson, Dustin Martin, Erik Lis, Whit Robbins and Brandon Roberts. Unlikely that any of these last group would be taken as most were available last year and were not selected. But the first two groups are 10 players who will get some interest by other teams.

by roger13 on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

40 man roster

By November 20th, each club must set its 40-man roster and submit reserve lists for all major and minor-league levels. Between November 20 and the Rule 5 draft a club may add Major League free agents to its 40-man roster but may not add any player from its minor league reserve lists.

by bballfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

40-man

The Twins have to not just worry about Rule 5, but also the minor league free agents (Peterson is one, I believe) as these guys can just sign anywhere, unless drafted by a team who really wants them bad enough to spend the money…but why not just wait.

Who might the Twins not protect?

Keppel (I’m not sure he’d get any better offers than an invite from other team, too)

Gabino (is he ultimately worth at the expense of someone else who could fill same bill in 2010)

Butera (don’t see him latching on anywhere, but might see need to switch organizations)

Buscher (will find an invite from someone, somewhere…but not Twins)

Tolleson or Tolbert (depends on Harris…and Dinkelman/Singleton…too many reserves!)

Romero (40-manned too early. Deserving of another year look?)

Pridie (make Tampa Bay trade look better, yet doubt that Martin or Roberts, suitable repalcements and no need to 40-man them, and Winfree who should be 40-manned, can replace).

Huber (picture the Twins will go into the Rule 5 at 40 and do an after-the-fact cut, similar to last season, when they cut loose Ruiz…and didn’t they do Korecky late, too?)

And then you have the names like Harris, Crain and Perkins and arbitration land.

Time for the Twins to attempt to deal some loose pieces to other teams for some minor league parts that they can look at for a season or two.

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by rosterman on Oct 23, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Valencia 3B, Plouffe/Cabrera SS, Casilla 2B, Morneau 1B

The veteran signings usually end up as back-ups.

by benhertz on Oct 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

History tells me that Punto should be in that mix somewhere.

"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."

by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Oct 24, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3B Thoughts

Great work, Roger. Looks like Valencia and Hughes are the semi-short-term possibilities. Williams could be decent. I don’t think we can give up on DJ Romero quite yet. Matt Macri is a non-prospect at this point unfortunately. Wander Guillen is exciting. I thought Juan Richardson was released in the 2nd half of the season?

by SethSpeaks on Oct 25, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question Seth,

…Richardson’s last game played for the Miracle was the end of July and then he was listed as being on the DL. He is still listed on their roster at both MiLB and the Miracle websites. Although the MiLB isn’t always accurate especially at this time of year. I do recall hearing something though so you may be right. In any case, having him as #10 and he may or may not be with the Twins organization tells us that we don’t have a lot of depth at third.

by roger13 on Oct 25, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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