ALDS Game 1 Overflow Thread #2
by ajmargarine on Oct 7, 2009 8:13 PM EDT
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PrintNYY lead our Boys 6-2 after 5 innings. Time for the patented 6th inning Twins rally! We know we're gonna have to outscore 'em, so let's get the train moving.
Duensing is out, Frankie is in. And CC is still throwing junk for teh Yankees.
Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins Let's go Twins
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CC's leaving his junk out over the plate
time to hit it hard
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
I realize what I said btw
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarcasm font fail
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's time for
The Twins 6th Inning Rally™!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
Sponsored by CC Sabathia
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Fucking pisses me off with the Yankees. They don’t DESERVE any more championships for a long time – they have fucking 26 of them. The media makes it like we should feel sorry with them for the “burden” and “pressure” they carry. Fuck that. They don’t need another one for a long ass time. Go Twins!
This goes the same with Detroit – make it a big deal with the receission. EVERY city is affected by it. It just happens that Michigan is the one with the dumbass auto mobile owners. We lost people in a tramatic bridge collaspe and we don’t go around carrying that kind of thing around.
by hitormiss1414 on Oct 7, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
They play moneyball
Trying to buy a pennant every year with mercenary players.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha – that means they DESERVE to win.
by hitormiss1414 on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
er...no
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully the Yankee long island type trollers won't find the new thread for a while.
I always loved that one.
No he just had back sugery
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is that sarcastic?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
because I don't really believe it that much,
sure they told him, but he didn’t need an excuse to stay home, IMHO.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you forgot the sarcasm font,
and forgot that he’s been home for weeks now.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think your wrong
I’m sure he’d rather be with the team right now, IM"H"O.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
let's go out west
where it’s still the 4th
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
When the Yankees go 1-2-3 it's uneventful.
Because Punto’s amazing play wasn’t an event.
Switching to radio …. now.
by Evan in North Dakota on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
John Gordon right now
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Liar!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously. Are you 13? "he's better than Nathan"
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Mariano Rivera tRA since 2002: 2.78
Joe Nathan’s: 2.61
Any other gems you wanna drop on us?
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
Where exactly are you getting this stat?
And people usually use a 3-year window to evaluate player performance.
The past 8 seems arbitrary for your case.
Actually, I believe that's what the rest of these guys call"bush league"
I wouldn’t mind statements, but they want me to support it with numbers.
But I want to make sure those numbers are real before I do the leg-work on baseball-reference and fangraphs.
If you find some good stats
that show Rivera to be significantly better than Nathan since he started closing, I’d love to see them.
he is better than Nathan
Was better when each were at their peaks, has been better longer, is a sure lock HOF, a fantastic dominating closer.
but “he’s better than Nathan” is bush league.
if you are gunna troll on our sire at least bring some humor – or go home with static shock.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hell
Phil Hughes is better than him at this point
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
Hughes has more blown saves than Rivera
in limited opportunities to Hold.
His control is not as fine and his peripherals all trail Mariano’s.
way stupid,
but that’s not Terrekain’s fault.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
no, but he is about as close as it gets
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
or until you turn 21
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it's as good as a perfecto
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Tolbert takes one for the team!
Let’s get him home!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
No way
Tolbert might get eaten
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
commentating fail
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
overall caray fail
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! Hey! Hey!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
CC lost it in his shadow
Let’s go twins! Let’s get ’em home!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
John Gordon:
“And Sabathia, all he has to do is BEND OVER (he emphasized those words) and he’s got him.”
Heh.
I always loved that one.
+10
Gordo is awesome
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
let's hit 5 consecutive homeruns right here
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Posada passed ball
Advance the runners
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
I didn’t see it.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
your kidding, right?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, I kinda do, Hughes and Rivera are TOUGH!
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
oh so negative
always
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He blew a fastball! Right by Orlando Cabrera...
These commentators have the worst way of putting things…I hate them with a passion.
he hasn't figured out sarcasm font yet, remember?
too dumb
just kidding @ at the front and end of each sentence without a space and not in the headline.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
C'Mon O-Cab!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
lol
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
crap!
Another MN Twins RISP Fail™!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
We need more pop-ups
so we can get this game tied up
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
^Yup was just gonna say that...
Seems like they knew NY would be ahead…wonder what the Minnesota song would be…
So would Porcello
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he's 20 years old!
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well playing in New York will help him out quite a bit
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously no moderators here,
or else static shock would have been long gone, so swear away.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't heard from him in a while
did someone answer his riddle?
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He's probably on top of the world right now...
“wow I annoyed all those fans enough so that they all left…I’m the best troll eva!”
Maybe we are supposed to win. Because every time we played the Yankees in the play-offs before, we won the first game and lost the next three. Maybe the tides are going to turn this year.
I can hear the boo's now
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
7-2
crapcrapcrap
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
I'm telling you...
Get RA dickey on a plane so that he can pitch in the 9th…save the rest of the Pen.
Capitalizing Words in the Subject Line is Fun!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
j/k
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys...I'm still not giving up on this game.
I know it’s corny but my favorite statement:
“Impossible is nothing”
We’ve proven that all year long.
yup
we need a fischean infusion!
or a couple of runs……………………………………………..
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Weren't you supposed to drop some of her pre-made quotes
Onto the thread? She is at work or something.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot's of bandwagon types will jump off
When the scores like this
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot the sarcasm font
Funny though
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHHAHAHA!
This is not fun
Im not accustomed to the Twins losing
n00b!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that
see above
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Every day when I look at the clock it's 9:11
Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?
Suprising that the Twins and Yankees have the same number of hits tonight
Yankees have three more walks though
C'Mon Kubes!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Another pitching change
I guess one team didn’t play 12 innings last night.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
This Yankee team is just disgusting to watch, even if they are great. They play like robots, the people in the seats behind the plate don’t seem to give a shit about the game, even though they paid thousands of dollars for their seats. Alot of them are wearing frickin’ suits. I don’t think I could shit through a game at that stadium.
As if there needed to be another reason to hate the yanquis
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
OK. Let's talk Friday.
Is Blackbeard starting against Burnett?
by Evan in North Dakota on Oct 7, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
Yes
According to Twins homepage
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This one was going to be tough no matter what. Blackburn has been in the pressure cooker a couple of times in the last few years.
The bad part though is that we were hitting CC early, and we
don’t always do that. I see that as a wasted opportunity.
I always loved that one.
Put it this way...
This first game was gonna be tough either way.
their best pitcher starting…it goes way down after this (even ESPN ackknowledges this)…the Twins will have time to rest up and regroup…and continue their hot streak.
Much better than the monicer "Big Spot Scott."
I dont care how long PA crams that down our throats, its a stupid nickname.
I always loved that one.
That's what PA does: he crams nicknames down our throats.
He’s our market’s answer to Chris Berman.
By the way, I never recall our market asking that question.
by Evan in North Dakota on Oct 7, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone should tell the Yankee fans that Mayhay used to be a Royal.
That would drive them nuts.
I always loved that one.
Seriously though, look at this Yankee lineup and tell me they are good for baseball. This is more like a collection of mercenaries than a baseball team.
That's how they get to be mercenraies
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah!
Mercenaries, shmercenaries! They are good players who cost a lot of money and the Yanks have a lot of money. If they offerred me 100 million to the Twins’ 40 million …. uh I suspect I might take that.
Don’t blame the Yankees it is an MLB issue, and arguably not a bad deal for MLB anyway.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And to add to Montana's point,
the Yankees haven’t won a WS with mercenaries. Those wins in the 90s were homegrown players.
by Evan in North Dakota on Oct 7, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh
They didn’t have the highest payroll until after 99 IIRC. hell, they didn’t even have the highest payroll in their division. (I’m fairly sure the O’s outspend the Yanks until then, as amazing as that soudn)
And besides, they made some very solid trades (Swisher) as well, and have done a fairly nice job developing guys despite having virtually no picks in the first round for the last decade. (almost their entire bullpen minus Marte)
Still, I think they should add / move two more teams into the region (one in New York and one in New England)
Well, I think there is a legitimate argument to be made that
the League is better for having a perrenial powerhouse that is also despised. People love to watch that stuff. Seriously.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd prefer parity
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball's got parity, outside of NY.
by Evan in North Dakota on Oct 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
and Boston and LA
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
by what stat?
don’t tell me population size becaue that’s hooie.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Population....
Its actually even… Detroit was just ahead in 2000, but Boston has just passed it.
Detroit is enormous.
well,
New England’s pop dwarfs Michigan’s and New England’s money dwarfs Michigan’s.
Comparing Boston to Detroit is like throwing in Minneapolis’ population, very misleading.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
10 M people live in Michigan...
6.5 in MA
With the rest of NE, it pulls ahead, but there’s no dwarfing….
Boston’s influence is overrated. Its the media hype and they play up their rivalries with NY.
You’re right about the money… just saying…
Can't buy love or pennants
oops, forgot the sarcasm font!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true.
Like the Patriots a few years ago. Bellichek plays a “whicked awesome” heel.
I always loved that one.
They had an appointment to be douchebags somewhere else now
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 7, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Zing!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I am SO GLAD this game is on the Twins Radio Network
in addition to ESPN.
The ESPN guys are classic and great and all but I do not like any of them.
I always loved that one.
Punto on!
2 out, 5 run rally time!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
The sooner TBS’s contract for these games run out the better. Their announce teams are about as bad as I have ever heard.
can't stand 'em
I’d rather listen to TRN
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Mik I
I did the leg work about fetch9’s stats for who was the better closer.
Turns out the reason Fetch9 used the stats he used is because he took them directly off fangraphs. He used the last 8 years because that was the total fangraphs showed him.
BTW, I have a technical/engineering background, but I’m not a stat-head so I had to calculate FIP since tRA uses linear regression. I have a TI-89 Titanium and have been looking for the data script but the calculation uses opaque raw data that I have no access to.
Hence, short-hand FIP.
I think only the last 3 years are relevant since this is the industry standard.
Since Fetch9 used 3 stats (K/9, HR/9, and FIP which I’ll substitute for tRA) to argue for Nathan, I’ll add 3 stats for fair measure and context.
K/BB will do for a measure of control to balance the K/9 power pitching stat.
WHIP I think is a generally a fair measure of performance even without the texture.
And finally, I think you HAVE to include a results-oriented stat because, no matter how you get there, the results STILL matter:
Save % will do.
So we have FIP, K/9, K/BB, HR/9, WHIP, and Save % for the past 3 years.
Fair?
First FIP: Mo beats Joe > 2.43 to 2.74
K/9: Joe beats Mo > 10.38 to 9.63
K/BB: Mo beats Joe > 7.43 to 4.07
HR/9: Mo beats Joe > .648 to .692
WHIP: Mo beats Joe > .898 to .952
Save : Mo beats Joe > 94.2 to 86.1%
In 2 of the 3 stats Fetch9 used, Mo beats Joe in 2.
In fact, K/9 is the only stat that Joe bests Mo (and not by much).
really, you're using FIP for a reliever? fair enough
I can see why you don’t work for a team anymore
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Color me impressed
I thought hoped you’d disappeared.
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it's been fun pretending to be a piniata.
It’s been fun, but I’ll address those stats tomorrow, if ever.
You’re making the case that Rivera has declined.
That’s fine, but if you know anything about the technical/engineering world, you know that criticising a project or standard is not feasible without providing an alternative standard.
Declining with respect to whom?
His former self?
That’s not a pitcher that exists in this time frame so it is an invalid alternative.
The standard is Nathan; and – as you’ve already mentioned -
Mariano bests him.
You know how these boards are
You were begging to a pinata when you brought up Nathan.
And yes, I am comparing him to his former self. At his peak. I’m comparing him to his career averages. To say his skills have declined. Just like every other 39 year old ballplayer. It’s not a novel concept.
Seriously?
That’s fine, but if you know anything about the technical/engineering world, you know that criticising a project or standard is not feasible without providing an alternative standard.
You seriously want us to take you seriously?
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We're not using the "perfect" standard.
We’re making comparisons to an alternative; in this case Nathan.
And Mariano still beats Nathan after all these years.
I also said to compare them since 2004
when Nathan started closing. Back to the TI-89! ;)
Whatever, you were much more enjoyable than the rest of the NY visitors tonight.
Terrekain, I got this guy you might like to hang out with...
His name is Johnny Safron, he also is hyper -defensive, anal retentive and has no sense of humor.
You two will get along great!
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did NY put in Rivera? Either way, I like it cuase they are using him up! Even with the off days.
Oh well
After 12 innings and no rest last night, I wasn’t expecting a lot today.
Tomorrow is another story!
GO TWINS!!!
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"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
That's you!
Not me!
GO TWINS!!!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew that
I misspoke.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is!" -John "Bluto" Blutarsky
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 7, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks, let's see if we can make this series fun
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Still, I gotta ask.
Why are you here/ I will give you credit for holding your tongue and realizing that most of the crap we spouted tonight was frustration and morbid humor and hyperbole, and to your credit you didn’t take the bait.
But why sit through it?
by montanatwinsfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, how may stirkouts did DY have?
I could only watch the first few innings, but he was thrown 6 pitches out of the strikezone and he had swung at 6 pitches out of the strikezone in his first two at bats.
The Twins were laying off CC crap pitches in the dirt and stuff in general over the first couple of innings (except for DY), but I am guessing they started swinging at the that garbage as time went along.
I am also guessing, but I imagine Duensing started to fall behind in the count, which a recipe for extra basehits against the evil empire.
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."
by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Oct 7, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Trouble
I know TBS has an obsession for the Yankees. You’d think we were the worst team ever to make the playoffs based on Ron Darling’s commentary. BUT, I do think the next game is essential. We need to get to AJ early. We did a decent job tonight, laying off CC’s stuff, but we need more runs — way more runs than two runs.
And, when we get to the Dome, I want it to be LOUD. Really loud.
Whither the Twins...
The Twins play with such confidence and poise at home (and against my favorites, the White Sox) but look the opposite against the Yankees.
Come on Twins beat the damn Evil Empire!
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At the risk of being a total n00b/jerkoff/'that guy'...
Does anyone have any idea where the Twins are staying in Manhattan, or where they usually stay? I’m assuming it’s in some swank Midtown/Times Square vicinity hotel. Reason I’m asking is, no, I am not a 16 year old girl trying to marry Joe Mauer… My niece and nephew are in town from MN (I live in NYC), and since I can’t afford 3 tickets without taking out a 2nd mortgage (only half kidding…) I know they would love nothing more than to catch a glimpse of, maybe even get an autograph from a Twinkie. Obviously I’m not trying to stalk anyone or invade anyone’s privacy; just trying to be a nice uncle. If I knew what hotel they might be staying in…maybe we might have lunch across the street…and maybe we might see ol’ Cuddy Buddy out for a stroll… just sayin’ :)
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