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Why? Because Joe cites OPS when evaluating players, which Reusse claims is a "made-up stat." With that one stroke of his typewriter (yes, Reusse probably still disdains a PC), he confirms that he his is a complete idiot.

The TwinkieTown Turkey of the Year? Patrick Reusse. An award that is long overdue. After all, it was just last year that he claimed the AJ Pierzinski is a more valuable asset to a franchise than Joe Mauer.

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I think you're linking to the last page of the article

Took me a few minutes to figure out to go to the first page to see Joe C’s mention, but there it was:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/74041912.html?page=1&c=y

It’s probably not even worth rehashing this but OK Patrick, I guess that runs scored mean something. In a literal sense that and outs are all that count in baseball. But then RBI is already a slippery slope into “make believe” OPS-land. What happens when you ground into a double play and a run scores Pat? Could that be an arbitrary exception to a made-up scoring rule?

And who needs OBP when there’s a nice, clean stat like batting average, a tried and true stat with no weird quirks or glaring oversights. And of course we’re stuck with RBIs because no one’s come up with a more direct way to figure out power by, say, totaling up the number of bases a batter and averaging it out per PA.

my floor is looking pretty dirty... BETTER GET OUT THE BROOM!!!

by natetheskate on Nov 26, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the correct link.

Since Reusse is so fond of paraphrasing, I’ll paraphrase Skippy John Jones: “Holy Guacamole!” It’s one thing to be an idiot, that happens to the best of us, but in that piece Reusse proves he is an idiot and an asshole. Bad combination.

by montanatwinsfan on Nov 26, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey I'm an asshole, layoff

http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com

by fetch9 on Nov 26, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true, but at least you admit it.

that is step one on the road to Hell to recovery.

by montanatwinsfan on Nov 26, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, Reusse - so whiny, and so stupid, perfect person to write a turkey award

I also like how he mentions Liriano as a turkey. Maybe that’s deserved, but he attributes Liriano’s problems to being “thick, disorganized, and stubborn.” I’m not sure what Liriano’s problems were this year, but I really doubt he was just too stubborn to improve.

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Nov 26, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Huh...

Reusse is vying for the spot that Souhan currently holds: most disliked Minneapolis/St. Paul writer. We’re quite lucky to have two of them in the cities.

Have a nice Thanksgiving, Twinkie Town. :)

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver

by fischean on Nov 26, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha. Soucheray's been off my radar for a while now.

Thanks for reminding me of his existence, I really appreciate it.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver

by fischean on Nov 26, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Garage Logic

I think Soucheray has found his place. He fits well there.

by WITwinsfan on Nov 26, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Reusse

He is a great story teller and a decent writer.

But now now he can add idiot to the above titles…

by clutterheart on Nov 26, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

Reusse is retarded

The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot.

by DaTwins on Nov 26, 2009 10:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

case in point

Zygi was on his list. Zygi is my favorite person in Minnesota right.

The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot.

by DaTwins on Nov 26, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For his assessment of Liriano…..shut the F….up Reusse. A guy that went through major Tommy John, um, most pitchers have taken awhile to completely rebound from that one. Wonder how well Reusse would do if his writing arm went through that. Wait a minute, maybe not, he would have too much down time to think of more idiotic things to say.

As far as Wilf, Im just as frustrated as he is over things. Hell, Redneck McCombs had no desire to keep the Vikings in Minnesota and in about a year was pulling the “build it” or I’ll leave. In the meant time, he did what he could to bleed the Vikes dry. WIlf has not only spent money to right the ship, but spent the money to get this team poised to a run to the Super Bowl. Doesn’t sound like a guy that is saying to hell with Minnesota.

I wiold have to say my turkey award, more like “Take them out of the gene pool” award goes to Reusse. But then again, over the years wether when I still lived in Minnesota and since living in New Mexico, Reusse has always provided plenty of mindless entertainment and laughs.

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
"We have clearance Clearance. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Nov 26, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

Wilf and Childress (probably more the latter than the former) have benefited from Favre just falling into their laps. We will be right back to being a middling franchise should Favre decide to retire after this year or see his performance decline.

I realize this isn’t the venue for it, but we should do everything we can to get Colt McCoy in the draft.

by rencito on Nov 28, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Image

Man, now I’m spending my Thanksgiving with an image of Reusse, all lathered up in a butter glaze, roasting in a turkey pan. Arrgh!

Visit www.TwinsCards.com and check out "rosters" to see my collection!

by rosterman on Nov 26, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Happy Thanksgiving to all in T.T.

Have a safe and enjoyable holiday!

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
"We have clearance Clearance. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Nov 26, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Way to focus on one aspect of a long column, an aspect that you obviously did not "get"

Reusse’s piece was original, entertaining, and he got paid for it. Kind of a triple crown of writing.

Easy to see why some people are jealous.

Amused observer of the old ladies backyard laundry gab.

by Johnny Safron on Nov 26, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

my floor is looking pretty dirty... BETTER GET OUT THE BROOM!!!

by natetheskate on Nov 26, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG ITS A NATETHESKATE SIGHTING!!!!

Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 26, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aww...poor kitty.

Trolls are mean.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 26, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jhonny Safron is not Patrick Reusse

Just wanted to clear that up.

Parts of the column were well written and entertaining. Reusse has an occasional gem and is one of the better sports writers around. But to call OPS a “make-believe” stat in this day and age proves that he is a baseball ignoramus. And to throw your colleague under the bus for using a stat that 95% of baseball writers rely on (including Sir Sid) is asinine.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Nov 27, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure Reusse knows that more advanced metrics are better than OPS

Like OWP,EQA, etc… no need to be back-of-the-envelope-approximate and use OPS.

I'm sure that's what he meant

by DavidRF on Nov 27, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

One of the better sportswriters around?

I’m not sure if you live in the Twin Cities, but we have probably the WORST sports media in the country. If you haven’t lived elsewhere, it may explain why you don’t realize how bad it really is.

by rencito on Nov 28, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's all relative

This is a town that reserves prime page 3 real estate to Sid Hartman and Charlie Walters. This is a town that has Bob Sansevere and Jim Souhan as lead columnists. The only decent writers are Twins beat writers and Tom Powers, in my book. Reusse is somewhere between Souhan and Powers. That makes him one of the better sports writers around.

Also, he has gotten considerably more ornery and cantankerous as his career went along. He used to be tops in this market, covering all kinds of sports that no one else would cover with style and grace, like town ball. Unfortunately, his ego has ballooned with his weight, and he’s become the grumpy old dry drunk who thinks he knows everything there is to know about sports..

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Nov 28, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So by that logic...

by being second or third best in a horribly shallow and suspect pool means you are one of the best around. I guess Temple football is one of the better programs around because they finished 3rd in the MAC, too.

No offense intended, I just really wish the papers would hire some fresh personalities. Reusse’s turkey of the year column is evidence in support of him growing more ornery and cantankerous, as you said. The fact that he uses it to call out collegiate athletes makes him the #1 a-hole around in my book.

As a tangent, does anyone ever watch that god awful sports show hosted by Mike Max that features Dark Star, Reusse, and Sid each week (is it even on anymore—I don’t live in MN)? That is the very definition of a train wreck from which you cannot turn away.

by rencito on Nov 30, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Golden opportunity wasted

All the cuts at the STrib and they can’t seem to dump Reusse. I think they may have stopped paying him and he just keeps showing up anyway.

by DJL44 on Nov 27, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Complete tangent

I’m watching the classic black and white Home Run Derby on ESPN Classic right now. Harmon Killebrew vs Willie Mays. Man, Killer’s swing was really sweet. Willie Mays had the typical swing of his era—all out on his front foot. Killer’s swing is timeless. That being said, Mays still beat him! I think I may have to buy an old school Minneapolis Millers jersey with Mays number on it.

Okay, so that wasn’t a tangent. It was a complete off topic post. Sorry, but I had to share with someone.

by rencito on Nov 28, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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