Rays to Deal Akinori Iwamura to Pirates for Jesse Chavez
UPDATE: Buster Olney at ESPN says the Pirates are sending reliever Jesse Chavez to the Rays. Chavez is 26 and had a decent season in relief this year. If this turns out to be true, I'm fine with the Twins not trying to match that offer.
Chavez, 26 for 2010, just finished his first full season in the bigs, posting a 4.01 ERA in 73 appearances and 67.1 innings. He struck out 47 while giving up 22 walks and and 69 hits. He throws a 95-mph fastball with a very good hard slider and a plus changeup. His biggest advantage over someone like Jesse Crain: he'll be under team control through roughly 2014.
UPDATE: Hat tip to fischean, it looks like Pittsburgh might be the NL team on the move for Iwamura. Source? None other than Dan Kovacevik. There's also been some unconfirmed talk of the Marlins being involved...which is exactly where the Twins are at: speculationville.
UPDATE: Roger Mooney of BradentonHerald.com says Iwamura’s trade should be completed tonight…to an NL club. He gives no sources.
This from Marc Tompkin of the St. Petersburg Times. Are the Twins a fit? With the Twins clearing space on the 40-man roster today by outrighting Brian Buscher (hat tip to 33MorneauMVP), could Minnesota be trying to get an early start on their off-season?
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Yes, I would put money on it happening by EOD
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Normally, when you make room on the 40-man, you do it as a group, not in one-offs
This would also mean the player the Rays get for him is not yet on the 40-man.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I was just thinking.
Who are you thinking? Delaney? Slama? Someone lower in the system?
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it is Delaney
or someone lower in the system. I would like to keep Slama around in the event that we look into a Nathan trade. Or Slama would be a great middle relief man out of the Twins bullpen in late 2010 as well.
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by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Jesse
I will attempt to go for the “hat trick” in Fanposts today! I cannot imagine that the Twins are not the mystery team here. Why else would they have outrighted Buscher so quickly? It cannot be a coincidence that Buscher is outrighted to free room on the 40 man and rumors of a trade in the works of Akinori can happen within the hour, can it?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I missed that you had this one, too. Good work!
I agree…the timing is most coincidental.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the comment thread at MLBTradeRumors,
a majority of people think this could definitely be the Twins.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It is too much
of a coincidence to not think the Twins are involved.
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by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he a good fit? Yes.
He is exactly what the Twins need: A versatile guy with a solid glove and a bat and very good speed (though not Ichiro speed as he had when he came over). If by chance Casilla shakes his demons, they can platoon Aki with Valencia at third.
I was thinking it would be either Slama or Delaney. The Twins have the leverage because the Rays are just trying to save the $550,000 buyout.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
interesting contract situation
I was on Cot’s and saw he has a clause that the Rays had to either resign him at the end of the four years or let him go as a free agent. So it sounds like it would be for one year of Iwamura and the Twins wouldn’t get compensation for offering him arbitration at the end of the year.
I realize I’m getting a bit ahead of myself but this makes the trade more interesting in that the Twins really shouldn’t give much up for him if it’s only one year and he’s a non-tender candidate.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
A mid-level prospect should get this done, and I’m not opposed to a one-year deal. At Iwamura’s age I’m confident he can perform this season, but I’d want to see how he looked before putting him down for more than a year in a Twins uniform.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DAMMIT
Looks like my planned feature for Friday, “Brian Buscher: Poet-Warrior of The Hot Corner,” is shot to hell. Back to the drawing board.
by RandBall's Stu on Nov 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
How about something on Nick Punto's newest forearm workout book?
I heard it’s 250 pages, and all about the forearms.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not available to minors
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by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone make sense of this for me.
No, I am not asking Stu for an in-depth investigation into Boof Bonser’s missing half: did Jose Mijares eat it?
Iwamura. Offensively he is Brendan Harris, but will cost 4.5 times as much for a team that is a bit cash strapped.
Sure his defense is better than Harris’ by a good margin, but his defense doesn’t look nearly as good at 3rd. In fact, at third, harris appears to be just as adequate. And Harris is quite a bit more versatile.
I’m not saying harris is the answer, but if all the projections about how much money the Twins have to devote to an increase in payroll are correct, Iwamura appears to be a small upgrade for a lot more money.
I don’t see how he is worth 4.5 million to the Twins team.
by montanatwinsfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not quite
Harris 2009 OPS+: 82
Aki 2009 OSP+: 94
Still, they were close before 2009, when Harris tanked. Defensively, though, they are not close.
Is it worth the money? I say yes. But it’s not my money. And if having Iwamura means they can’t upgrade at short or sign Pavano, I see your point and I raise you a couple of sheep.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is something I'll get into if this actually goes through,
but Iwamura’s additional contributions aren’t obvious. But they’re there. These are all career numbers.
Stat—Iwamura—Harris
BB%—10.1—7.3
K%—21.4—19.7
wOBA—.331—.316
LD%—20.2—17.5
O-Swing%—17.2—22.9
Combining offense and defense, FanGraphs estimates that in three seasons Iwamura has played to a worth of about $27.3 million, while Harris has accumulated $11.3 in more seasons.
Iwamura is faster, more patient and is a better defender. His biggest advantage is that he’s good enough to play everyday.
Anyway I’ll leave it there for now. But we’ll disect it further if it happens.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks,
as Cmath said above, and I said above, those marginal upgrades are all upgrades, but they are still marginal and dont seem worth it IF the dollars spent mean not upgrading somewhere else. Of course the fangraphs estimates you present in terms of dollar value are significant, but…
anyway, all over now.
by montanatwinsfan on Nov 3, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Via MLBTradeRumors:
Roger Mooney of BradentonHerald.com says Iwamura’s trade should be completed tonight…to an NL club. He gives no sources.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Pirates are apparently one of the teams in consideration
According to this guy.
Interesting.
by fischean on Nov 3, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's the dearth of interesting twins news...
that’s making me optimistic. But I still think the release of Buscher is funny timing. Maybe they are talking to several teams, and the Twins are just preparing for the possibility of adding him. I refuse to believe we wouldn’t be in on this if the Pirates are!
by dctwin on Nov 3, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the
“to a NL club” is wrong. I would really like to see Aki in Minnesota for three reasons:
1. Akinori is a nice #2 hitter to have in front of Mauer. Akinori can field his position (2B) well. Aki provides the club with a speedy type player, who can play small ball to advance the runners. Aki would fit well in Gardy’s order.
2. It keeps Casilla/Tolbert/Punto off second. If this deal does go through, we may see Punto at SS (which is actually where he fields his best), but at least it cuts down on the possibility of seeing Casilla/Tolbert/Harris/other at 2B. This in my mind, is a huge plus.
3. If the Twins trade for Akinori, Mauer would more likely sign an extension (hometown discount). Mauer wants to see the Twins improve, as he said last season. If they can trade for Aki, Mauer would see this as an attempt to improve the club – thus, he would be more willing to sign an extension at a hometown discount.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
@@#&$^ Star Trib
Moments like this I really get bothered by the Strib
Joe C has the Buscher news but no context to as why, and what it means and why before the WS ends…
La Velle has nothing, and the Strib’s Twitter page has nothing too.
by clutterheart on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's because anything else is just pure speculation.
Nobody anywhere has actually said “the Twins are interested”, which makes it hard for them as reporters to come out and talk about it. I’m sure they’re aware of it though and are looking into it.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think clutterheart's
point here is that they have not shed any light on the reason for Buscher being outrighted. It may be connected with Aki or it may not, but if they do know something, then they should say so. If they do not, then they should say, “details to come later”.
Outrighting Buscher at this point in time is a strange thing, unless they are in these Aki talks.
But clutterheart’s point here is that at the Strib they say nothing about Buscher and his assignment.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It would have been nice if Joe C. or La Velle could have asked for a comment on Aki or Buscher from a Twins source, even if it would have resulted in a “no comment.” Maybe we’ll get a comment later tonight about it – the whole thing developed pretty quickly.
by Mike I on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, LENIII said he was "on the Twins' radar" about two weeks ago
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by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pure speculation
is the fuel that keeps my hot stove burning.
by clutterheart on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do not the Twins usually do this?
The media makes it sound like the Twins are the last people in the world that a certain player would be traded to, but beneath the scenes, the Twins FO is working hard to trade for that certain player.
Along comes the trade announcement, and low and behold, that certain player did go to the Twins. I have to believe that the Twins are the mystery team (dark horse) here. We never really heard about the Santana trade to the Mets until it was completed!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's not exactly true...
…the Mets had a window to extend Santana. We knew about that ahead of time, and that’s technically before the deal was done.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely looks like the Pirates now
The TampaBay.com article updated to say unequivocally that the Pirates were the other team involved. Still not official, though.
by Mike I on Nov 3, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boo.
Even unofficial, that doesn’t sound very promising. :(
by fischean on Nov 3, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I hope the Twins are trying really hard to wrench him away from the Pirates. I can’t believe that there was no coincidence with the outrighting of Buscher and this. There has to be some sort of connection.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Heyman...
…just said sources have confirmed that it’s the Pirates. I hope we go hard after Uggla.
by Twins Territory on Nov 3, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Uggla would be a great pickup. However, I find it hard to believe the Twins would go hard after him based on the fact that no Twins rumors surfaced in the Akinori trade.
It is hard to imagine that the Twins, who had a good chance to pickup Aki, would try to get Uggla, who may have more power, but in the long run, I would rather have the #2 hitter in Aki (who is the better defender of the two.)
If we manage to get Uggla, I will be amazed, based on the fact that they apparently (as much as we can tell) had no interest in Akinori (who is more of a Twins type player).
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's sound.
But no doubt the Twins have already made their off-season plans and selected their targets, if any. Maybe that includes Uggla or maybe it doesn’t, but an apparent lack of interest in Iwamura shouldn’t really alter our views on other players. We don’t know what the Twins were doing in regards to Aki; maybe they were involved, dumped Buscher and then the Pirates came in and have offered a better prospect. It’s hard to say when we don’t know the whole story.
I do agree than Aki is more of a “Twins player” than Uggla, but they both constitute an upgrade, in different ways.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
However
if the Twins did have their selected targets beforehand, this makes no sense. The Twins should always have their ideal figures that they want to pick up, but to have no “interest” (as far as we know) in another player – who is more of that teams type of player – is just obtuse.
The Twins FO should have been all over this trade, because I think we all know that Uggla will be even harder to get and will cost a lot more prospects. Iwamura would have done just fine for a trade swap of a reliever in the minors/majors.
Uggla will command more than a minor/major league reliever. Iwamura, based on the price of contract and prospects, would have been the target I would have had.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree with you that
if the Twins weren’t involved, that they should have been. I think that’s pretty obvious. But why assume the Twins weren’t involved? I’m sure they were on some level.
Like I said, we don’t know everything that’s transpired. Let’s wait and see who team X has to give up for Iwamura before we hang the FO.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what do u think we would have to give up for Uggla?
Vikings 4 the superbowl
by RaysOfHope on Nov 4, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Something decent.
I haven’t examined the needs of the Rays, or where they’d like to bolster their farm system, so I wouldn’t know where to start.
by Jesse on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Marlins
that is…OF and maybe bullpen are their problem areas, I think. Outside of that, I wouldn’t know.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 4, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right...that OTHER Florida team.
Oops.
If that is the case, then I don’t know…if they asked for something like Young/Delaney or Crain/Benson I wouldn’t say no.
by Jesse on Nov 4, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a done deal.
Headed to the Pirates.
For lame.
by fischean on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Rays were asking for too much?
But I bet they only get a middling prospect or two from the Pirates.
by Mike I on Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really know...
and really, as far as any of us know, the Twins were never interested.
Haha, gotta love speculation. :)
by fischean on Nov 3, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTraderumors
finds it hard to understand why the Pirates would take on Akinori, given his contract, although he is worth it. Is that contract, plus having to give up a player, going to make the Pirates balk at the last second?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
given he's only around for one year
Like I pointed out earlier, he doesn’t seem like the kind of player to go to a team that’s in rebuilding mode. This really makes little sense for the Pirates unless they’re working out an extension with him.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Nov 3, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it seems to go
against every Huntington is trying to do with his team – make them younger. Aki is 30-31…hardly “young” especially for a 2B. Akinori to the Pirates (even if there is an extension going on) doesn’t seem right. Huntington is trying to get younger, but adds a 30-31 year old second baseman? Why did he not keep Freddy Sanchez then?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT point about not keeping Sanchez.
Aki might be a little cheaper, but not significantly, and neither player is significantly better than the other right now, either.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
So the Pirates get a few prospects for Sanchez, but then give it away for Akinori? This makes no sense…Akinori may be about $4M less, but the level of talent is the same and I do believe that Sanchez was the younger of the two. This makes no sense…could there be a possibility that the Rays and Twins are trying to lead the media astray…again?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
Roger Mooney had no insight whatsoever into who this NL team may be….why would we know within 20 minutes of that article’s production who the NL team was? This all seems to have happened very quickly, maybe too quickly.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not Mooney's article,
it’s Kovacevic’s Twitter update. He’s Pittsburgh’s version of Joe C. or LEN III, which tells me he wouldn’t be talking about the Pirates and Rays if he didn’t have a good reason.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
The more I’m reading about this the more it seems to make no sense. I’m not super disappointed because I don’t want the Twins to go after a 1 year fix. I’d take it over nothing but I don’t see anyone that’s close to contributing for the Twins at 2B or SS.
This only makes sense if he signs a contract and even then it’s an odd move for Pittsburgh.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Nov 3, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez was $4mm more expensive
But I agree, it doesn’t make too much sense. You gotta give the fans something, some veteran players, I suppose.
by Mike I on Nov 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it either
If I’m the Pirates, I’d rather have someone like Casilla who’s cheap and has upside. Aki is good, but he’s expensive for his skills, he’s on the bad side of 30 and he’s a major injury risk. His partially torn ACL was never surgically repaired, so it’s a career-ending injury waiting to happen.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I AM
a pirates fan. I would rather have Iwamura than Casilla.
by Milt on Tilt on Nov 3, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
secondary
to being a Twins fan. As long as one is doing well, I’m happy.
by Milt on Tilt on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much banking on the Twins then?
As long as one is doing well, I’m happy.
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Nov 3, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McCutchen, Pedro Alvarez, and Tony Sanchez =
2013 World Champions!
by Milt on Tilt on Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so, they are free agents in 2012
and are going to sign with the Yankees?
by montanatwinsfan on Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is cruel
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Traded to the Yankees in 2011
of course…
by Adam Peterson on Nov 3, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mock all you want
But as soon as 2011 both McCutchen and Alverez will be stars at 24 a piece.
by Milt on Tilt on Nov 5, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that
McCutchen is a REALLY good player! Possibly will be the best CF in the league for many years. Alvarez looks really good, but it will be hard to evaluate him until he is in the major leagues – but I sure wouldn’t have minded if he had slid down to the Twins spot in the draft order.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 5, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I predict Pirates over Royals in 6
But only after a tense NLCS Game 7 Pirates win against the powerhouse Nationals.
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Nov 5, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit
It would have been nice to get Iwamura on this team
by TonyO on Nov 3, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney Reports that the Rays will reciever Minor League Reliever Jessie Chavez for Iwamura...
Really?…We couldn’t match that?
by TonyO on Nov 3, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
It looks more and more like Jesse Crain for Akinori Iwamura could have gotten it done. Crain may actually be the better pitcher – not sure though of course.
Jesse Crain or Bobby Keppel or both certainly would have gotten this deal done, in my mind.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Nov 3, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesse Chavez is a pretty good pitcher.
History of strikeouts, still under team control for five more years, 95-mph fastball a very good hard slider and a plus changeup. Honestly, if I’m the Rays, I’d rather have Chavez than Crain.
Nobody wants Bobby Keppel.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody wants Bobby Keppel.
Heh.
Apparently nobody wants Jesse Crain either. Think of it this way: so many more Crainwreck/Akeppelypse references next year! Yayyy!
by fischean on Nov 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll need to start getting the pictures ready
I don’t know if Keppel will be back though – there are enough other possible long relief guys.
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Nov 3, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would actually not be surprised if he's not here next year
but if so, I’m going to prepare this winter…
by fischean on Nov 3, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but
then the Rays would have to pay Crain 2.5 M or whatever he would expect to get in Arbitration. I can see why they wouldn’t want that.
by Milt on Tilt on Nov 3, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Additionally, if the Twins were going to trade a guy from their 40-man roster, then the Brian Buscher move was completely unrelated and was just a coincidence.
And by that logic, if the Buscher move was just a coincidence, then all of our speculation today was for nothing anyway.
I love speculation. And Aki would have been a good guy to get. But he had his fair share of cons, and nobody anywhere today mentioned that A) the Twins were talking to Tampa or B) that dropping Brian was done for anything other than removing a below-average player from the 40-man.
by Jesse on Nov 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rays fan here as well
i hate Keppel
Vikings 4 the superbowl
by RaysOfHope on Nov 4, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too rich for my blood
To give up a valuable reliever and spend a third of your discretionary cash for a one-year rental who’s a marginal upgrade is not wise. When I thought it was mostly about money and a prospect, I was fine with it. But not for someone like Crain.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else
Suprised the Pirates would do this?
How does trading a solid, cheap, ptching prospect for a guy like Iwamura fit into their rebuilding?
by clutterheart on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only five (or so) more months of trade rumors and speculations to go!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 3, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Iwamura would have been a nice upgrade at 2B
and given us flexibility to grab a SS or 3B. However, there are better options out there, I’m holding out hope that dropping Buscher is a sign that we’re working on something else.
by Adam Peterson on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pure salary dump
Visit www.TwinsCards.com and check out "rosters" to see my collection!
by rosterman on Nov 4, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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