Where will Glen Perkins be on April 1, 2010?

by roger13 on Dec 1, 2009 4:26 PM EST

Glen Perkins began 2009 as one of the most successful pitchers in the starting rotation. Well at least for the first month or so. He then ran into a series of injuries, most of which surfaced after a bad stretch on the mound. Perkins did not improve his relationship with his skipper, and I suspect others in the upper echelons of management.

After a rehab stint in Florida, Bill Smith optioned Perkins to Rochester rather than bring him back to the Twins for September. The effect is that Perkins missed enough service time to be eligible for arbitration as a super Two. Perkins then filed a grievance complaint with the union in an attempt to recover the service time. Although the terms aren't available, the Twins have acknowledged that, 1) the grievance has been settled without going to a hearing; 2) Perkins received some additional service time; and 3) Perkins was signed to a one-year contract, the terms of which are not available.

So what does this all mean?

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Where will Glen Perkins be on April 1, 2010?

In the Minnesota Twins starting rotation

11 votes

In the Twins Bullpen

23 votes

He will be traded prior to spring training

122 votes

He will be traded during spring training

21 votes

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I hope he won't be with the Twins

by caluofmn on Dec 1, 2009 5:01 PM EST reply actions

He will be in Florida

Playing for the Marlins… These two teams seem like very logical trading partners.

by diehardtwinsfan on Dec 1, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions

The title sounds like the lead-in to an April Fools joke

Twins: “Hey Perkins, we traded you away… for nothing, just like Jason Tyner!”

Perkins: @#$%

Twins: “April Fools!”

But to answer the question more seriously, I also expect him to be traded. Seems like enough bad blood between Perkins and the Twins that he won’t be back.

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 1, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions

Trade Perkins

but it has to be for something. Even in the AL, he has value as a #5 starter. Perhaps a 1.5-2.0 WAR ceiling, but there’s some value. If we’re not going to get anything, then let him compete for the last spot in the rotation.

by Adam Peterson on Dec 1, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions

What does it mean........

They signed him for a decent contract, somewhere between $450,000 and $1 million.

But, is he still optionable to Rochester, or do they have to break spring training with him on the 25. That’s the question. If the Twins could pacle him at Rochester, I imagine they will (as they might Neshek…having someone in reserve allows them to keep, say, Boof and Duensing to start the season).

His worth is practically zero right now. He needs to show soemthing to egt some trade value. If he ahd been arbitration eligible, he probably would’ve got his walking papers and ended up siging with someone for basically what the Twins are paying him.

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by rosterman on Dec 1, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions

he's not that bad!

Remember, he really was injured. If he’s healthy, he has a lot more value than he showed last year. He can start, or be a valuable lefty reliever.

I know it’s a taboo to blame performance on injuries. But it’s also kind of silly to make believe they don’t matter. I’d cut him some slack if all he did wrong was not playing the phony PR game right.

Of course sometimes when you hear about something small, there’s a lot more there that you don’t hear about.

He could be an innocent guy who tried to play through an injury, or he could be a complete jerk. I don’t really care. But I think he has value, and if he is traded, I hope it’s for someone good, not just a peevish efffort to rid the coach of people who irritate him, like Garza and Bartlett. He can play in this league, and he should bring back someone who can too, or they should keep him. There aren’t a lot of sure things in that rotation; in a way, the biggest thing it has going for it is depth. And he’s a big part of that depth.

by by jiminy on Dec 2, 2009 8:56 AM EST reply actions

They seem to have reconciled

Perkins dropped his grievance. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him fighting for a rotation spot in spring training. That said, I think he has enough trade value that, if the Twins went after a Josh Johnson, he could be a key piece.

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by cmathewson on Dec 2, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions

josh johnson isnt getting traded

everyone needs to drop that idea

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by RaysOfHope on Dec 2, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions

Nolasco?

YA!

The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot.

by DaTwins on Dec 2, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions

And you know this.....how?

by lookatthosetwins on Dec 2, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions

Marlins GM said so

For what its worth – http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/josh-johnson-wont-be-traded-this-offseason.html

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 2, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions

Ha

Got me there I guess. I still think I’d put the odds of him being traded somewhere north of zero.

by lookatthosetwins on Dec 3, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions

Perkins still has value

Not a ton, but I expect he would provide some value, between 1-2 WAR, as a #5 starter next year. He’ll be in the mix for our #5 spot unless he’s traded as part of some package, likely to an NL team.

In 2008, Perkins’ 4.41 ERA was much lower than his 5.14 FIP. Last year, his ERA (5.89) was way out of line of his 4.66 FIP. Things balanced out.

by Adam Peterson on Dec 2, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah

he projects somewhere in Jarrod Washburn territory – 4.8 FIP maybe? Probably 5.0 or higher ERA with our OF defense?

by lookatthosetwins on Dec 3, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions

Sounds about right

depending on how Target Field plays as a HR hitting ballpark.

by Adam Peterson on Dec 4, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions

Out of options

He was added to the 40man in 9/06 and spent parts of 07, 08, 09 in the minors. He’ll either need to be on the 25 man or traded or lost waivers.

His velocity was down 1mph last year. I’d expect that to bounce back assuming he’s recovered from his injuries. His fastball went from +1.55runs/100 pitches in 2007 to -0.44 runs/100 in 2009 as his velocity went from 92mph to 89.7mph.

by Jon Kammerer on Dec 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions

I know it's total anecdotal stuff

but I know several people who have interacted with the guy personally who insist that he is a true grade-A douchenozzle. I’m gonna lean towards the “Perkins is a whiny brat” explanation and expect him to get traded somewhere. He’s got value, and we’re deep at his role.

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by ravenfly on Dec 2, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions