Atkins to Baltimore

by bighead306 on Dec 16, 2009 11:28 PM EST

According to Mlbtraderumors Garrett Atkins has signed with the orioles.

This is great news just because it means the Twins wont sign him.

Also this gives a better opportunity to sign someone like Adrian Beltre or Mark DeRosa at 3rd

It seems Boston is going after Adrian Gonzalez and moving the Kevin Youkilis to 3rd.

How many other teams need a 3rd basemen? It seems the Twins might get an above average 3rd basemen for cheaper than the market valued.

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Giants

San Francisco is also looking for a third sacker. They were talking with Padres about Kouz and also expressed interest in DeRosa.

Baltimore seemed to be the Twins competition for Crede.

So, looks like the Twins may just hold out for Crede! But, depends on what the Giants do.

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by rosterman on Dec 17, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions

Giants

should just leave Kung Fu Panda at 3rd

by caluofmn on Dec 17, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions

Yes

Tru dat, Respect the PANDA

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by Baby_K on Dec 17, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

Mariners and St Louis

Since Derosa is a FA St Louis will need to resign him or get a new one.

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by doofus on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply actions

Baltimore gets Atkins.
San Fran going after DeRosa.
Mariners – ?
St. Louis – Troy Glaus, ?
Twins – Crede, Kouzmanoff

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by BCTwins on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions

Mariners have Figgins

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by cmathewson on Dec 17, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions

ah yes

I forgot about the Mariners signing Figgins.

Change it to the LA Angels then…unless they are willing to put Brandon Wood at 3B for next year. I have a feeling that the Angels will not reach the playoffs next year and that it will be the Ms on top of the west.

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by BCTwins on Dec 17, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

I wouldn't mind Glaus

I like it. More players than teams. I’m hopign that means getting Kouz, Crede, or Glaus very cheap.

by diehardtwinsfan on Dec 17, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions

Price is coming down on infielders

Dave Cameron at Fangraphs wrote about the glut of 2B. Carroll signed for $2M/season. DeRosa’s asking price is down to 3 years $18M and nobody is biting yet. The Red Sox might stick Kotchman at 1B and Youkilis at 3B, leaving Beltre on the market.

by DJL44 on Dec 17, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions

Yeah Boston is going to play a big role

If they don’t sign Beltre, that brings everyone’s price down.

by lookatthosetwins on Dec 17, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions

Kouz

I feel is a better choice over crede, for crede cant stay healthy. I wouldn’t mind crede though by all mean. Just curious does anyone know crede’s WAR

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by Baby_K on Dec 17, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions

fangraphs.com

is where I get all my stats. Crede’s page here.

Crede was worth 1.7 WAR last year, at -6.6 batting and +12.5 fielding runs.

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by ravenfly on Dec 17, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions

What's Kouz's WAR ???? or Beltre etc.

by b1 on Dec 17, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions

Last 3 years WAR and games played

Crede
2009: 1.9 WAR in 90 games
2008: 1.8 WAR in 97 games
2007: 0.1 WAR in 47 games

Beltre
2009: 2.4 WAR in 111 games
2008: 4.1 WAR in 143 games
2007: 3.0 WAR in 149 games

Kouzmanoff
2009: 2.7 in 141 games
2008: 2.8 in 154 games
2007: 2.7 in 145 games

"So [Kouzmanoff]’s going to make decent monkey, but he’d be affordable." - Jesse

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 17, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions

I'd take Kouz

by b1 on Dec 17, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions

Park-adjusted?

Does WAR attempt to adjust for home park? Kouz and Beltre played in pitcher’s parks, while Crede was in one hitter’s parks and one neutral park.

I’m impressed with how close Kouzmanoff’s results are to Beltre’s.

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by BeefMaster on Dec 18, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions

Kouz v Crede

Kouz = Crede + the ability to stay on the field

by DJL44 on Dec 18, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions

I just gave the link

Sometimes it’s okay to look things up yourself.

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by ravenfly on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

how much

would you pay for beltre?

by bighead306 on Dec 18, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions

Wow, Seattle looks good

After dealing for Cliff Lee and signing Chone Figgins, they’ve managed to deal the useless Carlos Silva for Milton Bradley. This actually saves them $$ for the next 2 seasons.

by DJL44 on Dec 18, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions

Since the end of 2008

when Seattle got their new GM, they’ve made a number of really good moves…
- Trading Putz, getting Gutierrez in return
- Signing Endy Chavez to give them a great bunch of “range” outfielders
- Getting rid of Yuniesky Betancourt, ultimately getting Jack Wilson (not great, but definitely an upgrade)
- Giving the keys to 1B to Branyan
- David Aardsma as closer
- Getting value for Jarrod Washburn at the trading deadline
- Trading for Cliff Lee, without giving up anyone on their roster

Now, getting rid of an unproductive albatross for a more productive (when healthy) albatross is another good move. Watch out for the Mariners…

by Adam Peterson on Dec 18, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions