Twinkie Town Top 50...Voting for Number 1
by roger13 on Dec 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST
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PrintThe voting is now open for the Top spot in the 2009 Twinkie Town Top 50. The voting will be open until 3pm on Friday afternoon at which time we will move on to our second top prospect. Please include in the comments section your recommendations of who should be added to the next ballot. Also, any player not getting at least 5% of the votes will be removed automatically. So we could be adding two or three players in each subsequent ballot.
Candidates for the Top spot include:
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Tough choice
A lot of high upside guys in here. But in the end I went with Ramos, for a good combination of high potential, great defensive numbers, and great results through AA. That’s not to take away from any of the other choices; I think you could make a legitimate argument in favor of any of them.
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions
Just edit it quick
Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 3, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
I have Aaron Hicks 1; and then probably Ramos 2
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 3, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions
It's Hicks
He’ll be a top 30 baseball america prospect this year. Ramos is a nice catching prospect but 1) he does get hurt and 2) he can’t hit a breaking ball.
he can’t hit a breaking ball.
He can’t?
I have not heard that and I think there is a lot of AA guys who have a breaking ball…so if that is true I am suprised.
If it IS true then I would have to rethink my vote for him as the #1 Prospect.
That's BS
You don’t get an OPS over 1.000 in the VWL if you can’t hit a breaking ball. Latin pitchers are particularly adept at throwing breaking balls.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Both Jim Callis and Kieth Law have mentioned in thier prospect chats on ESPN.com and LEN quoted a Twin scout about it. He struck out over 100 times in 08.
well Ramos must have been getting
better at breaking pitches since ’08
I’d be baffled if he couldn’t handle such a pitch, but absolutely destroy most of his competition.
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 4, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
He also has not been injury prone...
…he played all of 2008 and 2007 without any major injuries. This season he had two, unfortunately, one was a broken finger. He is a catcher, those things are gonna happen. His bit of an injury a couple weeks ago was a collision at home plate. But it kept him out only a couple days.
Am I wrong?
He only played in 73 of 140 games in Beloit in 07. Where else did he play that year? I’m pretty sure I remember him having injuries that year, too.
He began the season in EST...
…joined the Snappers about 4-5 weeks into the season. Proceeded to be their best hitter after the all-star break when Valencia was sent to Ft. Myers.
I went with Wilson
cause he is good offensively and defensively, and he appears to be close to being ready for the call up. After that I would go with Revere as he two excells in his lane of the game and he should be in AA next year. I would like to see Hicks get more seasoning before I move him back up my prospect list. He may have better all round tools but he still has to make the adjustments in his game and have some more results. I believe they will come but not now for the top ranking in this seasons 50 top prospects.
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Hicks... Aaron Hicks
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
Ramos
Results on offense and defense and has done well in AA. What he’s doing in winter ball is amazing.
I voted Miguel Jean
Because he’s a beast with tremondous upside and we dont have our for sure 3B of da future with new specultaion on Valencia, and when he gets to da Majors he’ll be da first Twins Jersey I ever buy.
Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions
Possible Hicks comp
I was looking at old prospect lists, and Adam Jones had a lot in common with Hicks. Former pitchers. Center field, good hitter, fast.
Thoughts?
The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot.
athletically, yes
his bat is behind Jones’s though
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Huge Ramos fan...
But Hicks is the Easy choice for me.
As far as who to add to the poll next...
I think my next few votes will probably all be guys you already have up there. But if I had to add some new guys, I would probably go with Salcedo, and then Tosoni.
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 3, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions
I use my hypothetical 'trade value' litmus test
And I determine that right now, Ramos would be the marquee piece in any trade. Revere and Bromberg would be next.
I don't see the Twins doing anything with Ramos at this time...
…maybe when Mauer is under contract they may consider something, but not before.
Exactly
Pretty much the same as Bill Simmons on ESPN.com does with his Top 100 in the NBA. Ramos has more trade value than any other prospect in our organization, IMO. Hicks is up there, but he hasn’t shown anything above A ball yet. Yet.
by Adam Peterson on Dec 4, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Ramos!
If this is based only on upside I might have to go another way, but he has upside AND has very good offensive and fantastic defensive numbers.
I like Hicks, Jean, Morales, Revere and Valencia.
But none of those guys have put up the numbers of Ramos.
Certainly an improvement from last season
Adding Jean and Gibson to the top prospects helps, as does the success Ramos is having in winter ball. I think we may be reading too much into the winter league numbers, but three months from now, we will be Ramos in spring training.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Dec 4, 2009 10:28 AM EST reply actions
BA system ratings
Twins system rated in the 6-15 zone. Above average and equal or better than every central team but Cleveland.
Why not Instant Runoff Voting?
Just sorta kidding, we’d be here all winter and get to #3.
Did Mijuel Jean just get 60 votes in the last 3 hours?
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
His agent put out a call
to Dominica, promised them a new baseball field for voting in a poll.
How about limiting poll participation to actual TT members in good standing for 3 months?
by Old Twins Cap on Dec 4, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
or just TT member that way you only get to vote once.
Let more people join if they want to vote.
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
I was also wondering about that...
…are some people able to vote more than once? And yes, Ramos was ahead by about 30 votes maybe two hours ago. Jean has gotten about 60 votes in a couple hours with no one else getting more than a few.
I'm guessing some other site member noticed our community list going on here
and got a bunch of his other fellow board members to come in here and sway or voting….
damn
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 4, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Front Office
Maybe Bill Smith made everyone in the Twins front office vote for Miguel Jean so that the owner would think that the money spent on Jean was money well spent.
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