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Twins Unable to Separate From Jarrod Washburn Rumors

Why, oh WHY, does Washburn's name keep coming up?

Yesterday afternoon John Hickey, over at seattlepi.com, discussed in his Mariners blog the interest the Twins have had in Jarrod Washburn over the last few months.  It was confirmed late in the 2008 season that Minnesota had inquired on the veteran left-hander, and now over the winter it's been one of the few names-slash-rumors that's refused its rightful death.

While Seattle desperately attempts to clear money to bring in a legitimate free agent or two, their issues are two-fold:  not only moving dead weight veterans but convincing their takers to pay them as well.  Carlos Silva, Miguel Batista and Washburn are the big three, and suffice it to say there aren't many suitors.

Yet after the Twins made their attempt on Washburn last fall, it seems their interest wasn't suited to just an autumn push.  Hickey's report alleges a deal involving the Seattle hurler, 25-year old catcher Jeff Clement, and of all people Delmon Young, recently fell through.

After all this, I'm left thinking:  In what parrallel universe does picking up Jarrod Washburn and his $10.35 million contract make a lick of sense?  Because at face value, it doesn't make sense.  Let's run down a few reasons why.

  1. Jarrod Washburn doesn't pitch like a $10 million dollar pitcher.
  2. The Twins already having five young, inexpensive, and relatively effective starting pitchers...
  3. ...with a couple guys on the way.
  4. Jeff Clement and his .286/.377/.494 minor league line are great, but we have Joe Mauer.  Thanks.
  5. Delmon Young is still too talented to use as a chip in a deal netting Washburn and Clement.

If the reports of this failed deal are accurate, there has to be more to it than what we see at face value.  Joe Christensen suspects something similar, thinking that "perhaps the Twins had plans to spin Clement off as part of another deal."

Now that makes sense.

Clement has plenty of value as a good, young, offensive catcher, who would be under team control for the next handful of seasons.  Flip him and a good, young pitcher (say Nick Blackburn, Glen Perkins, Anthony Swarzak, even Kevin Slowey), and you're suddenly dealing from a situation that would draw interest from most teams in baseball.

With a spot unexpectedly open in the rotation, Washburn has an actual role to play with the Twins.  He becomes the token veteran, capable to eating some innings if nothing else.  While that massive contract isn't pretty, with team payroll far under what it could be there's no reason the Twins couldn't take the hit for one season until he becomes a free agent.  Particularly if the Mariners would pick up part of the tab, this whole scenario starts to become a bit more feasible.

Having assumed all of this, to make myself feel better I have to take it one final step and also assume that the Twins had a specific team in mind for flipping Clement (plus change).  There still seems little use in trading a young, talented hitter like Delmon for an overpriced pitcher and a redundant catcher, no matter how talented he might be.

Actions can be difficult to comprehend until you know the motive, and in this situation I have to believe the Twins' motive involved more than this one transaction.  For now it's dead in the water, which is perfectly fine with me, but don't be surprised if Washburn's name comes up again sometime soon.

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Extent of actual exchange between Bill Smith and Jack Zduriencik

BS: Listen Jack it should come as no surprised as to the nature of my call.

Jack: Yea, yea i know. You really need a veteran pitcher to anchor your staff.

BS: Actually we ditched that whole philosophy, turns out the kids can handle it. I was referring to Adrian Beltre.

Jack: Oh you don’t want him he’s a hack. How about trusty, reliable Jarrod Washburn? He’s done real well against you after all… that’s a great basis acquiring a guy!

BS: Umm not really. Oh what the hell. What do you want for him?

Jack: How about that kid nobody really likes?

BS: You’ll have to be more specific.

Jack: That guy who was holding Tampa back from going to the World Series and kept you guys out the playoffs of course. Terrible clubhouse cancer, terrible tragedy, real sad. Real sad. I know lets punish him together, couple years of rainy Seattle outta do it.

BS: You mean Delmon Young (staring blankly at the wall in front of him).

Jack: Oh is that his name… (pretending to shuffle about and whisper to other people in the office)… Yes, my low expectations man verified his name.

BS: Okay, just for humor. Why would I want 1 year of an extremely overpriced veteran for 3 plus years of a young, inexpensive and talented player who’s not even started reach his full potential?

Jack:….

BS: (2 very long minutes later) Jack?

Jack: Okay I got your back. Just to make sure the papers tomorrow write about how badly you swindled me I’ve got a great kicker for ya. I’ll throw in Jeff Clement.

BS: Umm… (confused). Who?

Jack: Why you insult me! Jeff is the best catching prospect in the game!!

BS: (Growing weary) I have a catcher if you hadn’t noticed.

Jack: Yeah he’s real versatile though, he can play 1st base too!

BS: (Now annoyed) I’m not even going to respond to that.

Jack: How about DHing, you guys really need help with that too.

BS: (Now borderline belligerent) What the hell Jack! I just gave my DH a 3 year extension last week!!!

Jack: Oh just so you know I’ll need Kevin Slowey too to make the deal fair.

BS: -- Click -

Jack: Billy buddy?

Gardenhire's major league career: Banjo hitting, futility infielder who couldn't lick it.
Rick Anderson's major league career: Strikethrower who never made it happen with his sub 90's fastball.
Really gives a new definition to living vicariously through other people, don't it?

by caseintheface on Feb 3, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The amazing thing is...

…The Twins and Mariners actually had a deal for Washburn last August and the Marnires’ team president nixed it. If the Twins win the World Series this year, they should send that guy a ring.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 3, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"Your other right ....."

Washburn’s a lefty, Jesse. Which is probably 90% of the reason the Twins had any interest in him.

by BD57 on Feb 3, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pure speculation and bad reporting ...

While I believe the two teams might have talked, I have a hard time believing that Washburn and Clemets for Delmon was the deal they talked about – unless, of course, Seattle did all the talking.

Chances are, the reporter heard a rumor that the two GM’s had a conversation – it might have been about comp tickets for the season opener, but I like to think Smith made another run at Beltre.

Somebody in the office overhears Zduriencik taking Smith’s call and tells a few friends and they tell a few friends, etc. One of all those friends tells their friend the Seattle sports writer that his friend – someone inside the organization in the know – overheard the two GM’s talking deal.

The reporter remembers Gardy’s comments about his starting outfield, then also recalls that the Twins had tried to trade for Washburn last year. Next thing you know the trade is a done deal pending physicals.

The only problem is that it makes no sense what so ever ( for the reasons listed). Flipping Clements makes a little bit more sense, but not by much. Especially when it leaves the Twins stuck with Washburn while there are so many better unsigned pitchers out there available for much less money.

Any deal between these two teams that doesn’t include Beltre is a non-deal.

by sploorp on Feb 4, 2009 2:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Sadly, that is the kind of drivel you get in most markets, the fantasies of morons. It’s to Joe’s discredit that he quoted it without checking with the Twins’ front office first. But I don’t blame him too much: It’s a slow offseason.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 4, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beltre

Is still interesting but only if the Mariners were doing it for salary reasons and weren’t looking for equal value in return. I doubt that’s what they’d be thinking about it though so it won’t happen.

While the Twins have plenty of salary space and could take a 1 year chance on Washburn it would be foolish to do so at the expense of one our best trade pieces.

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by FishingMN on Feb 4, 2009 8:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Your last sentence

is exactly my take on it. But the Twins take and my take don’t always play friends.

by Jesse on Feb 4, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

first thing I would do if I traded

DY for Clement and Washburn would be to call Giants GM and say, “hey, I have a catcher want to trade?” haha…maybe a Matt Cain + one for Clement?

by 33MorneauMVP on Feb 4, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I doubt the Giants would be in the market for Clement. They just drafted Buster Posey as Catcher of the Future

by smoooooth on Feb 7, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the offer

Twins get: Beltre:
Mariners get: to give the Twins Washburn.

The twins would have to pony up $23 million (not going to happen), but don’t give away any talent. The Mariners save some money they can use to retool.

by snolls on Feb 4, 2009 9:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ugh

87 strikeouts in 152.3 innings? That doesn’t sound like a pitcher on the upswing. Neither does a 1.46 WHIP and the worst ERA of his career.

He did have some pretty good years with the Angels. But unless the Twins see some super-fixable flaw no one else saw, having any interest at all in this guy just seems totally baffling.

How about signing Ben Sheets for the same money, and keeping Delmon Young? Or just…not?

by by jiminy on Feb 4, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He really only had one good year

in 2002. Which looks like an abberation looking at the rest of his career. He had a pretty lucky season his last year with the angels and the Mariners foolishly overpaid for him. His FIPs for every year but ’02 are all within half a run of his 4.7 or whatever average.

by lookatthosetwins on Feb 4, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m amazed Antony admits they had a deal worked out for him last year. That would be like me admitting I failed the driving test or something.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 4, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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