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Gameday "Premium"

Just today, apparently, MLB.com has initiated Gameday "Premium". That would be just dandy, but I guess MLB wants us to pay to watch the in game highlights we have all enjoyed for free up until this point. I understand that for the $20 price, you get live radio feeds, but seriously I just want to watch the in game videos and I don't think I should have to pay for them. I'm getting sick of this. I don't really have $20 to drop (poor college student) on something that should be free, nor would I want to give in.

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MLB will try to charge us for thinking about the Twins.

“You replayed Casilla’s game-winning single in your head! That’ll be $1.50!”

by Jon Marthaler on Apr 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, there’s a plasma place right down the street from my apartment, but really I don’t want to give them my money for something that was free last year and the first few weeks of this year.

by ianmader on Apr 28, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will absolutely not pay for the premium gameday

I’ll just watch the videos after the game thank you

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Apr 28, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Back to box scores

This reminds me of how the newspaper business his managed content online at times. I remember needing to subscribe to the NY Times. When they made that change, their traffic went down 90 percent. People went to CNN.com or a hundred other free outlets instead. They eventually discovered that content is meant to be free on the Web and opened it up again. Now they make way more money on Google Ads than they ever did on subscriptions.

A similar thing happened t ESPN.com: Only the die hard fans subscribed. The rest went to FOX Sports.com. It’s not as good, but it’s good enough.

MLB will try this; a majority of current GameDay users will go back to box scores, and they’ll find a precipitous drop off in traffic. Eventually, they’ll realize that they make more money through high traffic with Google ads than selling subscription services.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Apr 28, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Not exactly utopian, though
This reminds me of how the newspaper business his managed content online at times. I remember needing to subscribe to the NY Times. When they made that change, their traffic went down 90 percent.

This is true, but there’s a huge downside – instead of trying to figure out some happy medium with premium content, they simply gave up and made the whole thing free. Which is great for us, but at the same time, it made the dead-tree version almost completely redundant, and that’s part of the reason that newspapers are hemorrhaging subscribers. I am still a loyal newspaper subscriber, but that’s largely because I like to read the paper while I eat breakfast, and it still provides some value in the form of local news (I think they still have some protected content on their website, and I simply prefer to read from paper instead of a screen).

MLB will try this; a majority of current GameDay users will go back to box scores, and they’ll find a precipitous drop off in traffic. Eventually, they’ll realize that they make more money through high traffic with Google ads than selling subscription services.

I don’t know that this will happen – GameDay is still the best option out there for the live box scores, even without the in-game highlights. As much as it ticks me off, it was a pretty canny business decision – their free product is still the best available, and since they already had the infrastructure for video highlights, any subscribers to that are pretty much pure profit (other than the administrative costs of running the service). They’ll lose people who are ticked about the change and will leave in protest, but there are lots of others for whom GameDay will still be the first choice for live scoring updates.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Apr 28, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

just curious

when “should” something be free?

If something didn’t exist two years ago, why does MLB owe it to you now at no cost?

http://noblingblings.blogspot.com/

by Aaron Fix on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

In this day and age

I have grown increasingly less willing to pay for media of any form.
I understand that mlb.com has the right to do whatever they want, but I have grown to expect such things to be free.
I think it would be a semi-different story if they decided to implement this “premium” Gameday at the beginning of the season. I am more angry that 2 days ago I was able to enjoy gameday with in game highlights that I could check periodically throughout my day/evening, but now all of a sudden there are advertisements each time I open a gameday, and I have to pay a full $20 for the whole package. And besides, in this economy, do they really need to charge us for a previously free feature? I think it’s pretty stupid.

by ianmader on Apr 28, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess we'll find out if it is stupid

If no one buys it and people start using the gameday feature at other sites (both espn and cbssportsline are better) then they will make it free again. If people do buy it, then it’s not stupid at all.

Anyhow, they were up front from the beginning of the season that the first few weeks of the season would be a “free trial” of gameday premium, after which you’d have to pay to get it. This is a pretty standard advertising technique. Just like people handing out red bulls outside of sporting events or something like that. If you drink the red bull and like it, don’t expect it to be free next time.

http://noblingblings.blogspot.com/

by Aaron Fix on Apr 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it being a free trial was unapparent to me.

by ianmader on Apr 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Plus, I misread it. I thought we had to subscribe to get any Gameday function, after having Gamreday for a couple of years without the “premium” attached. I think that would stink, mostly cause I use Gameday for after-the-fact strike zone analysis.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Apr 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

ESPN’s version of gameday kinda stinks

by montanatwinsfan on Apr 28, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But ESPN.com has unicorns!

Honestly, GameDay was so far ahead of the other ones a couple years ago that I haven’t bothered to check ESPN or CBSSportsLine recently enough to know what they look like now.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Apr 28, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me, the highlights were a pilot program

to determine whether people wanted it and could they do it. Now that they have the answers they needed, MLB is making it just one more thing you can purchase to follow your team. I’m neutral on this, I’d be upset if I were a customer but I’m not. MLB lost me w/ gameday a few seasons go. I use another service on the rare day that I can’t watch the Twins on extra innings.

plus who needs it when we have the human gameday here on TT.

by caluofmn on Apr 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Radio

Included in the $20 premium gameday package is the ability to listen to live radio feeds. Sounds good, right?
But just wait, you can listen to most all these radio stations online for free, but when a game is on, they end their online broadcast, so MLB can make money off of it. Once, again MLB has the right to the broadcasts apparently, but it should be free, in my mind.

If you haven’t noticed, I’m not the biggest fan of MLB in this aspect.

by ianmader on Apr 28, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Pay to Play

A lot of people here have stated the belief that things on the web are supposed to be, expected to be free. It won’t be this way forever.

The future of the newspaper industry (very soon just journalism, as the term newspaper will be fully obsolete and inaccurate) will be mostly on the web, but web advertising isn’t enough to sustain the industry. The Wall Street Journal, one of only two major US newspapers to not lose readership over the last year (with the USA Today) recently went to a partial premium setup on their website, where many articles are behind a payed subscription wall. We will be seeing this business model a lot soon, and consumers are just going to have to get used to the idea. People just say now “I’ll just go somewhere else and get it for free” but pretty soon, those places doing it for free will all be gone and out of business, it’s just not a sustainable model.

The Star Tribune is using the similar plan of making many stories print-only, but I’d be surprised if they don’t wise up and make those print only stories available for a web subscribers fee soon. We also might see a micro transactions business model in many places, where you can read short newslines for free, and you can read previews for the longer news stories, but the arts and variety sections and any longer articles will cost a few cents per article to view. You’d just sign in and it would bill to an account in a convenient fashion for everything you wanted to read. That would let people read and spend as little or as much as they want.

ESPN, oddly enough, probably has had the right idea for years. As annoying as their “insider” wall is when you ant to read an article, we’re going to see a lot more of that. They also are pioneering another field we’re going to see a lot more of: specialized local coverage in the style of a local outfit managed and presented by a larger media. Instead of reading The Small-Town-Gazette, we’ll probably see a lot more news sources like “The Big Town Paper’s Website, Southwest suburbs edition” or the like.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Apr 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Well hopefully in that case there will be pirates who bring such things to us free.

by ianmader on Apr 29, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN Insider

How well has Insider actually worked for ESPN? They really scaled it back a year or so ago – it use to be that all their blogs were Insider-only, as well as all their article archives, and now all that stuff is back in the free section. I don’t see all that much Insider content anymore – some of their NFL draft analysis, I think some fantasy stuff, and I seem to recall a few NFL things during the season, but not nearly as much as there use to be, which makes me think that the Insider paradigm wasn’t working all that well.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Apr 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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