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Twins 2009 draft

So the draft is only a few weeks away now, and the twins have the #22 pick in the 1st round and the 46th pick in the supplemntal round for Fatty Reyes.

 

It's silly to guess what the twins will do in the draft, because they almost always surprise us, and pick someone you wouldn't expect.

I think we should stay away from High School pitching early on at least.  Look at the track record.   ( baker, slowey, blackburn, perkins) 4 of our drafted starters all are college pitchers, who had good polish.  Guys like JD Durbin, Tyler Robertson, Jay Rainville and Kyle Waldrop all didn't work out so well.......  Anthony Swarzak is the one HS pitcher drafted recently who has a chip and a chair to be a pretty decent option as a future Twins SP.   We will have to see what this pitcher from Iowa does that we drafted last year, I forget his name, gave him 600k well oer slot.  But overall high school pitching just seems to risky, unless it's a porcello and we aren't goin to pay that kind of money if someone slips of that caliber.

 

Some players I would look at....

- Bobby Borchering - 6"4 3rd basemen out of HS, many say he's the best prep bat int he draft, a real masher, needs to work on D.  He'd be 3-4 years off at least.

- Max Stassi- A very polished young catcher. Yes i know it's not the biggest need, but by all accounts this kids a pure player, born to play baseball, with a good bat and very good behind the plate.  You never know if mauer will forsure stay and you don't know how ramos will pan out.  You can never have enough good catchers.

- Mychael Givens-  HS SS/Pitcher ...Something about him screams twins pick to me...  He's pretty toolsy and he can also throw mid 90's from the mound. 

- If we go college pitchers, maybe look at a guy like Mike Leake, james paxton, eric arnett, mike minor.

 

Also, I think the twins would be well served to grab a bullpen arm possibly with the 46th pick, if there is a good one out there, possibly a guy who would be ready later this year or next year to come in and get some outs from the pen.  There are some out there in this years draft,.

 

So you always take BPA of course, but Twins should definitley lean towards college pitching, middle infielders and im convinced you can never have enough catching.   Outfield/1st base in my opinion are positions we don't really need to address early, of course unless someone really jumps off the page.

 

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Hey

I’m Firebat, and I’m an alcoholic.

Wait, no, that’s something else.

I’m Firebat, and I’m doing the Mock Draft thing for John Sickle’s site for the Twins. Please check out the Mock Organization Diary that I have running.

As far as what my “list” looks like for the 22 pick, my top 10 is.

1. Jiovanni Mier, SS, HS

A guy that’s rising because of his ability to stay at SS. He might be the best SS in this class right now, especially with the way that Grant Green has struggled this year. He isn’t ever going to be Nick Punto/Elvis Andrus in the field, but he has a good chance of remaining at SS. The bat is solid, but not great. Overall, he’s a lot like Aaron Hicks with a bit less power potential and a bit more polish.

2. Bobby Borchering, 3B, HS

The more the draft goes, the more I’m hearing that Bobby Borchering might actually go much sooner than this. There’s talk of Arizona taking him, and even some talk of him going to teams like Oakland @ 13 or Texas @ 14 if their top players are gone. He’s the best bat in this prep class (He’s homered once in every 7.4 ABs this year). There’s some questions about his swing, but he’s got great bat speed so it’s not that big of a concern. He has about a 50-50 chance of remaining @ 3B, but he might have the bat to play well, even as a firstbaseman.

3-7. Any of 4 College LHP

Mike Minor (Vanderbilt), Andy Oliver (Oklahoma State), Rex Brothers (Libscomb), and James Paxton (Kentucky) are all college lefties with 1st round grades. Of the four, Brothers probably has the best ceiling while Minor has the best polish. I’d think the Twins would be more likely to draft Minor (good pedigree, good program, high polish, lesser miledge on his arm, and signable) than any of the others, but all four definitely deserve consideration.

8. Richard Pothyress, 1B, Georgia

An excellent name. Probably the most productive bat in College baseball, though he’s struggled against some top flight competition. Be clear, this is not Justin Smoak or Pedro Alvarez – both of whom offers much higher upside and better defensive value. He doesn’t really have a defined position, but he’ll get to the majors quickly and adds some on-base value for a Twins team that lacks it outside of Mauer, Span and, sometimes, Morneau.

9 and 10. Two HS Lefties

Tyler Skaggs and Chad James are both HS lefties, but I really don’t believe the 8 players before these two will be exhausted before the Twins pick. For what it’s worth, they’re both good pitchers with the ability to add more velocity, but lacks polished secondary stuff right now – you know, like all HS lefties.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 16, 2009 2:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+ 1 on 3B/1B Borchering, SS Mier

Either one of those guys would have to be decent Choices IMO.

IF we draft Trout the Outfield prospect with pick #22 that would be three years in a row we Take a Prep Outfielder in the first round – yuck

IF OF Tim Wheeler fell to us, doubt it though, I’d be FINE taking him at #22 overall….

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 22, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also disagree with some of your conclusions

Borchering, I think, can advance at different levels depending on if you want him as a 3B or a 1B. If you get him at 1B, he’ll advance pretty quickly, but if you want him to remain a 3B, that’s when you’ll see 3+ development time.

Also, Borchering, I think, has all the tools to play 3B. An above average arm, good quickness, and generally pretty solid footwork. The problem is things like his setup (he sets up like a hockey goalie, almost in a weird, crouch position). Those things are generally easier to develop than guys who lack tools for the position.

A lot of Stassi’s value is the fact that he will remain at catcher, which is rare, especially for a HS guy. If you bring him into an organization with Ramos and Mauer, I think you remove a lot of value from him. Really, I think at this point, you’d be better off trying to get Austin Maddox at 46, as his bat is more likely to play @ a corner IF spot.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 16, 2009 2:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmm

grab a polished bat or a seasoned college pitcher….

either works for me in your mock draft….

HS pitchers blahhhhhh and dont like the Mier kid.

Borchering or some of those college pitchers you mentioned.

by hotshotschamp on May 16, 2009 4:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some simple rules

1. Avoid the high school pitchers. (I agree with you here)

2. I wouldn’t draft a bullpen arm. It seems like most of the elite bullpen arms didn’t start out that way, they were good lower level prospects who never developed a third pitch.

3. BPA, BPA, BPA. Maybe focus a little more offensively than in years past, but it takes so long for (our) draft picks to reach the majors, needs change so much.

by Adam Peterson on May 17, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HS pitchers

it really depends. There are certainly some that are better than others. The problem with this class of HS pitchers is that they have obvious warts from mechanics (Matt Purke) to signability (Jacob Turner) to velocity (Tyler Matzek) to polish (Matt Hobgood).

I think, in general, overcommiting yourself to a specific type of player tends to end poorly.

My top 3 is currently Mier, Borchering and Pothyress.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 18, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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