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Comparing 2009 to 2008: First 30 games

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This post compares RS and RA allowed through the first 30 games of 2009 and 2008. What I am interested in is whether 2008's offensive production was really an anomoly, or a sustainable trend. Much has been about BA with RISP, as well as other factors. This analysis is much simpler than that. I am simply comparing the runs scored and runs allowed through the similar number of games, and letting the greater community derive what conclusions you will from it.

 

With that said, here are the numbers:

2009                                      2008

14W, 16L                               16W, 14L

RS: 135     RA: 158                RS: 124        RA: 130

 

As you can see, the 2009 offense has produced more runs so far than the 2008 offense. The win total is also close, with 2008 taking the lead by going 5-0 in games 26-30, whereas 2009 we went 2-3 in games 26-30.

 

Perhaps the most interesting thing is looking at the average, median, and standard deviations of the data sets.

Offensively the numbers are very similar:

2009                                      2008

Average RS: 4.5                    Average RS: 4.13

Median RS:  4                        Median RS:  4

Stdev:           3.49                   Stdev:           3.37

 

Looking at the runs allowed, however, tells the story of 2009 in a nutshell:

2009                                    2008

Average RA: 5.27                Average RA: 4.33

Median RA:   5                     Median RA:   4

Stdev:            3.19                Stdev:           3.19

In essence, our pitching staff/defense is almost a full run worse than last year's team. If we can get our pitching staff to return to its 2008 form, we should be poised to make a good run in the AL Central.

 

Terms:

Average--I think we all know what average is

Median--50% of the data set is above this number, and 50% is below it. Helps cancel out the effect of outliers in a data set (for example, would minimize the effect of Cleveland's 20+ run game, giving a better overall idea of their offense).

Standard Deviation (stdev)--tells us how variable the data set is--a higher number means that there was not much consistency, whereas a lower number means that most of the numbers are pretty close to each other.

 

Poll
What are the long term performance prospects of our pitching staff?
Good. We're already seeing better performances. They'll end up better than last year.
10 votes
Decent. Some starters will improve, some regress. It's the bullpen that worries me.
62 votes
Poor. No consistency coupled with regression and a suspect bullpen = doom.
8 votes

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It is quite simple really

Starting pitching is the key. When the Twins pitcher start and work 7+ innings, the bullpen isn’t overtaxed and they stay in their proper roles. The offense can do what they do best and not try to hit homers. It is a lot easier to "get ’em on, move ’em over, get ’em in when not playing from behind.

by Alexi Casilla All-Star on May 9, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Livan, we hardly knew ye

He was 5-1 with a 3.8 ERA on May 9 last year.

Bloggin' the bloggers since 1938.

by Johnny Safron on May 9, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really it's all about our staring pitching, we expected it to be a lot better, and it must be.

And haha Johnny, true true.

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by AdamOnFirst on May 9, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's true that the pitching needs to be better

but scoring is way up league wide this year, so those runs scored aren’t as impressive as they might be. Last couple of nights have been nice, though.

by Eric in Madison on May 10, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was going to post the same thing

I’d be more interested in seeing how well these results line up with league average (I don’t know exactly how much scoring is up, just that it’s up). Also, I’m curious how much the inputs have changed – it could be that the RISP hitting hasn’t been the mail catalyst like it was last year.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on May 11, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There should be a rule for every reliever except Nathan...

…that if you walk anyone, your inning is over PERIOD. I wonder how many times a walked batter has scored against the Twins in the late innings (it is mighty hard to swallow these kinds of losses).

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by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on May 11, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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