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Jason Pridie Returns to the Bigs

The question becomes:  what are we expecting?

Back on January 3, 2008, I asked a serious question in the wake of Torii Hunter's departure:  Is Jason Pridie an option in center field?  It wasn't a question which, at the time, could be answered with a simple yes or no...if only because we didn't really know who he was.  Fast-forward 18 months, and we have a much better idea.

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Pridie is still just 25, which surprises me for some reason.  He spent part of '07, most of '08 and all of '09 (so far) in triple-A, and the biggest problem is that he's not getting any better.  For years the problem hasn't just been the strikeouts, it's been contact, period.  It's been like a crap shoot.  Because if Pridie does make contact, he does it pretty well and hits his share of line drives (at least since 2007).  Those line drives have, from '07 through '08, translated into solid BABIP numbers, and his triple slash lines have reaped the benefits.  But when Pridie doesn't make contact, which is often, all those hard-hit balls are forgotten in one quick glance at a disappointing batting average.  Add in his being allergic to walks, and what we're left with is a toolsy outfielder whose moderate potential has never been reached.

He's done better in June, hitting .297/.338/.422; if that was his line on the season, it wouldn't be a bad contribution from a center fielder who can also play in the corners.  And to be fair, 50 percent of his balls in play were line drives in April, and yet his BABIP was simply above average at .317 instead of the outlandish number the statistical means insist it could have been.

Additionally, Pridie has cut down on his strikeouts a little bit this season, ending just 14.5% of his plate appearances with that result as opposed to the cringe-worthy 25.2% from last summer.  But he still doesn't walk.  And the power potential he flashed in '07 in Durham, and in parts last year with Rochester, has simply vanished.  And really, if the choice is between a .737 OPS ('08) and a .616 OPS ('09), then I'll gladly take all those hilarious K's.

It's hard to know what to say about Jason, other than what's been said by every other baseball nerd to who cares to look at advanced metrics.  Scouts have always said he has the talent, and at times he's shown it; he's just undisciplined.  And if higher-ceiling and talent guys like Carlos Gomez and Delmon Young are struggling with discipline at a tougher level, then how should we be judging Jason?

The single biggest advantage to calling up Pridie, as opposed to Luke Hughes or Casilla (again) or better hitting Red Wings outfielders like David Winfree or Dustin Martin, is that Jason can play all three outfield positions.  This means there's someone to spell Gomez over the next few days if he needs it, and in late-game situations there's a mobile defender to put in place of Young or Jason Kubel.  Pridie's expected value and contributions will stem from those two points.

Anything else should be gravy.

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I’ve been hoping they’d bring Pridie up and send Gomez down for a while. Any chance this happens when Span returns?

by snolls on Jun 17, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

so now that Gomez

is heating up, you want to send him down? Something just doesnt seem to click here.

by BCTwins on Jun 17, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was my initial reaction, too

but snolls asks about when span returns. if gomez is going to get only 1 or 2 starts a week when that happens (whether he should have more than that is a different question), i think sending him down makes a certain amount of sense.

by dctwin on Jun 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesse Crain

The surprise demotion of Crain gives me hope the Twins would consider the same with Gomez. We have a CF that can be a big time player here for years if he develops some kind of game with his bat. And the best way for him to become that player is to play CF every day at AAA hitting leadoff imo instead of this twice a week stuff up here.

by ajmargarine on Jun 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Send Gomez down, play him everyday like they did with Hunter. He needs to learn the strike zone and how not to swing out of his shoes.

by wcooley on Jun 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So then you would be playing

a Span Cuddyer and Young outfield?

In a vacuum, I’m not opposed to sending Gomez to AAA—he obviously needs to get better. But Young is so horrendous that I have no interest in him playing everyday either. Are the Twins trying to win this year? If they are, they can’t send Gomez down.

The biggest problem is that Span is NOT a great center fielder. He’s a good corner guy who is a little stretched in center. Those 3 in the outfield is a real problem, especially with a flyball pitching staff.

by Eric in Madison on Jun 17, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

but this is a separate argument

so long as gardy sees fit to play young over gomez, it’s not going to matter that gomez SHOULD be starting. as long as he’s not, he should get regular starts. if he can get regular starts with the twins, i agree that he should stay up. if that’s not happening, he can’t get better and he certainly can’t help us win.

by dctwin on Jun 17, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well there could be a possibility

of Young being traded very soon. Young is starting to hit the ball, just as he did in the second half last year. This raises his trade value. What could we get for Young? Hard to say, but once Young is out of the way, that clears a spot for Gomez. Then we could once more have the Span, Gomez, Cuddyer outfield.

by BCTwins on Jun 17, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a little premature.

It’s hard to get trade value for the last ten games or so…especially when the guy’s had three XBH all season. He needs a sustained period of production, including power if not walks, before we really can even start having this discussion. I have to believe that at this point, if the Twins were to need a roster spot for an outfielder, they’d DFA Young before they could trade him. Not that I think either of those things will happen anytime soon, because they won’t, but that’s how lowly other teams should be valuing Young as a trade commodity.

by Jesse on Jun 17, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

I think Pridie is up for a few games of insurance until Span comes back. Yes, it could do Gomez a lot of good to get regular at bats in AAA, but his defense is so good in CF, I’d make sure he gets more playing time than Delmon.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 17, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s debatable whether Gomez will learn more up here or down there. I can see both sides of the argument. Up here, he sees major league pitching and gets regular instruction from Vavra. Down there, he’d get more playing time and some confidence building. But he seems to be progressing up here, albeit slowly. And he is helping on defense, more than Pridie could. If he started really slumping again, like he did in April, I could see pulling a Casilla on him. But not when he has a 1.273 OPS in his last seven games and an .810 OPS in his last 14. And it’s not like Pridie is tearing up AAA with a .619 OPS.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 18, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pridie's numbers have matched Gomez's over the last two years

Except one is in AAA and one is in the majors. Gomez is clearly the better player. Pridie is a nice fourth outfielder, but not much more.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 17, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Why don’t you think they went with David Winfree instead? His numbers look better and we could use another stick from the right side of the plate to break things up a bit. I really don’t know much about Winfree so any info would be appreciated, or a +/- comparing him to Pridie would be even better! Thanks!

by YoJo on Jun 17, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense

When they want a defensive substitution for Delmon late in the game, they can bring Pridie in.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 17, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winfree VS Pridie

Pridie is a versatile fielder; decent speed and range. Winfree is a converted third baseman, playing in a corner OF spot…basically, a poor defender. The last thing the Twins need is another corner outfielder who doesn’t really have any defense. That’s why Pridie has value, he can play defense alright even if he isn’t hitting.

by Jesse on Jun 17, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

though last year

he cost the Twins two games in the standings because of his crap defense in right field.

by BCTwins on Jun 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only remember one error out there

Though he did have a -167 UZR/150 based on one error over 3 chances. Small samples, Grasshopper, small samples.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winfree's not on the 40-man roster

Pridie’s the only minor league OF on the 40 man so they went with him as this will likely only be a one week or so call-up.

by ajmargarine on Jun 17, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
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~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Jun 17, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by YoJo on Jun 17, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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