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Could the Twins Get Freddy Sanchez?

Minnesota has to do something about who they play at second base.

In Sunday's game thread, one of the discussion points was the offensive futility of anyone who plays at second base.  Going into the game they were batting (and let's be honest, an 0-fer isn't going to help) a combined .197/.256/.261.  That .517 OPS is worst in all of baseball, with the San Francisco Giants coming in second place posting a .549 OPS.  There's something desperately wrong with those numbers.

Of all the second basemen who have been rumored to be available, Pittsburgh's Freddy Sanchez stands out.  The Pirates, at 31 - 37 as of this writing, are 6.5 games out of first place in the National League Central, and aren't equipped to close that gap this year.  If Minnesota could put together an attractive package, Pittsburgh would listen.


Freddy Sanchez

#12 / Second Base / Pittsburgh Pirates

5-10

190

R

R

Dec 21, 1977

 


GABRH2B3BHRRBIBBKSBCSAVGOBPSLG
2009 - Freddy Sanchez 63 266 36 84 23 3 5 26 15 41 4 1 .316 .356 .481



So far this year, Sanchez is living up to his reputation as a solid hitter:  good batting average, lots of doubles, and in spite of having a down year defensively is still rated right around average.  But mostly that's common knowledge, so here's a more extensive scouting report...

  • Sanchez hits a lot of line drives.  Since 2005, these are his line-drive breakdowns:  24.5, 27.5, 22.5, 24.3, 22.3.
  • Swings at a lot of pitches outside of the strike zone.  For a guy who doesn't hit for a lot of power (career .424 SLG, .122 ISO), swinging at 30% of pitches that should be called balls is too much.
  • Following on, he doesn't walk much, with just a 5.3% walk rate.
  • Sanchez slumped in '08, not in line drives hit but in power and walk rates.  But he's back on form this season.
  • Manager John Russell has, at times, gives him the day game off following a night game.
  • According to Cots Contracts, Sanchez is making a manageable $6.1 million in 2009.  His option for 2010 (age-32 season) sees an $8 million club option with a $600K buyout.  650 plate appearances this season, an All-Star selection, a Gold Glove or Silver Slugger get him a $500K increase in his '10 base salary.
  • He was an All-Star in '06 and '07, and deservedly so; he won the NL batting title in '06 hitting .344.  He also led the league in doubles that year with 52.
  • Makes a lot of contact in the strike zone, getting wood on 93.6% of his cuts throughout his career.
  • His wOBA is .360 so far in 2009, very similar to his career-best season of '06.
  • While he's fundamentally sound in the field, his range has diminished over the last couple of seasons.  RZR and UZR/150 still rate him right around evens, not hurting his team with the glove but not winning games with it either.
  • Depending on how he finishes the season, Sanchez should become eligible as a type-B free agent would the Twins decide to decline his 2010 option.

I think we know what we'd be getting with Sanchez.  He's a guy whose value is almost entirely wrapped up in his bat, although consistency at the position would have to count for something in Minnesota.  Starting four players, all of them at least eight times, says less about the versatility of Twins defenders than it says about the futility of the options.

Sanchez isn't the golden ticket, the silver bullet, the bronze...banana?  But he'd constitute a drastic upgrade, and he wouldn't come at an unfathomable cost financially.

Let's have it.  Is this transaction viable?  Is it a move this organization, as we know it, would be able to make?  I'm interested in hearing both sides of this, so let me know why or why not.  And if you think it is...what would it take?

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Is Freddy Sanchez a viable trade target?
Yes
532 votes
No
50 votes
Yes, but not for the Twins
116 votes

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thanks for the numbers...

•Sanchez hits a lot of line drives. Since 2005, these are his line-drive breakdowns: 24.5, 27.5, 22.5, 24.3, 22.3.

what does that mean? is 22.5 good or bad?

Sounds like he isn’t a silver bullet…but he might very well be a bronze banana, and that would be a huge increase over our lead balloons.

by montanatwinsfan on Jun 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what the league average is,

but anything over 20% is decent. 24-27% is excellent. Line drives are good because between line drives, fly balls, and ground balls, line drives are by far the least likely to turn into outs.

by JopeX37 on Jun 22, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Yes, it i viable, and I think the cost would be palatable (somebody like Humber/Swarzak/Mulvey would be the center of the package), but I don’t know if it would make the Twins that good. It would be a big upgrade, but the Twins still have big offensive holes at short, kinda third, and center, and have defensive issues all over the field at different times.

Still though, the central isn’t very good, and why not try to win the division and see if we can get lucky?

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Jun 21, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'd still have holes

but it’s probably the single biggest upgrade we could make, replacing below replacement level production from Tolbert / Punto with above league average. Something on the order of 2+ marginal wins from here on out.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've thought about him before, too.

He has positives over Sanchez.

1: Higher career OBP (.352)
2: Lower cost financially
3: Cut-and-dried committment, no 2010 if you don’t want him…although Sanchez’ vesting option of 635 PA’s will be a tight finish.
4: Attainability…he’s a free agent

But there are some pretty big negatives, too.

1: He’s 37
2: Declining defense abilities, he was worse than Sanchez last year and is bound to be at least marginally worse now, especially after not playing
3: His offensive contributions are harder to predict, due to both his age and the fact that he doesn’t have a track record yet for 2009
4: Have I mentioned that he’s 37 and isn’t playing?

He’d need time to work out and get into game shape, but if Durham was willing to sign a minor-league contract and play his way into the majors…I’d be all for it.

by Jesse on Jun 22, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Durham's done

You just don’t start playing again at the major leaguee level after a three-month layoff, especially at his age. He would need a rehab assignment of some kind for a month to get in game shape and get his timing down. My sense is, that’s too long to wait.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 22, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez is a good target

I kind of perferred Barmes, but he is probably not available considering how both he and his team have performed in the last three weeks. Barmes is a guy that could be a regular at either second or short.

by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Jun 21, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez trade no way

The Twins should go after Ian Kinsler from the Rangers instead. He would be a better fit for the Twins at 2nd base.

by CRAIG JOHNSON on Jun 22, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, nope.

The Rangers are still in first place and unlikely to be in a position to be sellers. Not to mention that the Twins have absolutely nothing to offer the Rangers that they would accept for Kinsler.

by DK on Jun 22, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez is the bets fit for this team

He’s at least as good as Punto with the glove (similar range, better arm). But he’s a perfect number 2 hitter to hit between Span and Mauer.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Batting Champ

He is a former batting champ and not somebody we could get cheaply.
My guess is Swarzak and another good hitting prospect.
Is he worth that?

by clutterheart on Jun 22, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

only if a salary dump

To me it depends how much the Pirates want to shed salary. Talent for talent, this trade would be hard to pull off. Would you trade a former batting champ for Humber or Mulvey? But if you figure in salary, that’s a lot of money the owners could pocket, so who knows.

by by jiminy on Jun 22, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yup

Actually I agree with you. The odds of the Twins taking on salary are, as always, slim. Where we differ is on what this has to do with sexual orientation, which personally I don’t find remotely relevant, but on the point of Pohlad being cheap, hell yeah.

by by jiminy on Jun 22, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think salary is much of an issue

The Twins can take on two Sanchez-type contracts, and still be under budget for the year.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 22, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

They’ve been well under budget two straight years now – taking on salary shouldn’t be an issue, as long as it’s not Manny or A-Rod.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Jun 22, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in favor

Can they throw in Jack Wilson? The Twins have a bunch of B prospects that would improve the Pirates but probably not make the Twins roster in the near future, especially guys blocked at C and OF/1B. I’d be willing to deal any infielder on the roster including Harris or Casilla.

by DJL44 on Jun 22, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm happy to keep Harris as long as he keeps hitting.

If he hits at second base, that’s fine…but then we need to improve shortstop instead. The only issue I have with Harris is his defense, but if he can continue to hit like he has this year, the bat makes up for it a bit.

by Jesse on Jun 22, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sending Harris might drop the prospect cost

Harris is a decent, cheap MLB infielder but he’s not going to push the team toward a championship. If the Twins take on all the salary then adding Jack Wilson might actually make trading for Sanchez cheaper in terms of prospects. I think the Twins would still have to deal a number of prospects (5?) to get both but they wouldn’t have to touch anyone good.

by DJL44 on Jun 22, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure about the Jack Wilson bit...

…for a couple of reasons. He’s a dead weight with the bat, although his defense is good. And his salary—$7.25 million this season. He has an $8.4 million 2010 option, which I’d assume would be bought out for $600K.

See on one hand, a Wilson/Sanchez duo is an upgrade over a Harris/Punto/Casilla/Tolbert combo platter. I’d just be hesitant to think that the Twins would pick up that much money in one move. But who knows, if you pro-rate the salaries over the rest of the season, we’d be stuck with just over half of those contracts for ‘09…so maybe $6.8 or $6.9 million in salary for the remainder of this year. I can’t see the Twins picking up Wilson’s $8.4 mil option, so add on $600K for the buyout, and quite possibly $8 million for Sanchez next season when his option vests. So $15.4 million for a half season of Wilson and one and a half years of Sanchez.

Adding Wilson makes it a more attractive idea for the Pirates I’d think. But the Twins would need to make room for a pair of guys on the 40-man roster, meaning they’d have to trade back someone of value. Someone like Swarzak would still need to be thrown in.

by Jesse on Jun 22, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On second thought

Wilson doesn’t pass the Harris test. Whoever we get to play short must be better than Harris.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 22, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miised point, the dp turn

This article missed on huge point, Freddy is one of the best in baseball at turning a double play as well as handling throws on steal attempts. Punto is just average at the turn and has been just woeful at receiving throws on stolen base attempts.

by Tilly on Jun 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

And relay throws.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 23, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point.

I haven’t really seen him play much in person, so I’ll gladly take your word on that one.

by Jesse on Jun 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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