Game 55: Cleveland Indians @ Minnesota Twins
by Adam Peterson on Jun 4, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
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Cleveland Indians at Minnesota Twins, Jun 4, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
Starting Pitchers
Scott Baker goes after his third win on the season this afternoon. Baker's undoing so far this season has been the gopher ball. His 14 HR allowed is second in the majors to Brett Myers (17). The last three games (6 HR allowed) have not given Twins fans reasons for optimism, at least from a gopher ball perspective. The good news for Baker is that, other than the HRs, his SO/BB ratio (3.90) is above his career average (3.39). That's pretty much it for good news. HR/FB (15.9%) will probably come back down to earth, but Baker has become even more of a fly ball pitcher this year (0.56 GB/FB vs 0.73 for career), which over a full season would mean an extra 4-5 HR allowed. Line drive rate (20.3%) is pretty much in line with career (21.3%) numbers, indicating his BABIP (.282) is again lucky, just like last year (.290).
Fausto Carmona has been killed by walks this year (38 BB in 58.2 IP), walking more batters than he has struck out. Since his stellar 2007 season (finished 4th in AL Cy Young voting), Carmona has walked well over 5 batters per 9 innings, not an indicator of success for any pitcher, much less someone who strikes out around 5.5 batters per 9. Fausto provides a sharp contrast to Baker with his 93-94 MPH sinking fastball. His career GB/FB ratio is 2.74, one of the highest in MLB. It will be interesting to see if the Twins can elevate enough of Carmona's pitches to move the walked baserunners around the basepaths.
Lineups
Not available yet, I'll post as soon as they are available. Considering the long road trip, I would not be surprised to see Joe Mauer get a day off, but with injuries to Michael Cuddyer and others, the bench is thin.
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Cleveland AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Francisco, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
Carroll, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302
Martinez, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .352
Choo, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
Peralta, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
DeRosa, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265
Gimenez, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Crowe, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .171
Valbuena, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .196
Minnesota AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Span, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308
Mauer, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .425
Morneau, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .338
Kubel, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .311
Crede, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232
Harris, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
Redmond, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .267
Gomez, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .217
Tolbert, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .189
by montanatwinsfan on Jun 4, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I prefer
keeping Mauer Morneau and Kubel bunched together even if they are all lefties.
by montanatwinsfan on Jun 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The game doesn't appear to be on FSN
I see poker
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey look,
we’re both blogging from our mom’s basements…
…er, I mean working from homh cough, cough
by montanatwinsfan on Jun 4, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touch 'em all, Jason Kubel!
I just remembered to turn on the radio – nice timing.
I forgot that it had been that long since he’d hit one.
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by BeefMaster on Jun 4, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya know Carlos, you can take pitches. You do know that don't you?
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Third pitch in a row with the same count, and no fouls
I don’t even think Gordo knows he makes these mistakes.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kubel! Again
I think his knee is healthy again.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now
they just need avoid the Baker blowup inning.
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baker is on today
Hopefully that continues
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Going out on a limb now
- Stud in the game report (unless Baker throws a no-hitter): Kubel.
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kubel is on pace for 9 homers this game. I think that would be a record.
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by taskersd on Jun 4, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And 27 RBIs
I’m almost certain that would be some sort of record. At least a Twins record. :)
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that proof was needed
but the record for rbis in a game is 12 by Jim Bottomley in 1924 and also by Mark Whiten in 1993. Interestingly, both played for the Cardinals at the time. The AL record is 11 by Tony Lazzeri in 1936 for the yankees.
by hamburgular17 on Jun 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And after some searching
the Twins record is 8 rbis in a game. Done twice by Adams in 1977 and Bush in 1989. I bet someone might actually know who these players are, but I’m too young
by hamburgular17 on Jun 4, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glen Adams and Randy Bush
Two of the best left-handed hitters nobody ever knew about.
In the year in question Adams had an OPS+ of 130. For the Twins, Adams had an OPS+ of 114.
Bush did score the winning run in Game 2 of the 1987 world series on an amazing slide. But, he is very underrated in his career. He also had an OPS+ of 140 in the 1991 season, primarily as the top left-handed pinch hitter in the league. (Man that was a good team). His career OPS+ was 102.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Tolbert playing again?
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by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the long outing Carmona!
Who does Fausto think he is giving up those homers—Baker?
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick question
I’ve been out of town for business the last few days, and with Casilla back up I assumed Tolbert was sent back down. How did the roster moves work for that? An assignment to the DL I’m guessing.
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't quote me on this, but
I think LNP was sent to the DL. Something about sand in the pelvic region?
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. Thanks.
I thought for a second Gardy realized that Punto was trash and gave Harris some AB’s. Then reality pulled me back in.
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Punto pulled his groin
It was a day-to-day thing, but they DLed him because they couldn’t wait for him to recover.
So they called up Casilla. I assume when Punto’s 15 days are up, they’ll send down Tolbert.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dontrelle Willis was pulled from the game
while pitching a no hitter. With the awesome line of: 2.1 IP 0 H 5 ER 5 BB 1 HBP
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So does Mauer
How dare they make outs?!
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Baker is pitching a No hi. . .
oops , sorry.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jun 4, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope
you typed that in the first inning, and have been waiting for the Tribe to get a hit to post. Because that would be dedication.
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
No, I actually just got online to check the game and was thinking to myself, wow Bakers striking a lot of guys out and hasn’t given up a hit. I looked at this page, went back to gameday and saw he had given one up.
I mind jinxed him.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jun 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
granted cleveland's lineup is awful
but I hope the Scott Baker I know and love is back
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by fetch9 on Jun 4, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7 k's in 5 IP
Let’s hope he can duplicate it against a major league lineup instead of AAA Columbus + Martinez and Choo.
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy FAIL for me
I was stuck in a meeting and didn’t adjust my fantasy team line up!
Something tells me that Either of the Dodgers is not going to hit 2HR and have 6 RBI…
Damn work! Oh wait, in this economy, thank you work, damn me.
by caluofmn on Jun 4, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really could have used the HR(s) and RBIs
I’m in a head to head pts league, a couple actually
by caluofmn on Jun 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ah..all good things must come to an end...Moon Shot Scott gives up a run. bleh
by Tony_O on Jun 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll settle for a win
Given Bakers ability to implode….
by guinness junky on Jun 4, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as we get the W
I’m fine with it.
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully this wont be another
inning of Anthony “Can’t get three outs” Swarzak
by ianmader on Jun 4, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, Bakers been pretty good most of the time this year. He just seems to have that one bad inning as we’ve all seen. He’s also giving up over twice as many HR/9 this year. Everything else is pretty reasonable and roughly the same as last year. He’s had a bit of bad luck as well.
I was curious so I went and looked he had only 4 instances last year where he gave up more than 2 runs in an inning last year. This year he’s already matched that #. I point out last year to show that the one big inning hasn’t been something that’s plagued him his whole career. I didn’t put the time in to look at 2007.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jun 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7-2 after 5 1/2
And amazingly, both runs scored off Baker weren’t off of homers. Good sign?
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not so sure...
he hasnt yet met his HR quota for the day.
by guinness junky on Jun 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to break up Ohka's no hitter
and his shutout…
by guinness junky on Jun 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Games like this are nice because they help get Mauer’s plate appearances up.
By the way, he’s only reached 3 out of 4 times? Whats wrong with him?
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by fetch9 on Jun 4, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The HR derby continues!
Porneau Star gets in on the action!
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear it's in his contract
Porneau Star only scores with Mauer on base.
ok, that was a reach
by caluofmn on Jun 4, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bats are exploding.
Lets hope this can be a launching pad for a huge road trip.
by Kaine on Jun 4, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
remember how well that worked before the last road trip?
Ha Ha, but maybe, maybe
by caluofmn on Jun 4, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Jiminez had to hit one sometime in his career...
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Dog dinged again
He has the slowest reactions of any catcher I’ve seen. Yet he manages to gut it out.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's all a ploy.
He does it on purpose. He just likes the attention.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one was hit pretty hard.
Let’s get one more and sit Baker down.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but manages to get outta the 7th
3 ER 7 innings, not too bad
With 10 runs of support, thats a stellar start!
by ianmader on Jun 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there were a couple fat ones that inning.
Time for the bullpen to lock it up.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoked anoher one, right at Gomez.
I’m just glad he caught it.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quality start!
Thanks, in part, to Gomez’s two running catches.
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by cmathewson on Jun 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hate Punto but… Tolbert might be worse.
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by taskersd on Jun 4, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're both middle infielders.
Punto’s glove is better, both of their bats are suspect. But at least Tolbert isn’t getting paid millions to put up miserable offensive numbers.
It’s why we need Harris and Casilla to produce.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can just get ONE middle infielder to produce
We’ll have a shot. Our lineup is great 1-5 (maybe 1-6), but the bottom has just been garbage.
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHOA.
Martinez nearly belted that one out of the state. Just foul.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You'll need to throw a breaking ball to get Martinez out, Henn....
….don’t hang it.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Martinez: K'd
….on a fastball in the dirt.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, offense...
…I’d like a couple more runs, please. I won’t be happy with 10. I want a video-game score.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All 10 of our runs
Have been scored by the top 4 batters. Coincidence? Nope.
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha...they just showed the graphic.
Top 4: 4 homers, 10 runs
Rest of lineup: 3-for-20
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to prove how top heavy our order is:
Hitters 1-4 right now: 8-12, 10 R, 10 RBI, 4 BB, 0 K
Hitters 5-9 right now: 3-20, 0 R, 0 RBI, 0 BB, 1 K
by ericj69 on Jun 4, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Top of the order is now 10-14.
With a Morneau double.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just like to point out that Joe Mauer hasn't homered tonight.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Henn
So far he’s thrown enough strikes. He throws hard enough and he’s a lefty.
BTW, Baker only allowed two ERs, the second run in the sixth was unearned.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Jun 4, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Need to bat around again
so that Morneau can walk…that way his line would be
3 AB, 3 R, 3H, 3RBI and 3BB
by guinness junky on Jun 4, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ahem #33
Anyone else getting scared?
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jun 4, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me of a ST: TNG episode.
The deja-vu one, where instead of using the tractor beam to move a derelict ship out of their path, they needed to go with Cmdr Riker’s suggestion (3 pips) and decompress the main shuttle bay.
I think Data is sending us a message.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that makes nine threes
and the square root of nine is………………………..3!
by matty_b on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just called my insurance carrier
to up my natural disaster insurance….he qouted me $333 for an increase in coverage…
by guinness junky on Jun 4, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know much about him
But if the Tribe doesn’t want this Gimenez, the Twins could use a guy with some RH pop, can play CATCHER, plus first, third and the OF.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Jun 4, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harris: K'd
Well, one more is better than zero more.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.....
…single for Giminez.
Big debut for the rookie.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FanGraphs already gives the Twins a 100% chance of winning this game.
IT’S NOT OVER.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
We need a few of these in a row.
by Jesse on Jun 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I drunk or did Dan Gladden just say that Joe Mauer could play all the positions in Baseball and easily steal 30 bases?
by Tony_O on Jun 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He said it
It came right after Mauer scored on the sac fly. He and Gordo were speculating on whether that would be the next attribute Mauer would add to his game.
Personally, I think he’s too smart to steal a ton of bases – he knows that it’s a huge risk batting ahead of a big bat like Morneau.
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by BeefMaster on Jun 4, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago and Detroit losing
We can pick up a game on at least 3 teams, Go Tampa vs. KC
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
by halfchest on Jun 4, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A really good day
The guys you expect to hit did, with Kubel coming out of a pretty deep slump. Baker pitched better than decent and the team above and the team below the Twins lost.
It would have been a lot more fun outside, since the weather was nearly perfect, but a nice, easy win.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Jun 4, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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