Game 100: White Sox @ Twins
by Jon Marthaler on Jul 27, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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PrintChicago White Sox at Minnesota Twins, Jul 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT
Wow - triple digits in games already. It feels like this is coming early. Probably because the Twins haven't made it to 50 wins yet.
First Pitch: 7:10pm CDT
TV: FSN (HD, where available)
Radio: Twins Radio Network
Know Thine Enemy: the always entertaining South Side Sox
The White Sox nearly got swept in Detroit over the weekend, but just as the Twins did, they salvaged the last game of a four-game series, scoring four times in the first inning on their way to a 5-1 win. They're two back. The Twins are four back. Each could really use a good series to claw back the Tigers a bit, not to mention putting a hurting on the other.
Probable Pitchers
In his last start, Perkins got absolutely shelled, then ran the old Rodney Dangerfield "Ow, my arm, it's broken" routine from Caddyshack. You might also remember it from the petulant kid on your summer baseball team in the third grade. Remember how he screwed up, and then blamed a heretofore-unmentioned arm injury, his team, the sunlight, the field, and generally everything else? Didn't you despise that kid?
Team management wasn't too happy with the lefty, and if it hadn't been for Kevin Slowey's misfortune, you wonder if Perkins would be pitching for his spot in the rotation tonight. After a hot start, he hasn't been very good, and he has had just one quality start in July (and none in his last three outings).
You might remember Danks's last start at the Dome; he walked the first four hitters of the game, all four scored, and the Twins managed to hold on for a gift victory. The Sox hurler says he was developing a blister during that game, and it must have been a doozy, because it eventually led to serious problems, and he missed his last start. Barring some other disaster, though - like Perkins' mysterious shoulder troubles jumping over to Danks - he'll get the start tonight.
Lineups
You've seen the Sox and Twins enough that you can probably guess at each. Nevertheless, we'll post the official word when we can.
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CWS
1-Podsednik-CF
2-Ramirez-SS
3-Dye-RF
4-Konerko-1B
5-Pierzynski-C
6-Quentin-LF
7-Beckham-3B
8-Nix-2B
9-Fields-DH
P-Danks
MIN
1-Span-LF
2-Mauer-C
3-Morneau-1B
4-Cuddyer-RF
5-Kubel-DH
6-Harris-3B
7-Gomez-CF
8-Punto-SS
9-Casilla-2B
P-Perkins
Perkins?
I’m worried.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Also
I don’t like Jim Souhan.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Wow
Gomez and Span…little communication error there?
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Smash Bang opening play
in the field as Span and Gomez collide, Gomez almost decapitated.
Back to Twins baseball evidently starts in the second inning tonight
Glad Gomez isn't hurt
but that was really kinda funny.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
you never know with Gomez though
he seems to have a tendency, when something physically troubling happens to him, to emote it to the nth degree.
Scoreless 1st for Perkins
woo
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
small victories
feel nice right now, eh?
by Chuck Tweedy on Jul 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, Ozzie...
How you entertain.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Well, there goes the 'scoreless 2nd'
ChiSox-1, Twins-0
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
He can also commit errors.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
Slowey out for the year
This news sucks. :\
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
That does suck. Lets stop sitting on our asses and sign a star pitcher!
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
Hahaha
Some guy in the crowd to AJ: “Dude, they call you a catcher for a reason!”
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
And a hit for Scrappy! Lets score some runs!
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
Two bloopers for Gomez already!
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
1-1
run scored on throwing error to 1st.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
I said earlier that Beckham sucks at fielding.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
Yep.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
Heyyyy
another error! Excellent. We’ll take what we can get here. 2-1, Twins.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Alright, what the heck?
I mean, I’m not complaining, but wtf is up with the Sox here?
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Imagine how much better shape we'd be in if we swept the Sox.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
Casilla steals second
which is great, cuz he really needs to do that alot to add value to his non-production
Plus, AJ can’t throw out anybody, so we need to go go go this series with sb’s.
He's 7 for 71. Ha.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Wow
I’ll take 2 runs like that any day, especially from the bottom of the order.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
Yep. I wouldn't call that production from them, but hey! I'll take some runs, please.
Nice signature btw.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
True.
But I think I’ll take my chances with somebody else.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
I love it actually
If he could learn to do it well consistently, man, that would be something
He needs to hit the grounder to SS tho. That is the skill. I’ve seen him do it up the middle right there and do it once to 3B another time.
Ughhhhh, Perkins.
3-2, Sox.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Or a big chopper
like Castillo use to hit. Gotta be tough to hit when your running forward in the box
I am predicting
a fight during this series.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
No doubt about it. You can tell he’s itching for it.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
that's the impression I got in his first AB
lean over the plate, move into an inside pitch, get knicked, toss the bat, slug Mauer in the head and charge Perkins
Speculation
Correct me if I’m wrong please:
After July 31, teams typically put most of their players on waivers to see who will pass thru and who gets claimed, and then pull back most of the players who got claimed. Now, if the Twins put Delmon on waivers, which they’ll do with about everyone else, will we be able to send him to AAA if he doesn’t get claimed (with his permission)?
We could send
Delmon to AAA any time we want I’m pretty sure, he has options left and doesn’t have the service time to refuse the assignment
a normal player gets 3 option years
what you refer to was his first option, the next year with TB was his second option, and last year with the Twins was his last option, so he’s out of options.
Is the "option count" listed anywhere?
I always wondered how that works. I know options are to prevent a team from calling up and sending down a guy every other week, but is there a service time element involved as well?
it’s actually years, and not individual times sent up and down. You can send a guy up and down as much as you want over the course of 3 years. First year is when he makes his MLB debut.
but i don’t have the whole story on this, only a part, or how else could we send Crain to AAA this year when he’s been with the Twins since 2004?
I thought
you just had 3 years of being able to send em up or down, but between this and the whole super 2/arbitration deal it can get pretty confusing
I think
it may be in Delmon’s contract, he signed a MLB deal when he was drafted and maybe it had a clause in it. Porcello had one that got him to the majors this year with the Tigers
found it
http://twinsgeek.blogspot.com/2009/02/geek-confusion-delmon-youngs-split.html
ya, he was immediately put on the 40 man
i mentioned that below. He’s surpassed the 4 or 5 year limit on the 40man roster. Geek is not totally correct. I think last year we could have sent DY to AAA if we wanted to and that would have been his last option year.
Really... years?
All this time, I figured there was a call-up/send-down count. Huh. I was just guessing though. Never knew the rules.
What’s to stop a team from rotating a few guys between AAA/MLB all year. You could effectively expand your roster. Is there a minimum length of time they have to be up or down?
Option years
it’s something along the lines of a player is given 4/5 years from the time he’s on a 40-man roster. You get 3 option years within that time period. If you don’t send a player down to the minors during a year, an option is not used. If he is sent down, one of his three options is used.
For Delmon, the big thing with him was when he signed his first contract with TB after the draft, a condition of him signing was that he be put on the 40-man roster immediately, That is why we can’t send him down. He’s surpassed the 4/5 year thing on a 40-man roster.
Lame...
Way to force a player to rush you through the minors… I guess as a #1 overall pick you have leverage, but limiting a high school draft pick to three years in the minors is not healthy.
and fyi
the 4 or 5 year thing depends on the age of the player when he goes on the 40man, so it differs for different players.
from that link
blah,I see I’m still reading it wrong with my above words in this thread.
I give up. haha.
Punto picked off
for the 1st out in the 5th.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Then Casilla walks
… rendering any baserunning attempts moot…
Maybe the pitcher was distracted I suppose.
Cuddy HR!!
4-3, Twins :)
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
They would be very cute, baby faced children.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Ha...right.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Plus
Detroit’s losing to the Rangers right now.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
That one looked genuinely painful.
Thought Bert laughed, so I don’t know.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
thought=though*
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
I'm not sure I would have kept Perkins in for the 6th;...
he might implode.
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."
by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Jul 27, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Well, good for Perk
getting through 7. Color me impressed.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Pull him!
Fields to the warning track; I’m scared!
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."
by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Jul 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
102 pitches...
Other than the two dingers, not bad. Still overall, gotta be satisfied. Glad to see we have a starter who can go 7 and give up only 3. Lets the long relievers catch their breath.
A Nolan Ryan quality start
he counts them as 7in/3r
by ajmargarine on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry; I overreacted.
I still have that image of Perkin’s restaurant in flames emblazoned on my brain.
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."
by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Jul 27, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, that was a painful outing to watch.
P.S. Jiff is better :)
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Yay Span!
2 out triple.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
So is Matt Guerrier just magically not supposed to break down this year or what?
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it's be real helpful
to get another decent arm for the pen, so that Matty can pitch basically exclusively in this spot, one inning, 8th inning.
by ajmargarine on Jul 27, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems to be managing ok so far
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Let's get the Twin killer (Konerko) and I think it will be smooth sailing
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."
by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Jul 27, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Oh my god
that Justin Morneau “wind up walker” is terrifying.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
game saving catch by span
at the wall…excellent!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
Dear Cuddy
You’re out as far as my babies go.
Span, get in there.
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you are fickle.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
How many times have you seen a called third to end the game
That should have been the way the game ended in Anaheim, but the ump wouldn’t call a third strike. Nice to see it tonight.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Stars of the Game brought to you by Home Depot
1. Perkins 7i/3r/6h/3k/1bb
2. Nathan 1-2-3 9th in a one-run game
3. Guerrier 1-2-3 8th in a one-run game
Hon Mention: Cuddyer 1-4 with a 2 run HR
All pitchers?
Have we entered some sort of Twilight Zone?
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. -Bull Durham
what else is there but Cuddyer? We got 6h on the night and scored 2 of our runs when the WS went into Circus D mode in the 2nd.
Turns out it was just a well pitched game, although I;m sure WPA wise, Cuddyer’s HR will get him top 3
by ajmargarine on Jul 27, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Game recap
Cuddyer’s home run is the story – but don’t forget about Perkins, or the Sox miscues in the second.
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