Twins Trade Rumors: Mike Wuertz, Orlando Cabrera, Matt Capps

by Jesse on Jul 30, 2009 3:38 PM EDT in Speculation

I advise swinging over to LEN III's blog to check out his latest. But here's a summary.

The cost of Freddy Sanchez would have been Aaron Hicks or Daniel Valencia. Am I glad this didn't happen? Yes I am.
Michael Wuertz is not on the block.
LEN III doesn't like Orlando Cabrera as an upgrade. High-5, La Velle!
Twins would have to out-bid a lot of teams if they're really up on Jarrod Washburn
Matt Capps isn't on the block either. The Pirates like him as a future closer.
Still waiting on Roy Halladay, to get to Marco Scutaro.

That's all for now! It's been pretty quiet today...

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And its almost official...

That we arent going to do ANYTHING! Well, at least Im getting $100 to sit on my ass, take care of a puppy, and follow bogus rumors that we are trying to make a move blah blah blah! Ok, so looking ahead to NEXT deadline, isnt Cuddyer a FA after next season? I think we could be sellers, and I have been pushing for a Cuddyer to TB for Reid Brignac and a lower pitching prospect. Who else could we sell? Jesse Crain? Nicky Punto? I think it might be time to not rebuild, but restock. Who am I kidding? I highly doubt they will sell in their first season in Target Field…

by Bartzy on Jul 30, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions

Tampa Bay won't need to do that.

They have so many good young outfielders (Upton, Perez, Joyce, Desmond Jennings, etc.) that they have already talked about trading Carl Crawford this year, and still might this offseason.

by DK on Jul 30, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions

deadline

Another typical year, much to do about nothing

by WITwinsfan on Jul 30, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

in enough itself,

for all intensive purposes, you might be right

by ben2 on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Hate to be a grammar police, but

Intents and purposes. What you said means something different.

by DJL44 on Jul 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions

and i think you meant

“in and of itself”

"I don't care about feelings." - Lou Piniella

by natetheskate on Jul 30, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions

yup

I was making a joke about “much to do about nothing”. My humor is a bit too dry.

by ben2 on Jul 30, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Well done, though.

Finding context in just words on a screen is hard to do. Explaining the joke is a killer, but at least this way we can appreciate the effort. :)

by Jesse on Jul 30, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Trades

didn’t you guys read the article? Gardy don’t care what a bunch of whiney crybaby wannaabee GM’s think about what Bill Smith does or doesn’t do…so shut up and enjoy the great team they have in place!!! There are many who are doing worse.

by BigSkyViking on Jul 30, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, that's whay we're fans

We are content to sit and watch mediocrity year after year. Hey, at least we don’t suck! Woohoo!

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jul 30, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

Except every time I play this argument out in my head, I find myself thinking, “wait…no seriously…at least we DON’T suck.” It’s the Iowan in me. I really can’t get appropriately worked up over non-trades, even though I know I should. Every time i think: “at least we’re not the [insert sucky team name]”

by dctwin on Jul 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Pirates? Royals? Orioles?

Blue Jays? Reds? Padres? Diamondbacks? Nationals? Indians?

Yeah. I’m glad we’re not them, too.

by Jesse on Jul 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

The curse of low expectations

by Eric in Madison on Jul 30, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Gardy wants to win with what he has

so he can prove how freaking great he is

by caluofmn on Jul 30, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Gladden? That you?

How’s that adult beverage?

by Jesse on Jul 30, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

burns the throat but I wouldn't have it any other way

by caluofmn on Jul 30, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it's more of the front office

being to damn stubborn to figure out we can win NOW, instead of 4-5 years down the road

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by thewild_viking_twins on Jul 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

The Minnesota Twins

always the bridesmaid, never the bride

by caluofmn on Jul 30, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions

87 & 91

by BD57 on Jul 30, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions

seems a long time ago doesn't it?

by caluofmn on Jul 30, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions

define "win now"

The group we have can win the AL Central; you’d have to add at least 3 guys to entertain winning beyond that.

I wish we were one player away.

by BD57 on Jul 30, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions

That's the issue.

Adding one GREAT player would go a long way, but that’s not the Twins’ style. Adding Scutaro, a bullpen arm and a reliable starter might provide a big boost. But that’s asking a lot.

by Jesse on Jul 30, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I realize that

but they can at least show us that they’re trying, or even still alive for that matter

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by thewild_viking_twins on Jul 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

right - because intentions are all that matters

Perhaps they’re trying by holding on to the position players coming up who have the potential to be difference makers vs. adding one guy at a high cost when they need 3 or 4?

by BD57 on Jul 30, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions

If they don't make a move

At least we won’t have to watch them get crushed in the playoffs.

by DJL44 on Jul 30, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

Trade

Delmon Young and Brendan Harris for Jason Bartlett and Matt Garza?

by PoohRubio on Jul 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions

Genius.

Pull the trigger on that one.

by Jesse on Jul 30, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Genius.

Would we have to include Jason Pridie?

by East Coast Twin on Jul 30, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions

that would break my heart but pull the trigger

I just won’t look, tell me when it’s over.

by caluofmn on Jul 30, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

well played

i so appreciate the humor on this particular thread.

by dctwin on Jul 30, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Re: Define "win now"

“Win now” means put together the team that has a good chance to win it all. Name the last team that won it all with a second baseman who had a 32 OPS+ and a -23 RZR/150. Win now would seem to dictate that you upgrade obvious holes, when given the chance.

I don’t doubt the Twins are trying to “win now”. And it’s really hard to do that. Sanchez, for example, ended up costing a lot because he had a lot of competition for his services. But if the extent of their moves is to bring a 39-year-old player out of retirement, it’s not enough.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jul 30, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions