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Game 114: Kansas City Royals @ Minnesota Twins

Kansas City Royals at Minnesota Twins, Aug 13, 2009 1:10 PM EDT


First Pitch:  12:10pm CDT
TV:  FS-N
Radio:  Twins Radio Network
Know Thine Enemy:  Royals Review

After splitting the first two games against Kansas City (6-14 L, 7-1 W), the Twins look to take the rubber game of the series this afternoon at the Metrodome. After a stellar performance from Francisco Liriano last night (7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 8 SO, 1 BB), the Twins look to Carl Pavano to start the ball rolling toward some degree of consistency in the starting rotation.

Some additional notes of interest:

  • Delmon Young is on fire, finally. He's on a 6 game hitting streak, batting .333 (8 for 24) with 6 runs, 2 HR and 4 RBI since August 4th. Delmon is driving the ball with authority, and at least over the past three games, he's given us a glimpse of that long awaited power stroke. However, he is 2 for 23 (.087) for his career against Gil Meche, so we could see a Span-Gomez-Cuddyer configuration in the outfield.
  • Michael Cuddyer has destroyed Meche over his career, going 7 for 13 (.538) with a HR and 3 RBI. Let's hope his success continues.

Starting Pitchers


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Carl Pavano 1-0 1 1 0 0 0 0 7.0 5 0 0 0 0 5 0.00 .71

With one start as a member of the Minnesota Twins under his belt, Carl Pavano looks like the real deal. While his season totals (5.09 ERA, 155 hits allowed in 132.2 IP), Carl's peripherals tell a different story, as his FIP (4.18) is much lower than his ERA. The hits allowed appear to be driven by a high .326 BABIP, resulting in approximately an extra 10 hits allowed over the season. In addition to the hits, Pavano's HR/FB (11.9%) and 65.9% strand rate are also below career averages. However, this afternoon's start could be a problem for Pavano. As good as he has been against Detroit so far in 2009, he has been hit hard by the Royals to the tune of an 8.64 ERA in 3 starts this season.


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Gil Meche 4-9 19 19 1 1 0 0 108.0 113 62 54 11 49 87 4.50 1.50

This afternoon's start will be the first for Gil Meche since returning from the DL due to a back injury. Meche entered the 2009 season as the Royals #2 starter, behind Zack Greinke and ahead of last night's starter, Brian Bannister. Reports indicate that Meche will be limited to between 90 and 100 pitches today, so look for the Twins hitters to be a little more patient than usual in an attempt to knock Meche out early and get to the Royals' AL-worst bullpen (5.16 ERA) to do some damage in the 5th inning and beyond.

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Twins lineup

1. Span – CF
2. O-Cab – SS
3. Mauer – DH
4. Docmore – 1B
5. Kubs – LF
6. Cuddles – RF
7. Credo – 3B
8. Reddawg – C
9. Funto – 2B

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett

by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Has

Casilla been claimed on waivers or what?

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think yesterday's "misprint" was insulting enough

but not playing again…ouch.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would he be insulted?

Seems reasonable that you have to bat better than .172/.266/.219 in order to “expect” to play. These guys are pros…

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funto

Is that a more fun version of LNP?

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 13, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pavano day :)

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF

Why is Gomez not playing?

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Gardy hates you :(

sorry

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor fetch9

but why is Go Go not playing?

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

he really should be played more often. :\

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

GetAway Day...

Mauer→DH
Kubel→LF
Outfield→Crowded…

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Numbers

Mauer is DH so Kubel needs to grab a glove and Span is our leadoff hitter and Cuddyer kills Meche so no room for Go-Go or Delmon.

by CCTwinsFan on Aug 13, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mauer is the DH

so Kubel in LF, Cuddyer crushes Meche, and we don’t want to sit Span.

by Adam Peterson on Aug 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im an idiot

I didn’t see that Delmon wasn’t in there either.

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's go boys!

Remember you guys Do Not suck and you are playing the ROYALS

Win Twins…

my productivity is already sinking fast

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

productivity is overrated anyway

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had heard this last weekend

that Pavano had been pushed back a day and was starting against Cleve-Land. No?

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by FoulJack on Aug 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope.

apparently he told Gardy he wanted to start today.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gameday is up...

Both lineups have been posted. I think Pavano’s start is official.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD.

I did not want his second start for us to be against Cleve-Land!

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by FoulJack on Aug 13, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomez will pinch run and be defensive replacement for Kubel again

I’m almost certain that will happen at some point in the game. That’s actually good managing by Gardy, give him a little credit.

by DJL44 on Aug 13, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

Assuming Kubel gets on base later in the game…

by Adam Peterson on Aug 13, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he gets out, they just skip the pinch-run part...

Depending on when Kubel is due up next, they’ll bring in Gomez in the 7th/8th/9th. There might be a judgement call between Kubes bat and Gomez’ glove if Kubes is due to bat in the 9th, but if Kubes bats in the 7th, its an easy sub.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game is on TV?

Screw it, I’m skipping my last day of work.

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

just hope he has no plans to go back.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friend of mine bailed on his last day...

Then he forgot he had to go back to pick up his check. :-)

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha oops!

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

too bad I live at home in the summer and my parents would kill me

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

Maybe I will go to work

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

it's only the first inning.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

wayyy better than Tuesday

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, go to work,

and do what Caluofmn and I are doing…very little.

by montanatwinsfan on Aug 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

except I have no internet there

we have a radio, but I’m not sure I want to subject myself to that

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouchie

right in the weak spot

poor ump

by Hjorvarthr on Aug 13, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I mailed a link of that article to my mom...

Because my mom makes tuna casserole and all…

She didn’t get it. She said she’s been to the dome and didn’t notice the smell. :-)

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha does your mom know what The Onion is??

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually she does...

Even explaining it to her, she still seemed a bit perplexed.

I guess you just don’t make jokes about her tuna casserole. :-)

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that's just his normal face. :\

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. -Leo Durocher

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

how did DeJesus

triple to shallow center?

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

it was shallow

until it rolled to the deep part of the Dome

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and where was Span

on all this?

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Span doesnt

like Meche:

2-13 career

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

O-Cab loves

Meche:

10-28, 1 2B, 1 HR, 7 RBI

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morneau with a weak dribbler up 3rd for an out.

 This guy stinks at 1st. He’s nowhere near as good as Mauer!

by montanatwinsfan on Aug 13, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

what do you think his trade value is?

I bet we’d get less for him than Delmon Young.

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

true,

but the two of ’em together in a package deal could get us a good RH RP.

by montanatwinsfan on Aug 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we had traded

Puckett after the 91 season, we would be a winning team right now.

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer has even

less trade value than Delmon…whats up with a weak popup to second? That is not acceptable.

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twins career vs Meche

Span: 2-13
O-Cab: 10-28, 1 2B, 1 HR, 7 RBI
Mauer: 5-17, 1 HR, 6 RBI
Morneau: 10-33, 2 2B, 2 HR, 8 RBI
Kubs: 5-24, 3 2B, 1 RBI
Cuddyer: 7-13, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI
Crede: 3-18, 2 2B
Redmond: 1-6
Funto: 5-24, 2 2B, 1 RBI

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

so far

we are seeing another Liriano performance (minus Ks)…first inning run, then buckle up.

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

alright...

I spoke to soon. KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

lets just skip Funto….

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep seeing Fungo...

Maybe that’s what Nick’s problem is… he’s using the wrong bat.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that very well could

be…still doesnt make sense though for when he hit that homer, so long ago, in jumping bean Texas.

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon was a can't miss prospect at one point

Bust? Or is there a chance he’ll get healthy and start hitting.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

a definate bust

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by BCTwins on Aug 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

no effing way

the guy picked before him is a bust

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pavano does look a little testy out there

He kinda looks like he would be a jerk if you met him on the street.

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless,

when you met him on the street you had a small dime bag and a 6-pack of Bud Light.

by montanatwinsfan on Aug 13, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

sadly,

my wife is from New York City. She just doesn’t get the tuna casserole thing and wont eat it when I get nostalgic for home and make myself up a family sized batch.

next time I should try some couscous

by montanatwinsfan on Aug 13, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey montana

work starting to look good to you?

I’ve begun to respond to emails again… so sad

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

I’m going into work

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ill probably throw a kid against the wall. You know, the usual.

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I didn’t know you were a teacher.

Wha? What did I say??? :)

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually I work at a daycare.

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

makes me want to commit a murder spree at least once a day

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm

Nick Punto with a double.

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

sad

but not as sad as being down 3 runs to the ROYALS!

I’m seeing another bad day for TC Bear again…

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

death by t-shirt gun was a bad way to go for TC

but losing the game and the series at home against the ROYALS???

it will have to be worse… maybe death by Dome Dog?

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

fans streaming through the concourse

“how dare you smile, you bear!”

“you think this is funny? see my kid is crying b/c the Twins suck so bad!”

“get him!”

all that would be left is tuffs of fur…

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is embarrassing to be getting our asses kicked by the Royals. The last time they won a series against an American League team was the first week of May. If the playoffs weren’t out of the picture before, they will be by weekends end.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is this dude in the booth

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

no way

you’re kidding

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did a video feature before the game on him. Something with the DQ Day.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

I forgot that was today. Good excuse to get some ice cream.

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... giving up a big inning stinks...

But the offense doesn’t even appear to be clawing its way back either. The occasional run in these situations just to show that they are still alive would be nice.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see Gardy just start ripping the team’s play. Maybe that’ll get them fired up. They ask for a player, get Cabrera (who has done a great job), and then they don’t play well themselves.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

stupid work

talk to you guys later, hopefully my exit is our good luck charm

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

damn I’m good

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by fetch9 on Aug 13, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed...

Joe Mauer is good.

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

boo Cuddyer

he is the AntiClutch to Mauer’s Baby Jesus

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 13, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounded like he gave it a ride, at least

I’m just listening on the radio, but there was a definite “Oooh!” from the crowd on Cuddyer’s hit.

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's good

I’m only on gameday, so I couldn’t tell how well he hit that

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 13, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pavano

Looks stiff. Just watching him walk looks painful

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Reliever can't throw strikes...

I like when the other team does that… :-)

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess they noticed too...

Gone after six balls and no strikes…

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well

maybe someone worse will come in.

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 on, no outs

SOMETHING must be scored here.

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Punto

How worthless can you be. For ##$@#$ sakes. Get the bunt down. what a worthless player

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Intentional Out...

We could just have him take three practice swings in the batters box and be done with it.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto

is a worthless player. Twice this week he has failed to get a bunt down. Then he pouts his way to the dugout.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

QFT

I used to be a big Punto backer because of his hustle, etc… Of course, at one time he could put down a bunt.

by redheadzeb on Aug 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

At least I wasn’t a hater like many Twins fans have been for a while. I can’t take it anymore. I would rather have Luis Rodriquez back. I am sick of his defense being an excuse for him even having a job. His defense is not as good as most people think.

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Point

I bet Dougie would get the bunt down in a big situation like that.

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt

or better yet a single… or even better…

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never publicly bashed Punto.

But now, when he can’t hardly hit .200, can’t get a bunt down, and doesn’t play all that spectacular defense, I’m sick of it. The Twins are paying him $4 million this year and next, and they could get so many better players for that money.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 million

he should buy 4 million DQ blizzards today b/c he ddoesn’t deserve one penny of that money

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

his defense this year hasn't even been that good

I could defend him last year, when he was hitting a lot better and playing a much better defense. But this year he isn’t really doing anything right…

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

His UZR this season at shortstop is only 0.8.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't get over Punto

Why does he play. I bet gardy just patted him on the ass in the dugout “nice try”

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Problem is that Casilla's been worse...

Gotta be someone in Rochester or New Britain who can play…

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see Casilla.

He gives you a better chance than Punto.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not this year...

Casilla’s been brutal. Absolutely brutal

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But I have more of his clutch hits on memory than any from Punto (have there been any from Punto?).

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selective memory...

Casilla’s clutch stats are awful. Just brutal. Punto beat Casilla for the 2B job fair and square.

Punto’s just been slightly less worse for longer.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

some agrument

that really doesn’t make me feel good about the Twins…

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point...

The Twins may as well be looking in old Britain… Jesse, wanna play second base?

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody knows.

He continues to find his way in the lineup when he can barely hit .200 and can’t get a single bunt down.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes LNP is Gardy's secret love child

Gardy was attracted to the hustle and grittiness of LNP’s mother. She was such a gamer…

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 13, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa!

pretty sure that was dirty

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow....wow.

Seriously? Bases loaded!!!

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomez helping out with the bullpen

so now he can be the emergency emergency emergency catcher

by Hjorvarthr on Aug 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

gold.

Favorite Comedians: Mike Birbiglia, Doug Benson, Daniel Tosh, Delmon Young in Left Field.

by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bad beginning

But a good ending for a Pavano

Recovered nicely to keep them in the game

by Hjorvarthr on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

do you think
Blackie was paying attention?
Perkins was paying attentions?

who’s our pitchers again?

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets take the lead Justin!

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by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Bremer gives Punto a pass

And why not. I love how he stated Span’s walk basically made Punto’s failed bunt a non issue.

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHA!

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I don’t like. He always gets a pass because of something.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t you think Punto would have taken some bunting practice after Sunday’s failure?

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

you would think

but no matter how he fails Gardy is on the top step giving him the Atta Boy ass slap (trademark pending)

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would think

With the way he’s hitting. He may as well bunt the entire BP

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow..

That was a great call. The ball beat him by a mile, but the ump got it right.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

cool, thanks.

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Slide

Mauer continues his miracles

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Clutch hit by Cuddyer?

Don’t hold your breathe. Look for some pitches in the dirt.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

come on Cuddy!

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Bottom of the order next. This are looking gloomy. The Tigers lead and we’ll be back to five back.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame

The Red Sox. Christ, they have JJ Redick in the outfield for them today.

I don’t even recognize the Red Sox anymore.

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. We’re so much worse than that, but I’ll take having a chance. I’m not sure they’re going to do it though.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah if we were in the AL East,

there would be a lot of pressure to have been sellers at the break and we dont have a lot to sell other than maybe Nathan and/or Cuddyer.

It would be sad.

by montanatwinsfan on Aug 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer

Proves almost every game why he should not be traded ever.

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s having a solid year in the field and at the plate (hitting above his career average). It just seems like he strikes out too much in clutch situations and more so on pitches in the dirt.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he gets any better

it might be the best time to trade him

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice throw, Cuddles!

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey statheads, a question

Does the UZR or any other defensive stat take into consideration throwing? I can imagine how a stat can be created to judge the range of a fielder, but how do you judge throwing? Seems like Cuddy’s defensive value would be helped by a way to statistically judge his ability to throw runners out/ keep runners from even trying to advance in the first place.

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

HERE COMES YOGI!

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the UZR takes into consideration throwing, but I thought I read not for outfielders.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Crede sucks - end of story.

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Batting.

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto=Suck

Crede at least has power.

by .mnqwerd on Aug 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

A 3 run homer doesn’t make up for a .237 average.

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by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The .237 average argument doesn’t work. If you were expecting much more when he was signed, you were dreaming. His career average is .250.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's about average at the plate...

Weak contact, good discipline… still mediocre OBP, but got some pop. In all, his OPS+ tends to hover around 100…

Solid glove with average bat at 3B has value. He’s worth keeping around until Valencia is ready.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Twins didn't sign for avg

they signed him for his power. It would be nice if he were at .250 but asking for any more than that and you’re playing fantasy baseball

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say he sucks. He has 15 HR and 44 RBI this season in 80 games. Plus he has the best UZR among all 3B in baseball.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I miss Mike Lamb.

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomez

Is seriously 11 years old, it’s so awesome.

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Good AB, Harris!

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt it.

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is John Gordon on vacation?

Is it just Black Jack and Dazzle Man in the TRN booth today? Gordo’s not sick or anything, is he?

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm also wondering this

Say what you want about Gordo, but he’s about a bazillion times the play-by-play man that Gladden is.

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Positives

We have the 3 guys we want up in the bot 9

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

uh oh...

Jesse Crain is coming on. White flag?

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

They should have used him last night and Guerrier today.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes way too much sense.

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by FoulJack on Aug 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seems like daily.

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell is this?

Didn’t we use our two best relievers yesterday in a 6 run game? And now we have a HIGH leverage 1-run situation and we go to the Crainwreck?

by ajmargarine on Aug 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

We are 1-46 when trailing after 8 innings..

says the Dazzel Man.

That is a SUCK stat.

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by FoulJack on Aug 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder who has the best record and what that is...

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess is the Yankees have the best

they seem to have a lot of late game come back victories, at least recently.

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Cabrera have a hit today?

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

just tuned in a little while ago.

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-4

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oy... Kubel

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Defensive subs are key.

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking, “Why isn’t Gomez in”. But Kubel could bat next inning and his bat could be a key to a comeback.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

If they take out Kubel, that puts Gomez in the five hole next inning, in a potential clutch spot.

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kubel just made the mistake that Cuddyer did back in Oakland. Do NOT dive for the ball in a one-run game. Play it on a bounce and allow the single.

by Twins Territory on Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is worse?

Kubel or Delmon in LF?

Kubel’s look way more sad than Delmon’s F ups.

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Kubel Defense = bad triple at a bad time.

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by FoulJack on Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

They can't put Go-go in.

He’s busy warming up pitchers in the bullpen today because Redmond and Mauer are both in the game.

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

They should give two thirds of that triple to Kubel

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

clear single, clear two base error.

by ajmargarine on Aug 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crain

IMPRESSIVE.

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by y2jayjk on Aug 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Swell inning for Crainwreck.

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by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there hope for Crain?

Can he rebound next year?

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll rebound this year, my friend.

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

a little too late

to matter, I’m afraid.

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Kubel owes Crain dinner

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Bullet Crain?

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by Dr. Yogi on Aug 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

UCraine?

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 out...

I was hoping the baby jesus could walk off on water

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha!

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

(sigh)

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that sucked.

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by BeefMaster on Aug 13, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

What the f*&%

My poor heart cannot take much more of this season. Off to work, maybe the screaming kids will calm my nerves.

by fischean on Aug 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

remember it wasn't their fault

the Twins would have won if one of them played instead of LNP

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK!

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

How the hell are we supposed to make the damn playoffs if we can't beat the friggin' Royals!?

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, thanks! =)

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not our year

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by cmathewson on Aug 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

If I was at that game I'd be booing

those last few innings were pretty sad

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by thewild_viking_twins on Aug 13, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you just compare me to Chicago fans?

I’m insulted

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by thewild_viking_twins on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was rhetorical

I knew you would never do that.

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can the Twins

find an injury on Redmond so they can call up Morales
bench Punto… forever

I can’t think of anything else

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

We actually have to pay Punto for another year of this nonsense!

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by cmathewson on Aug 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

close eyes, pinch nose, and swallow

at this point I don’t see how anyone can argue that playing him is better than having him ride the bench.
He failed 2 bunts, 2! His defense is not winning any web gems either.
Personally I’d rather see Harris out there so they have potentially a better hitter. If not Harris, then someone else but at this point hasn’t LNP played himself out of the job?

by caluofmn on Aug 13, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next year we're no longer paying Mike Lamb

So, next year those wasted dollars can go to Punto while he’s the one playing for the Buffalo Bisons.

by DavidRF on Aug 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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