Liriano gets bombed, Twins lose 8-5
The hardest thing for Twins fans to take about the team's recent woes may not be all the losing, though the team did drop its twelfth out of sixteen games to the Rangers. The manner of the losses, however, is pretty galling; it seems like Minnesota has spent the entirety of August behind 6-1, or 7-3, or 9-1. Every once in awhile, the sun breaks through the clouds and the team wins 11-0, but otherwise August has been a steady parade of relief pitchers and crooked numbers on the scoreboard.
We will not speak much of Francisco Liriano in the game recap, because the title of this story and his line (2 IP, 7 H, 7ER, 2 BB, HBP) tell you all you need to know. You can already picture his start - wild as hell, falling off the mound, throwing sliders that nearly ended up in dugouts, while a steady diet of Ranger hitters waited for the inevitable fastball down the center of the plate before pounding the ball.
Justin Morneau left the game with "dizziness," according to the team's broadcasters, and one could be forgiven for chalking this up to battle fatigue.
The Twins fell behind 7-2 after two innings, and though they later strung together a few hits and runs to get within 7-5, they could come no closer. Despite the much-improved Texas pitching staff, mid-summer games in Arlington always seem to follow the same script: it's hotter than the inside of a pottery kiln at game time, both starters get bombed early, and the game turns into the Dallas Invitational Batting Practice and Relief Pitching Competition. Rangers starter Tommy Hunter got the win, tossing 5.2 innings but throwing enormous numbers of pitches to get through that short stint, walking three and working from behind against seemingly every hitter.
On the bright side, of course, there is Joe Mauer. There will always be a ray of sunshine on Mauer's spot in the box score, it seems. Mauer homered in the first, giving the Twins a short, hopeful 1-0 lead. He doubled and scored in the sixth, touching off the Minnesota rally that moved them within two. He singled and - improbably - stole second base in the seventh, but died there. Those eight bases he gained were nearly as many as his teammates put together, who managed three singles, a double, and six walks.
Ultimately, though, there's too much for Mauer and his teammates to fight against every night. No team can win, starting from six or seven runs behind every night. And with the team's starting pitchers struggling to get all the way to the fourth inning, the team is headed nowhere but down.
UPDATE: Liriano will head to the disabled list with a "tired arm," which I suppose is code for any number of things, including "inability to control emotions" and 'inability of manager to keep patience with failures for longer than two innings at a time."
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Frankie DL'd with "arm tired", according to Gardy.
….Oooook.
I truly believe that Joe Mauer is one of the consistent bright spots (read: only) this year. It’s a shame that one player seems to be the spotlight, but if the rest of ‘em would stop sucking (mostly pitchers), it wouldn’t be this way.
Again, love the Twins, won’t stop watching until the end, etc etc.
by fischean on Aug 17, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arm tired???
WTF!
Maybe we can all go on the DL b/c our brain’s tired watching the crap they are calling Twins baseball?
by caluofmn on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
when Blackburn will go on DL..I hope these pitchers are talking to a sports shrink..
by justintime on Aug 18, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is everybody complaining about Frankie's tired arm?
Of course he has a tired arm! If you gave up 7ER in 2IP your arm would get tired too! You think it’s easy to do that kind of damage in 2 innings?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 18, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good point
we suck, I mean do we expect the Franchise to do this kind of damage in just one inning?
He’s the Franchise not god…he is still the Franchise isn’t he?
by caluofmn on Aug 18, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankie
The pitcher formerly known as franchise told reporters he couldn’t feel his arm the last several starts it was so tired. He doesn’t think it hurts at all, it’s just tired. Remember, this might make a little sense as he was on pace for a full season 2 years after not touching a baseball. Not to mention his mechanics are so bogus it’s probably tiring him out more.
The starting pitching’s implosion has been really magnificant over the last month. Blackburn is a total disaster, Liriano’s been terrible and is now hurt, Perkins has been terrible and is on the DL, Slowey got hurt, and Swarzak has come down to earth. I hope Manship gets the spot into the rotation, but this franchise is basically totally out of arms ready for the call at this point.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
by AdamOnFirst on Aug 18, 2009 4:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his mechanics really do appear to be a mess
he’s rounding off his delivery, winds up facing third base (or worse) about 40% of the time, winds up throwing the slider in the dirt more often than he throws it for strikes …. blah.
by BD57 on Aug 18, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of the blame has to fall on Andy
When mechanics appear to be a good part of the problem for both Blackburn and Liriano, plus Swarzak trying to throw the ball through bats. I understand these are young pitchers, they’re going to have ups and downs, but consistently failing to even get to the third inning? Geez.
by Adam Peterson on Aug 18, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw this one coming
Funny how the arm has been tired, but it only causes him to be DL’ed after a bad start instead of after a good start like the one he had the last time against the Royals.
by Sheldon on Aug 18, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can they throw Kyle Gibson out there in September?
Or will he not be better by then?
by MNPundit on Aug 18, 2009 6:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Humber?
7-7, 5.28 in 21 games (20 starts) for the Red Wings. Honestly, the management of this team haven’t got a clue. Here’s a golden opportunity to promote someone who has been pitching well down in the minors like Anthony Slama or Rob Delaney, but instead they just bring up another deadbeat. Hopeless.
by Twins Limey on Aug 18, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can understand this
The way the starters have been pitching, the Twins need to bring up a minor league starter to serve as a long man out of the bullpen (or take Liriano’s spot in the rotation, although I’d guess Duensing is ahead of Humber in line there). That doesn’t leave a whole lot of options – Humber, Dickey, and who else?
I think it’s more a sign of how bad the starting pitching has been than how bad management has been (although they obviously didn’t see this coming and perhaps should have).
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
by BeefMaster on Aug 18, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that about what we've been doing?
Duensing, Manship, Keppel, etc? OK, Keppel wasn’t a starter in the minors, but we’ve had a 6th and 7th starter in the major league roster much of the year…
by Adam Peterson on Aug 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is RA still with the Twins?
Could be the return of Dickey Time!
I think Gardy should tell anyone who starts, “you are pitching a minimum of 5 innings or 100 pitches regardless of the score”
Why waste the pen at this point. Let the starters take their lumps and maybe they will start to take their mechanics more seriously?
Of course with how bad the starters have been, 100 pitches might not get them to the 5th.
by caluofmn on Aug 18, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RA is still with the Twins
In the minors, he has thrown 10.1 innings giving up 20 hits/14 runs/1 HR/4 BB/3 SO for a grand total ERA of 12.19.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Aug 18, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...Dickey-time is not going well.
That’s depressing.
by fischean on Aug 18, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gardy left Pavano in when he allowed 5 runs
why not the rest of them? Granted, Pavano lost that game, but he regained control and didn’t allow more runs to score. At this point in the season, everyone knows the pitching’s a joke, might as well let them show what they can do-or what they can’t. Makes planning next year’s rotation a little easier. :)
by fischean on Aug 18, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Pavano's runs
were in the third inning after two solid, and basically because of a 3-run homer. With Liriano and Swarzak, it was hit after hit after hit…
by Adam Peterson on Aug 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mechanics are important
If they don’t have good mechanics they’re exposing themselves to injury risk. I don’t think that’s worth it. If they are locating okay but just don’t have all their pitches working then let them take their lumps.
by DJL44 on Aug 18, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also true
and I don’t want to see anyone get hurt but they need to left out there (within reason) to show what they have and not expose the bullpen to injury as well.
Afterall the starters don’t need to worry b/c when they get tired, they can just take themselves out of the rotation with an ‘injury’
by caluofmn on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mechanics?/ Liriano of old
Yes, it is very unlikely liriano will ever go 12-3 with a 2.16 ERA again… or any time soon, but what about the liriano from the end of 2008?
He had an ERA under 4.00 in 14 starts. He had a few more BB/9 than now, but he was decent. In AAA that year, he had a stretch of atleast 4 starts (right before being called up) where he lasted 7 or more innings and had close to one K per inning. Plus he didn’t walk an insane amount.
So first of all… what changed over the offseason?
And also… why not send him down? The twins have been a .500 team all season and considering his 5-12 record, no one could be worse…
Sending him down would lower stress and he could have worked on mechanics. Too late in the season to send him down now.
I suppose if he’s out of options, though, then that could be why they’re keeping him, since someone would pick him up.
by JMP on Aug 18, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He can't stay out of his own head
I’m not much of pitching expert but i think he just gets frustrated with himself to fast. You remember 2 starts ago when he gave up that first inning bomb. but his team then got him 6 big runs in the bottome half of that inning and he settled down and just pitched. In his last start I really think he let the umpire get to him. He was defintly getting squeezed on some of his pitches, and i think it really affected him. I think he has the stuff to pitch in the majors but not the mentality.
by mr.right on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like LaTroy Hawkins
I think Liriano would make a nasty setup reliever. That’s not a change you make lightly though.
by DJL44 on Aug 19, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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