Hear me out Mr. Joe Mauer, Please Don't hit .400
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 19, 2009 9:04 PM EDT
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Also if you can add to that, please, come in 2nd in the AL MVP race.
You know, because you can like accomplish in-humane kind of tasks...so why not routinely finish the year batting only .330 and knowing you're 2nd in MVP vote tally while making it look easy and effortless.... IS that too much to ask? - LoL
This is no joke, I am by all means completely serious.
If Joe Mauer hits .400 and won the AL MVP this year in 2009 for a LOSING ball-club
then what in the world Universe would it take to pay him?
seriously?
I fear if he accomplished these feats this year right now..... We'd be watching him play for the Boston Red-Sox from about 2011 to 2019.....
UGH!
(I know this is not at all what Joe will try or want to do, but I wish he would)
thoughts???
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You sound like the fan of a AAA team...
“I don’t want any of my favorite players to do well because then they’ll get called up to the big club.”
Boo hoo… might as well be a diehard fans of Nick Punto, Jason Tyner and Ron Coomer because you’ll never have to worry about any other team wanting guys like them.
Sheesh… live in the moment for once! It gets annoying that we can’t enjoy when our own players do well. Do we need a new thread pre-lamenting the loss of Mauer every time he gets a few hits?
Ummm...no.
I want Joe to win the batting title. I want to see him win MVP. I want to see him hit .400. Does history being made mean nothing anymore?
Honestly, how he does isn’t going to change what he’s already worth. Everyone knows what he’s capable of; him succeeding even more this season isn’t going to nudge the FO or other teams either way.
good point fischean
Well, regardless of what he does for the rest of this year I think he will win AL MVP.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 19, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not positive he will win
he should, for sure, but I’m not sure he will. From what I’ve heard, Teixeira seems to have been a name that’s been thrown around for MVP. I think I speak for most people when I say “that is absolutely ridiculous!”.
I doubt he wins MVP if the Twins don't make the playoffs
I’ve heard Tex being the front runner as well. I think it will go to the best player on the best team and that means going to the post season.
Of course playing in MN hurts Mauer as well and the voters can say “he’s winning a 3rd batting title, we don’t have to give him the MVP too”
He’s the MVP of the Twins by far but unless the Twins are playing in October it is going to be hard to convince people he is the MVP of the American league.
Wonderful analogy to show why the people voting for Teixeira are drooling morons
Let’s say you have two wallets, one with a $50 bill and ten $1 bills and one with ten $20 bills, and you’re asked to pick the most valuable bill. You pick the $50, even though there is more total money in the wallet full of $20s.
I can’t take credit for this – I believe I saw it as a comment on Joe Posnanski’s blog (Joe has become the chief supporter of Mauer’s cause, posting daily “Mauer Pauer” updates).
By the way, I don’t buy that playing in Minnesota is the problem – I think Morneau’s MVP is a pretty easy counter to that. Twins haven’t had a hard time getting recognition from awards voters (see also: Santana’s Cy Youngs plus lots of Gold Gloves and a few ROYs). The problem is that the BBWAA members tend to be pretty set in their ways, with a tendency to disregard any statistical analysis that has occurred since 1870.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Maybe
I think the crappiness of the 2009 Twins is far more of a problem for Mauer’s MVP case than the location of the 2009 Twins. There hasn’t been much apparent New York bias in MVP awards – before they got A-Rod (who was so good that he won an MVP award while on a losing team), the last Yank to win an MVP was Mattingly, and no Met has ever been NL MVP.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
I for one,
agree with Mr. Slowey’s sentiments. I hope Joe does well, but another batting title, an MVP, and a history (modern era) making stat would seem likely to drive up the bottom line a little … … at least for anyone not named Joe Mauer (if there is one guy in professional sports who might not care much about the bottom line it seems like it would be Mr. Mauer).
by montanatwinsfan on Aug 19, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Whether Joe .400 or gets MVP, Batting Champ or not
He’s still going to cost the Pohlads a lot more than he’s getting now. They’ll just have to suck it up or face the wrath of enraged Twins fans.
So go for it Joe!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 20, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
* HITS .400
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 20, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Something to tell our grandkids
“I saw Joe Mauer come in second! But, the good news is, we signed him!”
No, I will never forget 1977, and I tell my son about it and will tell my grandchildren about it, God willing. Unfortunately, it means Rod was traded because Calvin couldn’t afford him anymore. But I’ll always have 1977.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
and Paris?
kidding but I agree with you on your point.
If he is anywhere near .400 in the last half of September, the networks should break in on games to show his ABs.
They did for Bonds (even though most didn’t believe it was just natural ability), they did it for Manny, they should do it for Mauer. Seeing a player that could bat .400 is something special.
Brian Williams can start off his broadcasts
with “And for your latest Joe Mauer updates, he went 3-4 in today’s game against the Sox…” :)
.400 or not
he may be playing for those other clubs….that is not what is going to push him over the edge to play somewhere else.
by guinness junky on Aug 20, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
I'm not
I’m not worried about this anymore. The Twins have literally no choice whatsoever but to sign Mauer. The fans would fly off the handle even if there weren’t a new stadium, and with a taxpayer funded stadium just being finished, the Twins would seriously risk a literal boycott. It would be one of the biggest alienations of a fanbase in modern sports history. It would almost certainly drive all of our other stars away immediately (can you see Morneau sticking around if they dump Mauer?) It would be a financial catastrophe for the team. If they want to save the money, they can just cut from the advertising budget, and just put up billboards everywhere that say “we resigned Joe Mauer.”
It’s bad for the Twins’ bottom line that he’s having the season he is right at this moment, but this team has absolutely no choice whatsoever to resign Joe Mauer, and quite frankly, they absolutely have the 20-25 million it will take. They have it RIGHT NOW, because they are way under where they could be.
No player in the entire league belongs with their team more than Joe Mauer belongs with the Twins.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
I wish I had your optimism,
but I just can’t see the ownership seriously working this out, and we’re already seeing Mauer’s frustration with the ownership’s reluctance to make moves come to the surface. Trying to sell us on washed up retreads as the solution year in and year out will wear quality competitors like Mauer and Mourneau out. I’m enjoying Mauer while he’s here and resigned to eventually seing him in Boston or New York. When the string runs out I hope they can manage to pull a better trade than they did for Santana and Garza/Bartlett. I really do hope that you’ve got a better bead on this than I do, but I’m thinking we might have to settle in for a Pirates/Royals stretch of futility pretty soon.
not only that,
but Mauer has been classy enough that even if when he signs with Boston or NY I will swallow my dislike for that team and cheer for hometown Joe, just like I have been doing for Kevin Garnett.
And for all of you idiots out there that say the Twins fans will boycott, the team will go under, pitchforks, mobs…yada, yada, yada, …grow up.
by montanatwinsfan on Aug 23, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
montana...
do you honestly believe that people won’t boycott the team (I’m not saying forever here…). Joe is the hometown hero. If the Twins don’t re-sign him, I can imagine there would be backlash from that. Torches and pitchforks are obviously not being said seriously, but there will be many angry Twins fans. To allow probably the best player you’ll ever see play for the Twins just leave because you won’t pony up the money is franchise suicide. I don’t think that’s an immature mindset, either.
I honestly believe that boycotting the team,
would be more of an act of selfishness or self-indulgence than any kind of meaningful statement.
by montanatwinsfan on Aug 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be a statement saying that the fans want to see their team do well
and they are tired of the organization not picking up/keeping talented players to ensure big wins. I don’t know, I probably wouldn’t boycott the Twins, but I would think it a pretty crappy move and definitely follow more closely the team that Joe went to.
I don’t fully disagree with your point about the selfishness aspect, but I can understand the mindset that would initiate a boycott of sorts.
You can't see your team do well if you boycott it
I went through this after the Carew trade. In sooth, it wasn’t just that trade. Hisle, Bostock, Campbell and Gollz all left for free agency around this time. But I left fandom for almost 10 years. They were the emptiest years of my life. I don’t know how I will react in the unlikely event they don’t sign Mauer. But I know I won’t leave fandom again.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
That is a good point
A summer without Twins baseball would be a horrible summer.
I guess we’ll just have to hold on to hope that Mauer is re-signed.
Anyway, .400 is in a galaxy far, far away
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by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Aug 20, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
If the Pohlads dont sign him
I will NEVER watch the Twins again or go to a game. Joe Mauer is the Most Important player for a single team in all of Professional sports. I will have a new favorite team if the Pohlads dont sign him (whoever decides to sign Mauer is my new favorite team). Esscientaly its SUICIDE to not resign Mauer I dont care if he wants the Key to the city, wants to be our senator, wants a day named after him, or even wants them to rebuild the new stadium just because he thinks itd be funny to rebuild a brand new stadium. They need to lock him up forever. the Pohlads will never live it down! They’ll have everyone from 7 yr old little girls to 85 yr old grandpas outside their house boycotting. They wont sell any merchandise, tickets,and no one will tune in to see them. Why waste your time following a team who has no appreciation for how great the fans are. I was mad when they let my boi Torii go but I will be IRATE if Mauer goes. Just thought I’d put my input in. IMO I think they will resign him though.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Aug 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
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