Postseason Roster
Yeah, it's premature. But it's also important. What are your thoughts on the Twins' potential playoff roster?
Here are the rules, as far as I can tell:- Players listed on the postseason roster have to be on either the active roster or disabled list (or some equivalent list, like bereavement) on August 31
- Players on the postseason roster who are unavailable for the playoffs can be replaced with someone who was in the organization on August 31
- In the event of a replacement, a pitcher must replace a pitcher, and a position player must replace a position player
To me, this strongly indicates that the Twins have another roster move coming before the end of the month - there's no need for a 12-man pitching staff in the postseason. Pitching rotations are trimmed to, at most, four, and the added bench flexibility is important in the postseason, where there is more pressure to maximize pinch hitter leverage and the potential to play by National League rules. My guess is that a pitcher with options (Gabino, maybe?) is "sent down" on or near August 31st to make room for Jose Morales, although said pitcher would probably be recalled as soon as possible in September.
The Twins should have plenty of room to experiment with the bullpen this September - there are a bunch of pitchers currently on the disabled list. Any or all of them could be added to the playoff roster, basically allowing for an open September competition for the last few spots on the pitching staff.
With that, here is the Twins' current active roster and disabled list - the players in boldface are ones I'd consider locks for the postseason roster:
IF: Cabrera, Casilla, Crede, Harris, Morneau, Punto
OF: Cuddyer, Gomez, Kubel, Span, Young
C: Mauer, Redmond
SP: Baker, Blackburn, Pavano, Duensing, Gabino
RP: Nathan, Mijares, Guerrier, Crain, Humber, Manship, Keppel
DL: Bonser, Liriano, Neshek, Perkins, Slowey
As I mentioned before, I expect Morales to be called up in time to be added to the postseason roster. Even though the playoffs are pretty spread out, which should allow Mauer to get plenty of rest, it would be good to at least have the option available to let him DH. For that matter, Morales would provide a competent switch-hitting bat off the bench, which is always a useful thing to have.
Astute observers will notice that I have listed just six pitchers as "locks" for eleven spots. I honestly don't know that there are any more than that. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of the other six current pitchers left off the playoff roster, and Gabino is the only one I'd be very surprised to see on it. My guess is that Liriano will be listed (if he comes back, I'd assume they'll play him), but at this point, the others are almost like picking out of a hat. Here's my best guess:
Baker, Blackburn, Pavano, Nathan, Mijares, Guerrier, Duensing, Crain, Neshek, Liriano, Slowey
OUT: Boof, because he might come off the DL in September, and you don't want to run the risk that he comes back and sucks and you're stuck with him. Keppel, Manship, Gabino, and Humber are out because no one outside their immediate families trusts them with less than a 30-run lead. Perkins, partly because I forgot about him when making the list and partly because of the same reason as Boof - you don't want to get stuck with him if he comes back crappy.
IN: Liriano, because if they pull him off the DL, it's likely because they see something good in his rehab, and he'd be on the lock list if he were healthy, terrible though he's been. Crain, partly out of loyalty, partly because he's actually been decent the last month. Duensing, because he's the best of what's left.
The way I see it, September will be an open competition for two or three (depending on Liriano) back-of-the-bullpen spots between the guys on the "OUT" list and whoever gets a September call-up. May the best men win, both for the sake of the making the postseason, and for the postseason itself.
NOTE: I did not address the brewing Joe Crede situation, because even if he's placed on the DL, he'll almost certainly still be put on the postseason roster, with either Valencia or Buscher taking his spot if he's out for the playoffs.
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no
men in black are locks.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
by 33MorneauMVP on Aug 26, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Normally the Twins use four starters in the playoffs
Also, I’d be shocked if Crede plays again this year.
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by cmathewson on Aug 26, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's some DL list...
That’s like half the pitching staff.
by DavidRF on Aug 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Danny Valencia
I’m hoping that he is on the “post season roster” given the injury to Crede…
I’m thinking Crede’s back may have him out indefinitely, so if Crede hits the DL and Valencia is a September call up guy, then does that mean Valencia can play in the post season if we make it there?
by Phenom507 on Aug 26, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
See my note at the bottom (along with the second rule). It’s probably a safe assumption that Crede will be listed on the roster, and if he’s on the DL when the playoffs start, he can be replaced by a September call-up (likely either Buscher or Valencia).
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
by BeefMaster on Aug 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Penny released by the Red Sox
Pick him up. He’s better than what we got. Or pick somebody up.
I can’t believe we haven’t grabbed another starter from somewhere. There’s got to be a bunch of guys in the final year of their contract on non-playoff teams throughout the league who are available for a bag of balls as long as we pick up their remaining contract.
by ajmargarine on Aug 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penny
I don’t see a reason why they woudn’t go for it.
by WITwinsfan on Aug 27, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read a theory somewhere...
That he likely agreed to not sign with an AL team still in competition. I think I read it on Jayson Stark on ESPN maybe. His thinking was that Boston would have refused his release if there was a chance he would come back and bite them. Anyway, I’m not sure if an agreement of that sort would extend to the Twins, and it’s obviously just a theory, but I thought it was interesting.
by dctwin on Aug 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a terrible move
That ERA is hideous, but his FIP is at 4.48 – he’s been killed by BABIP. He might be another good Pavano-esque buy-low guy.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
by BeefMaster on Aug 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look for Dickey to be back up before
September. Hold your nose, but the guy is pitching lights out at Rochester. Maybe he’s found his knuckler?
by Old Twins Cap on Aug 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say lights out...
…although last night was very good. But in the previous two starts he gave up 18 hits in 14 innings combined. Now he spread them out real nice and didn’t allow a lot of runs, but that is a lot of hits and they are against AAA hitters.
by roger13 on Aug 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
One start does not make me forget two months of horrible pitching.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Aug 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dickey is this generation's Jim Bouton
I don’t think he’s as good of a storyteller though.
by DJL44 on Aug 27, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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