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By the narrowest of margins, Bert again fails to make the Hall of Fame. Congratulations to Andre Dawson, but at this point I feel sick to my stomach.

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They said that there were 5 blank ballots

this is fucking sickening…and Bert missed the Hall of Fame by 5 votes……….God i’m ready to strangle somebody

by TonyO on Jan 6, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Those people

absolutely need to lose their ballots.

by ckb on Jan 6, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, even if it's not Bert...passing up Alomar?

Not saying that Dawson doesn’t deserve it, but really?

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver

by fischean on Jan 6, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Un F-ing believable

I cannot believe that Alomar did not get in. He should have been a no-brain 1st ballot hall of fame guy. No question.

by rencito on Jan 6, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Insult to injury with that.

.8%? Are you kidding me?

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver

by fischean on Jan 6, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

RECOUNT!!!!!

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 6, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Well, he HAS to get in next year you'd think...

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Jan 6, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

+1

but so will Alomar

and possibly Larkin

remember Mark McGuire and Andres Gallaragga and a few others (Jack Morris) are on the ballot next year also.

I'd rather have Nick Punto playing 3B and Felipe Lopez playing 2B

than Punto playing 2B and Kouzy, Crede, DeRosa or Glaus playing 3B.

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 6, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Alomar and Blyleven

are both above 70%. I don’t believe anyone has ever finished with 70+% and not been voted in the following year. At least I think I heard that yesterday. So I think they will both reach 75% next year.

Larkin was in the 50% range, so I think it will take at least a couple years for the voters to come his way.

by Adam Peterson on Jan 7, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

ugh

"So [Kouzmanoff]’s going to make decent monkey, but he’d be affordable." - Jesse

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Jan 6, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Congratulations BBWAA

You picked the 8th best player on the ballot and passed over 4 no brainers (Blyleven, Alomar, Larkin, Raines) to get there.

by DJL44 on Jan 6, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

This is the problem I have with this process.

These people’s voting is just insane. Wtf?

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver

by fischean on Jan 6, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

and I thought the

voting for the All-star game was bad!

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett

by BCTwins on Jan 6, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The last few years have been just surreal

Dawson, Rice and Sutter instead of Blyleven, Raines and Larkin? It’s like the BBWAA is making the veteran’s committee picks and leaving the best guys for the VC.

by DJL44 on Jan 6, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If Kaat isn't in, I don't think Blyleven should be

But I don’t really agree with the Dawson decision either. Or some others in the past few years. Bert will be in next year.

BTW, who is going to be added to the ballot next year?

by rencito on Jan 6, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

I just looked it up

Next year’s ballot will add:

Wilson Alvarez, Carlos Baerga, Jeff Bagwell, Bret Boone, Kevin Brown, Cal Eldred, John Franco, Juan Gonzalez, Marquis Grissom, Bobby Higginson, Charles Johnson, Al Leiter, Tino Martinez, Raul Mondesi, Jose Offerman, John Olerud, Rafael Palmeiro, Paul Quantrill, Steve Reed, Kirk Rueter, Rey Sanchez, Benito Santiago, B.J. Surhoff, Ugueth Urbina, Ismael Valdez, Larry Walker, and Dan Wilson

I think the one who gets the most consideration of these guys is Juan Gonzalez. Palmeiro would have gotten a lot of votes if not for the incident. In any event, it shouldn’t be a problem for Alomar or Blyleven next year.

by rencito on Jan 6, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd go with Bagwell before Gonzalez

In fact, he may very well be the only guy on my ballot out of next year’s newcomers. Palmeiro would be second, I’d have to think long and hard about him, given the positive drug test.

by Adam Peterson on Jan 6, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right

Bagwell will get strong consideration as well.

by rencito on Jan 6, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My ballot next year

Blyleven, Larkin, Bagwell, Raines, Alomar, Trammell, Kevin Brown, Mark McGwire, Larry Walker, Edgar Martinez

I’d probably vote for Palmeiro but he’s not one of the 10 best players eligible.

by DJL44 on Jan 6, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Juan Gonzalez

Juan Gonzalez is a terrible pick, shouldn’t even be in the discussion. He couldn’t play defense and his career was way too short.

by DJL44 on Jan 6, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far

He played 17 seasons (although only about 11 would you consider full). He was a two time MVP and finished in the top 5 two other times and 6 silver sluggers. Career OPS over .900 (about 100 points more than Dawson) with about as many HR as Dawson.

I actually think he might be more deserving than Dawson (although I wouldn’t vote for either).

by rencito on Jan 6, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Supreme juicer

Everywhere he went, he got other guys to juice.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 6, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

Wasn’t Gonzalez all over the Mitchell Report and Canseco’s books?

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Jan 6, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He looked like it, too.

Dude was a freak of scientific nature.

by Jesse on Jan 7, 2010 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Larry Walker and Jefff Bagwell

I'd rather have Nick Punto playing 3B and Felipe Lopez playing 2B

than Punto playing 2B and Kouzy, Crede, DeRosa or Glaus playing 3B.

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 6, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Blyleven was pretty clearly better than Kaat (and John)

and is much more comparble to his contemporaries who are already in, like Jenkins and Carleton.

by Eric in Madison on Jan 6, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Bert on XM Radio right now

“I’d like to strangle five writers out there.”
“2011 for Blyleven”

He also expressed surprise that Alomar didn’t make it on the first ballot.

by Adam Peterson on Jan 6, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

During his interview with MLBN

he really didn’t seem too down about it. I’m sure he’ll be in next year, but at this point, I’d think he’d be frustrated beyond belief.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver

by fischean on Jan 6, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB ALL TIME STRIKEOUT LEADERS

Nolan Ryan, 5714
Randy Johnson, 4875
Roger Clemens, 4672
Steve Carlton, 4136
Bery Blyleven, 3701
Tom Seaver, 3640
Don Sutton, 3574
Gaylord Perry, 3534
Walter Johnson, 3508
Greg Maddux, 3371

-Flip

by Flip27 on Jan 6, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

2011

He will be elected next year.

I have somewhat of problem with a guy though who feels he deserves to be in an exclusive club. I personally think he belongs there, but for him to cry about the process because he isnt included is a bit arrogant.

Wonder how many expletives were uttered during his interview?

by backtocali on Jan 6, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

This

is absolutely the most outrageous action by the Hall. To deprive bert blyleven one of the most deserving HOF canidates in years is ludacris. I mean i strongly believe and am almost positive he will get the call next year i’d stil be pissed if i was him, sure its honor to get in, but year after year he keeps getting closer and closer to the point where it is now only 5 votes, crazy. Its like wtf give a guy a fucking break

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by Baby_K on Jan 6, 2010 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

Wait a few years

More outrageous actions are sure to come.

by DJL44 on Jan 6, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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