Mauer-mas Is Here! No, It's Not!
In this corner: Mark Rosen and WCCO are reporting that the Twins have reached a preliminary agreement with Joe Mauer on a 10-year contract extension.
In that corner: Buster Olney of the Worldwide Leader is pretty much calling Mark an ignorant slut. Quote: "Multiple sources now saying that the report on a preliminary agreement for Mauer is not accurate." SI's Jon Heyman also says it's not really done and not ten years, so I think we're all now cheering even harder for Rosen to be right, just so that Heyman is wrong.
Who to believe? Rosie did break the Brett Favre signing in August. ESPN employs Chris Mortensen. Advantage: 'CCO. Still: keep the champagne on ice. Will update as the situation warrants.
UPDATE: Joe C. sez no deal, too. At the moment, not looking good for Rosie.
UPDATE #2: If it'll make you feel better, here's video of Joe getting out-charisma-ed by a first-grader.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Fouljack reports multiple facebook contacts have status updates stating the deal is done!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I always loved that one.
Nice...
I like that Buster was so emphatic about it that he shot it down in three separate tweets.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
'cco has that damn "double-u c...c...oh!" jingle
ESPN has…too many transgressions to list. I’ma go with the local source on this one.
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I seriously hope
we’re just waiting for the Twins to find enough champagne and confetti to fit the occassion
I want to hear Mauer is signed, but I do trust Buster Olney...
I’m going with…
Throwing up my anti acids. And passing out on my girlfriend.
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
How bizarre!
I was talking about that movie with my roommate as I was logging on to check the Twins blogs for Mauer and Hudson news. The specific scene was the morning after when Spud was trying to sneak the sheets past his girlfriend’s family as they ate breakfast.
I suspect both things are true from what we've heard
There’s probably been too much smoke for there not to be fire, and my guess is that they do have a “preliminary” agreement—meaning they have years/dollars agreement. That doesn’t mean all the i’s are dotted, etc.
And Bill Smith is too close to say anything until its actually done.
by Eric in Madison on Feb 1, 2010 4:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Let's see ...
On the one hand we have the word of a local guy who knows Smith personally. On the other hand, we have a national guy with no real relationship with Smith what so ever (Olney also shot down the Farve scoop when Rosen beat him to that).
I’m guessing Rosen has some kind of gentleman’s agreement that guarantees him the scoop over everybody else. Maybe Rosen has agreed to pick up the beer tab on bowling night or something like that.
I like to think that Smith and the Twins are giving the scoop to a local media source that covers the team everyday versus a national source that’s only interested in the Twins when it somehow also involves the Yankees (in this case, if Mauer signs the extension, the Yankees won’t be able to overpay him next year).
I’m going to believe Rosen on this one.
It will get done
chillax everyone.
I also would highly suggest not going on Twitter haha.
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It'll be fun
to see all the Yankee fans on mlb.com finally shut up about having Mauer in pinstripes.
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Feb 1, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions
Maybe
The Twins could work out a deal where they clone Mauer and trade him to the Yankees. Of course, they’d have to genetically engineer the clone so he’s nowhere near as ravishingly handsome as the original.
by JTW on Feb 1, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
but would the clone reply to fan mail? That’s something I think only a non clone would have the heart to do.
I always loved that one.
Either way
It’s impossible for the clone to have less of a personality than Mauer. haha.
by JTW on Feb 1, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I have a Florida Gators baseball hat ...
I bought it because it had a big FU on the forehead.
lock your away your daughters
wives and mothers…although I think in a head to head taste test more moms would pick Cuddyer over Mauer…
you know what will shut them up real good
is when the F-bomb is dropped and murders their lineup in games 1 and 4 of the ALCS this year en route to us crushing whatever feeble resistance the NL puts up in the WS
formerly known in these parts as adamb
I do feel the same; this team is the deepest that the Twins have had in decades.
Which also means we’re more likely to fall below expectations.
Pick your poison.
I feel like a meth user with all the clicking and facial ticking.
This is exciting stuff, people!
I always loved that one.
There is entirely too much love in here.
We need to start another “Complain about Joe Mauer’s character and abilities” thread.
I always loved that one.
Uh...he is lazy!
And he barely showed up in the postseason. What a selfish jerk.
On the flip side: AHHHHHHHHHH!!! GET THIS DONE LIKE TODAY PLEASE! This would completely make this week the best week ever!
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
Also: 10 years?!
No way. That is awesome.
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
Along these lines, can someone please dig up the last person who said Mauer was worse than AJ
So we can verbally abuse them.
On second thought, you could probably find someone saying that right now over on a Strib comments thread.
neither is as good as Henry Blanco
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Joe Schmidt
for KSTP Ch. 5 says its not true also. His biggest reason, though, is spendning time at a new Mauer Ford dealership today with Joe’s dad and having not heard anything from them.
Ahhh, journalism.
I always loved that one.
You haven't listened to KFAN
They’ve been shouting Mauer CHEVROLET for weeks now.
oh, Ive heard.
Commons ad is the worst.
I always loved that one.
by FoulJack on Feb 1, 2010 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh, Ive heard.
Commons ad is the worst.
I always loved that one.
by FoulJack on Feb 1, 2010 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Common will never hit 5 consecutive home runs.
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
Common has hit 5 grand slams!
He is the Radio Romeo..The Dream of The everyday house wife..His Material is Fanta..its Amaz….Its Grea…Its Goo…Its Decent..
Can someone
Please fill me in on this whole “5 consecutive home runs” thing? lol. You know Im kinda new around here. Only been here for 7 months
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's from one of the game threads a while back
Someone accidentally triple posted a comment: “Let’s hit 5 consecutive home runs!”
Then everyone else replied to his comments with more “Let’s hit 5 consecutive home runs!” to make fun of him
Then it just kind of stayed around
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Feb 1, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Poor benhertz :(
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
LMAO
I just read through the comments on the home runs. That was pretty funny!
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Lol thats funny
Haha ok thanks for filling me in :)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
And now you're an integral part of one of Twinkie Town's in-jokes!
I think that’s a pretty good claim to fame right there!
AHHH!
On the one hand, YAAAAY! It’s obviously close. On the other, I really really want something confirmed. Going to be very hard to sleep tonight otherwise.
Finally, that video is awesome. I love how boring Joe is. I can’t help it. It’s charming in a totally uninteresting kind of way.
"I live to drive Chevy's (Chevies? Chevys?)"
Seems a bit equivalent to “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y" target="new">I like turtles". Just sayin’.
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
Link Fail
So just because you got Tollesons autograph you think you’re better than us and you wanna make us have to: Open a new tab, Copy that youtube url, paste said youtube url in url search box. Thanks
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
women and their computers
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Lol, these
Newfangled contraptions she yells out as she tries to turn it on ;)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, when I previewed it, it worked just fine!
Lame…Here is the working link. Sigh.
Don’t be jealous that I got Tolleson’s autograph, I’ll share pictures of it.
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
HAHAHA I love that kid!
Yes! Share all photos please.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Joe C. also saying no to the CCO report
Guess Rosen jumped the gun. I assume it will get done sooner rather than later, but I wouldn’t expect to hear anything today. Hopefully this week.
I hope Olney
is right on Orlando Hudson! He is right on this one (probably), so I really hope he is right on the Twins – Hudson rumor.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
I can believe the Hudson report much easier
I can buy into his agent leaking info to Olney about the Twins in an effort to get other teams to up their offers.
Loved this from Joe C's report...
“Manager Ron Gardenhire has joked that the Twins just need to decide whether to give the catcher Minneapolis or St. Paul.”
St. Paul isn't the Twins' to give away
Joe’s owned it since high school.
Ha.
I live in St. Cloud. I don’t think its going to be a deal breaker.
by Steven Ellingson on Feb 2, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I live here too
I would be pumped if St. Cloud was owned by Joe. haha
by Span's the Man!!! on Feb 2, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Once again
Once again, Rosie has been claiming this deal is near based on some unnamed “inside source” for literally 6 weeks now. I like Rosie, but I wouldn’t trust him on this one. If he nails this deal, he’s the best reporter in the history of sports, nobosy else has even SNIFFED the info he’s had for a month and a half.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
But isn't this the sort of thing where the Twins/Shapiro are going to pick someone to get the scoop?
He could be that guy.
Not likely
If that were the case, he wouldn’t have others contradicting him (it sounds like Olney’s sources are in the Twins org), and they wouldn’t leak it this long before it was announced.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Like I said above ...
There could very well be some kind of gentleman’s agreement that guarantees the scoop to Rosen. Smith tells Rosen one thing and something else less promising to everybody else.
Rosie backtracking a little bit
Says the agreement is “in principle” and “details still need to be ironed out”
"In principle"?
…Wow.
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
Joe C
Joe C said that was possible too. 10 year deal… wow.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
hopefully the twins management ticks him off to the point that he heads to free agency and signs a discounted contract with the white sox.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 1, 2010 6:02 PM EST reply actions
not likely
oh and by the way, thanks for Thome!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
lol
Burn! And thanks for taking such great care of AJ.
yes
White Sox fans across the Nation will soon be booing Thome as he rounds the bases after hitting a 427 foot bomb off Mark Buerhle in his first AB vs the White Sox in a Twins uniform….
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
Good riddance
on Thomer. How many times did the white sox need to manufacture a run only to have a slow aging slugger up to bat, that would refuse to move a runner over and more times than not, strike out? I know guys, he hits bombs and those are better than moving runners over, but when you got too many big ugly(s) you live and die on the HR. Not that you guys mind with the M&M brothers (because they hit for high avg.). I still don’t understand why the Twins decided to take at-bats away from Kubel and give them to Thome?
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 1, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
i’ll take a guy with a wOBA of around .370 and a 15% walk rate anytime, thank you very much.
by JTW on Feb 1, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Thome is a true 3 outcome guy.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 1, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
You're welcome, but, I didn't give you Thome.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 1, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Last year in the ALDS
we had Brendan Harris & Jose Morales DHi-ng against the Yankees….that’s a utility infielder and a back-up catcher September call-up. Kubel also plays a little outfield, so that’s what he was doing when those guys were DH-ing.
Look for Thome to get called to DH this year when Kubel plays the outfield (against some RHPs) and to pinch hit in the 7th, 8th, & 9th in key spots for weak hitters. He’ll be taking PA’s away from Delmon Young, not as much Kubel. He’d also see DH time in case of injury to either of our starting corner OF’s or Morneau, which could be up to, what, 20 or 30 games?
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Feb 1, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Kubel is a terrible outfielder.
which is why he should DH.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 1, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Delmon Young is a terrible outfielder
Which is why it doesn’t matter.
by Twins4Life on Feb 1, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like what helped you
guys win in the past is now in the past. Good luck up there in the arctic circle. thank god we only play 9 there. 3 BALKY backs in the middle of that line-up in 20 degree weather. I’ll take my chances being a sox fan.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 1, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Good, good.
Enjoy 3rd place again this year. :)
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
They'll be lucky to get third place
I’m picking them for fourth. Mark Teahan? Seriously, they not only gave the Royals players for him, they signed him to a contract extension.
That would be like the Twins trading a good left-handed pitcher to a team for a utility infielder who slides head first into first base, and then signing him to a contract extension at double his value.
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by cmathewson on Feb 1, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They're probably going to allow 500 runs
and score 400
but with that
pitching staff? ;)
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
I realize that
its just the way White Sox fans say it, you think that their rotation will only allow something around 98 runs.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
in case you
don’t know Where Triples Go to Die the
quote boxis our sarcastic font…just thought I would clue you in on that.
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sweet, thanks
I’m a “long time listener, first time caller.”
Well, in that case...
it’s not actually the quote box, it’s a @ before and after what you’re saying.
I am quite helpful. See?
RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July
10 year contract extension?
I hope the Twins do not become a team of Joe Mauer and a bunch of minimum salaried players.
If the Twins ran on a $35 million salary, that might be the case.
Luckily, you have nothing to fear here.
minimum salary players
I suppose Baker, Morneau, and Nathan fit the minimum salary players? Oh, and eventually Span, Slowey, and Hardy as well.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
He said
Do not become, meaning that the Twins could give Mauer all their money and then not be able to resign any of the other players ie Morneau, Nathan, Baker, Span, Slowey, and hardy.
Read the statement clearer
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 1, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Percy. That was my line of thinking. I would like to retain Mauer, but more importantly I would like the Twins to compete for the WS every year.
well
according to all accounts, the salary will be much lower than any of us have projected…and we were shooting low on salary! Look for a 10 year, 175-80 million contract.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
I haven't heard any figures thrown out yet.
Where did you hear any salary projections. I’d be more than happy with 18 million over 10 years. I don’t think anyone would have been surprised by a 7 year 25 million which is the same money overall or an 8 year/22 million which is roughly the same.
We’ll wait and see.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
That's kind of what I've been thinking
The last thing I heard was the two sides were discussing two different potential a shorter 5-7 year deal fairly close to market rate and a 10 year deal with a decent sized discount.
With the salary increase from Target Field, I'm not as worried about this
If it was something like $30 mm per year then I’d be a little concerned.
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Feb 1, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Come on, admit it, you're just never going to be happy
Let’s say he gets 18 million/year for 10 years. I’ll give you your 18/year and you can go to free agency and get 18 million worth of players a year for a decade, and I’ll take 10 years of Joe Mauer, thank you very much.
Just go through this year’s free agent class and see if you could have gotten a Mauer’s worth of value for 18 or 20 million now (let alone after 10 more years of salary inflation).
It has to be more than that
10 years $180M is roughly a $75M discount. That’s like getting 3 free years of Mauer.
If the Twins are offering 10/180 ...
Then it’s a sure thing.
Anything else would be pure speculation with zero guarantees.
10 years/$200 million, some of the money deferred to the later years to give the Twins more payroll flexibility in '11 and '12
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defered...
like Medicaid supplement?
I think no matter what my jaw is going to drop at the amount of money Mauer is going to get.
After someone posted that $30M rumor
$20M will seem like we got by cheap.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Feb 2, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
if 90 million is the new standard for the twins
they could probably afford to have the same sort of rosters they’ve had for the past decade + Joe Mauer. I’d take the 2002 Twins + Joe Mauer in a second.
Guzman
alright, but Rivas and Mientchievitz or whatever it is?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
They were probably the best Twins team since '91.
And prime Joe Mauer would have made it certain.
by ckb on Feb 1, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
put Mientwhatever on the bench
as a bench bat/defensive replacement. Replace him with Morneau, put Span in LF, Guzman at 2B, and Hardy at SS. Good team right there. Oh, and the 2008 Liriano and 2005 Santana. Wow…now that is a team!!! You made me drool…
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Believe me
I have thought about what could have been if the Twins had unlimited money and perfect foresight.
That team would probably be too expensive though.
by ckb on Feb 1, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
What's that?
What’s that, we could make a SUPER AMAZING TEAM out of both basically completely separate rosters from a franchise that won multiple division titles each in a decade?
Heck, when you think about that, it’s pretty amazing. The Twins not only won 5 division titles last decade, but the first three and the last two were basically with two completely different rosters.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
That is kinda nuts
I hadn’t really thought about the fact that the rosters are almost completely different.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
The only
The only guy who connects the two generations is Cuddyer (ok, maybe Crain) who wasn’t a full time piece until late in that generation. 2006 was sort of the pivot year where the two generations sort of mixed. Not really a surprise that was the best team of the decade as it contained a lot of the best from the start of the decade and some of the best young guys from the current crop.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Olney doesn't contradict Rosen!
I’m not sure where all of this talk of conflicting reports is coming from… Rosen never stated that a deal was done (finalized)… he only stated that a preliminary agreement had been reached. Olney was refuting the idea that there was a done deal. They are talking about two different things here, so I don’t necessarily feel that either is wrong at this point. My gut actually says that Rosen is correct about a deal in principle, but just not a signed and sealed contract quite yet.
haha
Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?
by natetheskate on Feb 1, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Rosen even said
that there was still a lot of things to be worked out and cautioned that many deals fall apart during this stage.
In other words, it’s nearly done, but don’t get too excited – just in case.
OK
I won't get too excited about it It’s only a deal to keep the greatest player in Twins history—a home town hero and some kind of saint—in a Twins uniform for the rest of his career. No big deal.
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by cmathewson on Feb 2, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Update #3 (well not that much of an update)
Source: Talk of big Mauer deal ‘erroneous’
From Fox sports: The Twins have not officially confirmed or denied a report by WCCO-TV in Minneapolis that the team has agreed to a 10-year contract extension with star catcher Joe Mauer.
However, a source with direct knowledge of the talks dismissed the WCCO-TV report to FOXSports.com’s Ken Rosenthal early Monday evening, saying it was “totally erroneous … nothing to it at all.”
The sides have been talking and do have mutual interest in reaching a long-term deal, raising the likelihood of an agreement. With the team expanding its payroll and opening a new ballpark this year, the signing of Mauer, a local icon, is a high priority.
Is it April 1st already?
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Feb 2, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
It's all sounding like
the Farve signing all over again.
Rosen says yes. Everyone else says no. Farve signs with the Vikings. Rosen is right. Everyone else is wrong.
Gotta give Rosen credit...
He’s not backing off his story, even in the face of everybody telling him he’s wrong.
You gotta hand it to Rosen
He got a lot of clicks on that page by being first
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