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Minor League Report...February 20, 2010

In a week we all were hopeful we would hear about Joe Mauer signing a new contract, the only news related to Mauer was about a trip back to his Minnesota cabin with J.J. Hardy and his beard.

Although it wasn't the signing we were hoping for, the Twins did sign minor league free agent Charlton Jimerson.  Jimerson is a career minor league outfielder with a handful of major league at bats.  He can play all three outfield positions, has some power and doesn't hit for much of an average. 

With no other player transaction news and winter ball complete, let's take a look at several of the key questions facing the Twins this spring.  In doing so, I will keep an eye on how the answers to those questions will affect the minor league rosters and Twins depth at the higher levels.

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I believe that Bill Smith will continue to massage the roster throughout the spring.  The Twins 40-man roster is full.  Will he move a couple excess players from positions of strength for prospects who don't have to be placed on the roster at this time? 

One of the roster decisions Smith and Ron Gardenhire will be making is who will be the backup catcher?  With Jose Morales out until late in spring training, indications are he won't break camp with the Twins.  Thus the Twins will decide between veteran minor leaguer Drew Butera, who is light hitting defensive specialist, and top prospect Wilson Ramos.  Who makes the 25-man roster remains to be seen.  

Catcher is a position however, that has only one top prospect in the entire organization.  Danny Rams had a great month in Elizabethton last summer, however, Eric from Madison has taught me that we need to see production at a higher level before anointing any player putting up big numbers in the Appy League.  So we need to see a lot more from Rams who continued to hit for power at Beloit, however, his average dropped to .229.  If the Twins do complete a trade or two this spring, it would be prudent that one of the players coming back is a good prospect playing at AA or High-A.

It doesn't appear that both Alexi Casilla and Matt Tolbert will make the opening day roster.  Casilla is out of options, thus, he either needs to be on the roster or traded as he would certainly be claimed if placed on waivers.  Tolbert has options remaining which may cause him to again begin the season in Rochester unless he clearly beats out Casilla.  In that case, look for the Twins to move Casilla who has spurts of brilliance. 

The Twins have an abundance of good middle infielders in the higher levels of the organization, however, are any real candidates to be a starting second baseman for a title contender in 2011?  The answer is probably no.  Is Trevor Plouffe a future Twins starting shortstop, especially now that J. J. Hardy is on the team?  Will Plouffe see playing time at second or third?  Will Pouffe, who will turn 24 in June, finally blossom into the prospect the Twins hoped he was when taken in the first round in 2004?  Nick Punto is an excellent utility infielder who can start at second base in 2010 should Hudson be injured.  But at $5,000,000, Punto is not the answer in 2011 when other raises will begin to put pressure on their budget.  Unless they intend to re-sign Orlando Hudson, second base is a position that the Twins should have an interest in acquiring a top prospect playing in AA or higher.

It appears that third base will be split between Brendan Harris and Punto while Danny Valencia returns to Rochester to fine tune his game.  Valencia got some valuable experience this winter when his Mayaguez team made it all the way to the Caribbean Series, finishing one game behind the champion Dominican Republic team.  Valencia reported to Puerto Rico in early December, then proceded to play nearly every day while hitting only .224/.288/.343.  He didn't hit better in the playoffs, however, his bat was the key to several wins in the championship series.  Is Valencia the Twins future third baseman?  It is likely we will learn the answer to this question this season.  If he isn't, next winter will again be spent searching for a third baseman unless Brendan Harris takes a huge step forward this season.

The Twins starting outfield is again four deep, with Delman Young, Denard Span, Michael Cuddyer and designated hitter, Jason Kubel.  For at least 2010, the presence of Jim Thome means that the Twins lineup doesn't take a major hit when Kubel is playing in the field.  A problem however, is that this outfield isn't particularly strong defensively.  Other than Span, there isn't much speed and none of the others can play centerfield.  I expect we will see Nick Punto, Matt Tolbert and Alexi Casilla all see some time in centerfield in spring training as they develop a short-term option should one be needed during a game or for a few days.

Several of the top prospects in the organization are centerfielders, led by Ben Revere, Aaron Hicks, Angel Morales and Joe Benson.  The problem is that there is a gap between Span and Revere, who will begin his season in New Britain.  This problem will disappear in 2011 when Revere should be ready to contribute to the Twins.  Jason Pridie was lost on waivers and the Twins apparantly lack confidence in Dustin Martin, who wasn't invited to spring training.  Thus, there is a huge opportunity for someone to make a statement this spring that they are the answer should the need arise. 

The Twins have begun to address this concern by signing former Twin Jacque Jones and minor league veteran Charlton Jimerson.  They will have an opportunity to impress, but is either the answer should Span be lost for more than a few days?  Others, including Martin and Brandon Roberts will also have the opportunity to be noticed, but Rene Tosoni may be the only prospect you would want playing centerfield on a team headed to the World Series.  But Tosoni also has limited experience in AA and really is better suited for a corner outfield spot.  With Revere and others a year or so away, I don't see the Twins having a centerfielder at the top of their wish list when completing a trade this spring.  Should lightening strike Span during the season, look for the Twins to be active in the trade market at that time for a short term fix for the balance of the season.

A strength of this year's team should be their starting rotation.  The Twins will have two young right handers with a handful of major league starts, Jeff Manship and Anthony Swarzak, who will be waiting in the wings in Rochester.  They also have three lefties, Francisco Liriano, Brian Duensing and Glen Perkins, all battling for the fifth starter spot.  Liriano may be the leader following a winter season in which many scouts reported he was approaching the Francisco of old.  Brian Duensing certainly earned a spot with his excellent pitching during the Twins playoff drive last season.  Glen Perkins has been very good at times over the past three seasons, however, appears to have burned some bridges last season and again in January.  One of the three will likely be the fifth starter.  What happens to the others will be one of the biggest stories of the spring?  Although one could go to the bullpen as a second lefty/long reliever, the bullpen already has seven strong candidates.  Unless he wins the fifth starting spot, Duensing will likely return to Rochester.  There appears to be some interest from other teams in Perkins, with several reports that they wanted to see him throw in spring training.  I believe Perkins is out of options.  Unless he really impresses both on and off the field, look for Perkins to be moved before the final roster is set.  Perkins is a young, quality starting pitcher who should return a very bright prospect(s). 

The Twins probably will begin the season with a twelve man pitching staff.  Unlike last season, the Twins have seven strong arms, Joe Nathan, Pat Neshek, Matt Guerrier, John Rauch, Jesse Crain, Jose Mijares and recently acquired, Clay Condrey.  The concerns with this group are: 1) there isn't a long reliever; 2) there is only one lefty; and 3) although everything we hear about Pat Neshek's arm is positive, he hasn't pitched an inning since May, 2008.  Will Neshek be close to the pitcher he was before his injury?  Will Duensing lose the fifth starting spot, yet pitch so well that he demands a spot on the roster?  With Anthony Slama, Rob Delaney, Jose Lugo and Alex Burnett all top prospects who are one step away, the Twins may be in position late in spring training to move a quality reliever for a prospect.

Perkins, Casilla, and one of the quality relievers all could be dealt before the end of next month.  The top needs I see include a quality AA or High-A catcher, a top AA or AAA second baseman, and possibly a solid AAA center fielder.  The next forty days should be exciting for all Twins fans as Bill Smith and company put the finishing touches on the 2010 Minnesota Twins!                 

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Crain

What do you think Crain would fetch in a trade? He seems like the least reliable option right now, and the pen needs room for Duensing/Liriano/Perkins, and soon Slama/Delaney. Would a team be attracted by his high velocity and overlook that he has no movement and is too easy to hit? Am I being too hard on him? I liked him when he was young but he just doesn’t seem like he can get it done anymore. His fastball is so straight.

by by jiminy on Feb 20, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

Crain was coming back from his own injury last year...

…and was better the last part of the season. If they decide to move a reliever, it will be dependant on a lot of things including what they will cost in 2011. Crain could be a candidate. Guerrier has been so very good for a couple years, but will be getting real expensive in another year. Will be interesting to see what they do, although it most likely will be nothing as there is almost always a problem with somebody’s arm in spring.

by roger13 on Feb 20, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Outfielders

I think your timeline might be a bit aggressive. I expect that Revere won’t get more than a cup of coffee with the Twins in 2011, and will have a chance to make the team in spring training 2012, maybe not until June/July. I think the next batch (Hicks, Morales, etc) are a full year behind that pace. All of these players would be possibilities if the team needed a backup, but in the interest of developing them through consistent playing time, without hurting the big league team, they will move one step at a time, a full year or more at each level.

I really hope that Martin and Roberts get chances to make the club, even if not until mid summer. They are going to have a lot of people chasing them from behind. If they are worth keeping around, then it is because they can play for the big league team, either long term, or as a replacement level player, who is cheap. These guys should already be approaching that level, so the question is whether there is much more development they can get in the minors, or whether they should be brought in for their speed and position flexibility. I’d prefer one of them to Jones or the new guy (though I’ll wait to see how he looks in ST PAs against MLB quality starters).

by snolls on Feb 20, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Revere is only a phonecall away at double-A.

If the Twins find they need an outfielder for whatever reason, and they aren’t encouraged by anyone at triple-A, Revere will get the nod.

by Jesse on Feb 20, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

A major injury to span = Revere being called up from AA.

by clutterheart on Feb 20, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't expect Revere to be with the team in spring, 2011...

…my point was that the problem of not having a backup for Span goes away, in that Revere should be ready to fill in if Span is out for any extended period in 2011. Expect Revere will start the season in AAA and will be ready to fill in if needed. If Span goes 160 games, I look for Revere to be a September callup at the latest.

by roger13 on Feb 20, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

got it

that makes more sense to me. I was just saying that I think he’s still a backup plan until 2012, when I’d expect he should start seeing a lot of MLB time.

by snolls on Feb 20, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair

I think that by the same logic, Martin and Roberts are only a call away. I do hope these guys get a chance to backup on the team sometime this year, as I think it is the best way to figure out their role in the organization.

by snolls on Feb 20, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

middle infielders

Roger, what good middle infielders are you thinking of? In my mind we have a lot of slightly below average utility players in AAA & AA.

by clutterheart on Feb 20, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

Good middle infielders...

…include Plouffe, Dinkelman, Singleton, De Los Santos and until recently Tolleson. They all will probably make it to the major leagues someday for someone if not the Twins. Will any of them be more than a utility player in the majors, maybe but none appear to be a sure thing. Dinkelman and Singleton are probably above average, considering that Dinkelman was an Eastern League All-Star and Singleton has been one of the top hitting middle infielders in the league at his last several stops. And the Twins obviously like De Los Santos more than either of them as they skipped over both and added De Los Santos to their 40-man roster.

To me a good middle infielder in AA or AAA doesn’t mean someone destined to be a big league starter. That type of player would be a top prospect and very good or a great minor leaguer.

by roger13 on Feb 20, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Perkins

I don’t have any hard information to back it up, but I was under the impression that Perkins has one more option year left, meaning that there isn’t an urgent need to trade him.

It would be great if someone could follow up.

by Eric B. B. on Feb 20, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

It doesn't appear so, but I also don't have hard information...

…He started the 2007 at Rochester, making 1 start before being called up. The rest of the season he was sent out to several teams, but all those were rehab assignments. By beginning the 2007 season in Rochester however, means that has to be Option 1.
…He again began 2008 in Rochester and pitched there until May. That would be Option 2.
…Then last August, they officially optioned him to Rochester rather than add him to the 25-man roster. This is the move that caused him to file a grievance. So that would be Option 3, thus, the move last year to keep him out of arbitration would have been his final option.

by roger13 on Feb 20, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he might have one option left.

That is, of course, if this is accurate. But again, what you say is correct as well, so I’m not entirely certain.

by Jesse on Feb 21, 2010 6:44 AM EST up reply actions  

According to Kelly Thesier...

…He has one option left. Third paragraph from the bottom of this story.

by Eric B. B. on Feb 22, 2010 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Option in 2007?

When was Perkins added to the 40 man roster? If it was when he was called up to the Twins in 2007, as opposed to before the season, wouldn’t that mean that he did not use an option in 2007? In other words, don’t you have to be sent to the minors AFTER being added to the 40-man to use an option?

by Pedro Munoz is fast on Feb 22, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Perkins was a Sept callup in 2006...

…thus, he was on the 40-man roster as of then at the latest. I also see what Kelly has written and expect she is correct. But then I question how it was not an option when he began the 2007 season in Rochester? Was he on an early season rehab assignment which didn’t count as an option. What may cause some to be wrong about his having an option is the whole thing from last September, but the Twins were very clear that he was optioned to Rochester which caused all the problems. If he has another option, he then could not have been optioned in 2007…when he started the season in Rochester. Go figure, eh? We will all know for certain a month from know I suspect.

by roger13 on Feb 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

MLBTR

For what it’s worth, MLB Trade Rumors does not list Glen Perkins on its comprehensive list of players who are out of options for 2010. La Velle is cited in the report.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/02/out-of-options-2010.html

by Pedro Munoz is fast on Feb 22, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Could use a proofreader

“Delman”, starting a sentence with “But”, “lightening”

I like the updates, they’d be better if you had someone proofread.

by DJL44 on Feb 20, 2010 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

Bullpen

If you have 7 guys to call on, do you really need a “long” reliever? A long reliever helps you take only 6 pitchers north but is never going to get enough work in a bullpen of 7.

by DJL44 on Feb 20, 2010 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

Mop-up

Nice to have that 12th pitcher who can pick up when a starter goes 2-3 innings and you need up to 5-6 innings of nothing baseball. (Brian Bass, anyone?) You don’t want to wear out your short relievers in bad games.

Of course, we don’t want to see the Twins have ANY abd games in 2010, right?!

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by rosterman on Feb 21, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Back up OF

So, what is your assumption? Is it reasonable to think that Casilla, Punto or Tolbert could be our back-up plan for CF, is Jimerson a legitimate option, or will the Twins be hurting without picking up another option?

And, you can start a sentence with a conjunction, DJL44 :)

by SD Twins Fan on Feb 20, 2010 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

It was more the doubling of the clause that threw me off

but Tosoni….. But Tosoni. It doesn’t parse well. I’m nitpicking but there were more errors than usual in this post.

I think you’ll see a lot of Tolbert in the outfield in Spring Training.

by DJL44 on Feb 20, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Punto in the OF as well.

He’ll probably be given first crack if they need a guy.

by Jesse on Feb 21, 2010 6:46 AM EST up reply actions  

SD...

…I think Casilla, Punto and Tolbert will serve as our “emergency back-up” in center. Span slides into a base and twists and ankle and one of them will move out to center for the balance of the game. Another option would be moving Cuddyer to center, which I believe Gardy did in one or two games last year. Really, right now the team doesn’t have a backup who is a legitimate centerfielders.

All of these options would be short-term. If Span goes on the DL, I see them either bringing up a centerfielder from the minors or making a trade. Right now we don’t have legitimate options in the minors other than Jones and Jimerson, which are marginal options at this time.

by roger13 on Feb 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

So....

Basically, if Span gets hurt, the Twins’ outfield gets scary bad…. I hope he doesn’t have any ongoing issues with the vestibular neuronitis. I can’t believe that baseball season is here once again! Go Twins!

And, thanks for the minor league updates, roger. I spend entirely too much time on reading about or watching the Twins, and its nice to get some cliff notes so I don’t fail out of school trying to keep up with the minors!

by SD Twins Fan on Feb 21, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The same would go if

Mornean or Mauer got hurt. There is no good replacement for them either, you take your chances and hope your stars don’t get hurt.

by b1 on Feb 22, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally Agree

Just seems like there were some OF back-up options for a decent price. I would still love to see Baldelli get invited to camp….

by SD Twins Fan on Feb 22, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Baldelli too

I’m of the camp that not having a CF back-up on the 25 man roster is okay. Span should play every day. Also, we don’t have another good lead off hitter, I love the way Span takes pitches and works the pitchers.

by b1 on Feb 22, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Cuddyer...

…did an excellent job as Morneau’s fill-in last Sept and during the playoffs. With Thome on board, we now don’t have a hole in the order should Kubel have to move out to right and Cuddy to first. If Mauer goes down, we have one of the better cathcing prospects in all of baseball knocking on the door. I am comfortable that we have good replacements for anyone other than Span.

by roger13 on Feb 23, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Defensive positions

The biggest dropoffs to the backup are at CF, SS and C. They can fill in at the corners and on the pitching staff without missing much.

by DJL44 on Feb 23, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

And if Ramos comes north...

C is not an issue. Antony said he could start for a lot of teams right now.

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by cmathewson on Feb 23, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Still a dropoff

I like Ramos but Mauer→Ramos is probably as big of a dropoff as Span→whoever. It’s not that Ramos is bad, Mauer is just that good.

by DJL44 on Feb 23, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You've got it

My point was that there is no good back-up for your stars or superstars and I think Span, Mauer and Morneau make this point. Span as a leadoff hitter can’t be replaced by anyone I see. DJL44’s point on Ramos replacing Mauer is right. Just because there’s a backup on the 40 man rosters there will still be a huge Drop-off. Same with Span or Morneau, rather we have a back-up or not.

by b1 on Feb 25, 2010 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Bigger dropoff from Hardy than Morneau

Morneau is replaced with Cuddyer, Kubel and Thome. Hardy gets replaced with Punto and Tolbert.

This isn’t unusual. Most teams don’t have a ton of depth at the skill positions.

by DJL44 on Feb 25, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

We'll see

I’ll give Hardy the benifit of doubt now. We’ll see if the bat comes back, if it does your right. But,Punto is one hell of a fielder.

by b1 on Feb 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuddyer did fine yes,but

we had Gomez to fill in the outfield not Kubel.

by b1 on Feb 23, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Cuddyer did fine because in those particular games, everything was hit to straight-away center

I shudder to think of him playing out there in a more typical game, where a lot of liners head into the gaps.

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by cmathewson on Feb 23, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

DJL44, I seriously hope you aren't serious about a second proofreader?

One never knows about comments, whether or not you are serious. If you are, yes, I usually proof each post several times. Unfortunately, this morning I blew it with Delmon’s first name.

As for technical mistakes, I don’t even know what you are talking about when you referred to “doubling of the clause.” Unfortunately some of use weren’t blessed with an expensive public education for which we all are overtaxed these days. Going to the same one room school with one teacher for eight grades doesn’t get you more than the basics. I do this report each week out of the enjoyment of following the kids in the Twins minor league system. I have never claimed to be a professional writer like some of the people here and elsewhere in the Twins community.

by roger13 on Feb 21, 2010 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

No worries, Roger.

It’s fine. And really, if anyone does have an issue with spelling and grammar, the buck stops with me.

by Jesse on Feb 21, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not a big deal

You might benefit from a 2nd set of eyes. I appreciate the articles.

Here’s what I meant about “doubling the clause”

“Others, including Martin and Brandon Roberts will also have the opportunity to be noticed, but Rene Tosoni may be the only prospect you would want playing centerfield on a team headed to the World Series. But Tosoni also has limited experience in AA and really is better suited for a corner outfield spot.”

I don’t usually comment on grammar, I think this is the first time. In this case though it was awkward to read and I had to go through the article slower to pick up your meaning.

If you use “but” once then using it again makes it appear that you’re contradicting yourself. You didn’t need the 2nd “But” especially since you used “also”.

by DJL44 on Feb 21, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Roger, I'm an English teacher

I haven’t spent one mili-second thinking about your use of the English language or the millions of spelling exceptions that apply.. I read your posts and I see my future as a baseball fan. Trust me, that doesn’t happen very often. Keep it up. It is appreciated.

by Old Twins Cap on Feb 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks Old Twins Cap..

..sometimes a burr under that saddle gets a little irritating. Probably shouldn’t have responded, but!

by roger13 on Feb 21, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 from an English major

I always enjoy your posts, Roger. I’ve never noticed any spelling or grammar problems, don’t worry about it. The content of your writing is what’s important, and that’s always been great.

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Feb 21, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Roger - your french is terrible

I have to say, from a reader’s perspective, you’re spelling and grammer is terrible. I mean, as french, this is completely unintelligible :)

DJL – I’m just kidding around, but I do think that you are being a bit harsh. The point was still understandable, and the typos didn’t make any of the meaning ambiguous. For free content, this is pretty impressive stuff. If it was a newspaper or magazine I was paying for, I might write a letter, but my only recourse is to take my eyes elsewhere, which in this case, wouldn’t be a good deal for me.

by snolls on Feb 22, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Not trying to come off as harsh

Trying to be constructive. By internet discourse standards I’m anything but harsh.

by DJL44 on Feb 22, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

by internet standards you weren’t being harsh, and I think it’s fine to say something like that. I’m just not sure you should expect any better in this circumstance. I’m usually typing this stuff out over a couple minutes at work, and regularly find that I made tremendously confusing mistakes – but it happens.

by snolls on Feb 23, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Roger

I’ve been a lurker for years, and I really appreciate all your great info and insight.

by Pedro Munoz is fast on Feb 22, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

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